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First off thanks to Illa for sending out three samples. If it weren't for him I would never have started using XF products, and now I can't get enough.





Let me start by saying I have never liked any pre-workout I have tried, so heading into this one I was less than optimistic about what would happen. Pre's normally upset my stomach or give me a huge rush than crash.


1st Impressions
Samples arrived in three separate ziploc bags. I've always wondered when USPS is gonna bust down mine or Illa's door, but so far so good.

Formula
Although XF opted to go proprietary, which I fully understand in today's age, looking at the label shows that there are some good dosages of the necessary ingredients for a pre-workout. XF has really pushed the "No Arginine" angle for awhile, so it brings something different to the table. 8/10-biggest knock being proprietary

Taste
Pre-workouts have always tasted like ass to me, and with the ArA and Hydro in Vengeance, I was expecting more of the same. Once again, XF did not disappoint in the taste department. It tastes like a weak Raspberry Lemonade Cytofuse for those that have tried it. There is a slight aftertaste, but nothing too bad. I wouldn't say this is something that I would crave everyday like some XF products, but would have no problem drinking before each workout. 9/10

Mixability
Little bit of "stuff" left on the bottom, but with the amount of ingredients in this formula, I expected worse. No complaint here. 9/10

1st Workout
My first workout was Shoulders. In all honesty, I wasn't good to myself over the weekend, and it showed during the day and when I finally went to workout. I was feeling real down. Vengeance started off real smooth, but then I started to notice a change. Music became much clearer and I was more in tune with it. My focus went up and I really felt a mind-muscle connection. The only other product to ever have this effect on me was Adrenalean. Not sure what ingredient or ingredients is doing this, but I like it. The more I got into my workout the more I wanted to keep going.

One weird thing I noticed was that my muscle the last two days after this workout have been much fuller than ever before. I am looking forward to see if today's workout will have the same effect.

2nd Workout
Today's workout was Chest/Tris. My rest and diet has been on point, and I was really excited to see what Vengeance could do in this environment. I was not disappointed. Muscles felt swole, definitely felt the mind-muscle connection. All the same as first workout only better. I didn't want to leave the gym but finally decided to go when I couldn't hit the numbers I wanted to. Downed my Relentless on the way out the gym and am still feeling great.



Overall, I would rate this product a 9.5/10. Definitely the best pre-workout I have ever used, and won't gag trying to down this product everyday. Once XF releases the PB whey, I will place an order for both.

Once again, Illa/XF comes through and have added yet another product to my arsenal.

One question though, I just received my order of 5 Cytofuse and 2 Relentless. Where is my bullet casing?
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Old 09-17-2009, 07:17 PM   #2
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Old 09-17-2009, 07:19 PM   #3
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nice, need to get my hands on some
Definitely worth giving a shot if you are in to pre-workouts.
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Old 09-17-2009, 07:40 PM   #4
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That is great to hear


I'll see if i can get a better release date on the pb whey for ya.

One more workout left?
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That is great to hear


I'll see if i can get a better release date on the pb whey for ya.

One more workout left?

Yes Sir.

Back/Bi's
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That is great to hear


I'll see if i can get a better release date on the pb whey for ya.

One more workout left?
I think Dave said 5 weeks when I seen him. I have enough protien till them I think unless my wife keeps drinking all my ****
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Back/Bi's today.


Going for 635x3 on Rack Pulls today.


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3rd Workout

So today was back and bi's. As I said previously, I had a goal to hit 635x3 today on rack pulls. Unfortunately, I pulled my hamstring at PT this morning, so that attempt is going to have to wait. Ridiculous workout today. As I had mentioned from my shoulder workout, the target muscles seem to be full for much longer than I have ever noticed before. My chest and tris were still pumped from yesterday's workout, and just doing the back portion of my workout got my biceps fully pumped up. This was both good and bad. It was good in that I looked swole as **** today in the gym, but the pumps almost got to be too much (Should mention that I also take Xtend during the workout at about 5 scoops). It got to the point where it was actually hurting my lifts.

Focus/drive was once again great, especially for a Friday workout when I am normally just trying to finish the week out.



My opinion remains. I will buy this once the PB whey comes out.

Good job XF and thanks again Illa.

Edit: Should mention that I did hit 585x5 on the rack pulls, which I had all ready done previously, I just didn't want to push the hammy anymore than need be.
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