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what are some ways or supplements around that can help increase serotonin?
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But I wonder if it really makes any impact worth mentioning. If you need it can't you just get some SSRI?
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Theirs probably alot of bull**** serotonin increasing supplements, i wouldnt buy any of them unless they have some research backings.. But if you want to increase serotonin i know eating a lot of sugar based foods can increase sertonin...
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As someone else stated above, sunlight is good. If you have the time try and go for a relaxing 10 min walk to clear your mind and get some sun.

St. John's wort is a natural herb that supports serotonin release but you must give it time (takes about 2-3 weeks of consistent supping)

Another one that may sound stupid, but while you are working out or even before hand try to be mentally confident that you can do anything on any lift. Dont be that cocky ******* that walks around flexing, but have confidence.
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Me or him?

Over here tryptophane is still not allowed to be sold, I think it's ok in the US nowadays again? Anyway 5-htp is one step closer to being seratonine, the good thing with that is that maybe it works more effectively, the bad thing is that afaik it should be in the brain not in the rest of the body and you don't want it there. With the tryptophane atleast I assume the body use it right if it decide to use it at all. I do wonder how much if affect anything though.

Personally I used Cipralex (escitalopram) but it's somewhat more expensive than some stuff like Cipramil (citalopram) and Zoloft (Sertraline Hcl) (I believe the later is quite cheap atleast?)
I've got the impression that the side-effects may be lower on that one though. Also had Remeron (Mirtazapine) for a short while because it were new and supposed to have very little side-effects but the magnesiumstearate in that one was of animal origin so I stopped taking it and got the Cipralex instead.
First one I had was Seroxat (paroxetine) but it sucked so hard and the amounts of side-effects are well known.

Was a long time but on the Seroxat if I remember my balance felt weird, I got sweaty and my libido where ****ing dead. As in not being able to reach an orgasm. The Cipralex is nicer in that regard but I think that maybe the Remeron were (I have no idea if that's the right word to use) even better.

Your experiences of them may be totally different though.

I also have ginkgo-biloba but I don't remember if it's supposed to do anything, and of that and rhodiola rosea one may affect MAO which may not be a good idea when mixed with eachother, tryptophane and/or the SSRIs. Also I worry about the risks of developing serotonin syndrome if that's possible from any or a combination of them.
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Me or him?

Over here tryptophane is still not allowed to be sold, I think it's ok in the US nowadays again? Anyway 5-htp is one step closer to being seratonine, the good thing with that is that maybe it works more effectively, the bad thing is that afaik it should be in the brain not in the rest of the body and you don't want it there. With the tryptophane atleast I assume the body use it right if it decide to use it at all. I do wonder how much if affect anything though.

Personally I used Cipralex (escitalopram) but it's somewhat more expensive than some stuff like Cipramil (citalopram) and Zoloft (Sertraline Hcl) (I believe the later is quite cheap atleast?)
I've got the impression that the side-effects may be lower on that one though. Also had Remeron (Mirtazapine) for a short while because it were new and supposed to have very little side-effects but the magnesiumstearate in that one was of animal origin so I stopped taking it and got the Cipralex instead.
First one I had was Seroxat (paroxetine) but it sucked so hard and the amounts of side-effects are well known.

Was a long time but on the Seroxat if I remember my balance felt weird, I got sweaty and my libido where ****ing dead. As in not being able to reach an orgasm. The Cipralex is nicer in that regard but I think that maybe the Remeron were (I have no idea if that's the right word to use) even better.

Your experiences of them may be totally different though.

I also have ginkgo-biloba but I don't remember if it's supposed to do anything, and of that and rhodiola rosea one may affect MAO which may not be a good idea when mixed with eachother, tryptophane and/or the SSRIs. Also I worry about the risks of developing serotonin syndrome if that's possible from any or a combination of them.

I'm sure it was him.


Dark chocolate has been linked to increasing levels of serotonin in the brain. Go for kinds that are at least 60% cocoa. And make sure you eat in moderation.
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I remember reading online that Omega-3 Fatty Acids boost seratonin as much as most anti-depressants.
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Over here tryptophane is still not allowed to be sold, I think it's ok in the US nowadays again? Anyway 5-htp is one step closer to being seratonine, the good thing with that is that maybe it works more effectively, the bad thing is that afaik it should be in the brain not in the rest of the body and you don't want it there. With the tryptophane atleast I assume the body use it right if it decide to use it at all. I do wonder how much if affect anything though.

Personally I used Cipralex (escitalopram) but it's somewhat more expensive than some stuff like Cipramil (citalopram) and Zoloft (Sertraline Hcl) (I believe the later is quite cheap atleast?)
I've got the impression that the side-effects may be lower on that one though. Also had Remeron (Mirtazapine) for a short while because it were new and supposed to have very little side-effects but the magnesiumstearate in that one was of animal origin so I stopped taking it and got the Cipralex instead.
First one I had was Seroxat (paroxetine) but it sucked so hard and the amounts of side-effects are well known.

Was a long time but on the Seroxat if I remember my balance felt weird, I got sweaty and my libido where ****ing dead. As in not being able to reach an orgasm. The Cipralex is nicer in that regard but I think that maybe the Remeron were (I have no idea if that's the right word to use) even better.

Your experiences of them may be totally different though.

I also have ginkgo-biloba but I don't remember if it's supposed to do anything, and of that and rhodiola rosea one may affect MAO which may not be a good idea when mixed with eachother, tryptophane and/or the SSRIs. Also I worry about the risks of developing serotonin syndrome if that's possible from any or a combination of them.
actually the part about not reaching orgasm is exactly the reason why im interested

a guy at work uses prescription SSRIs and claims he can pound away at his gf for hours since hes been using it

ive also read numerous studies showing that low levels of serotonin can lead to pe, as i read further i have many more symptoms that are caused by low levels of serotonin
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Carbohydrates!

A realistic reason to want to boost is during a cut with minimal carbohydrates your body starts to lack serotonin.
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i am bulking on carbs at the moment, im thinking about buying NOWs 5-HTP as well
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actually the part about not reaching orgasm is exactly the reason why im interested

a guy at work uses prescription SSRIs and claims he can pound away at his gf for hours since hes been using it
I think they each effect people differently, but I was on Effexor about 10 years ago, and that's exactly what it did. I don't think any OTC supplements are really going to have that effect.
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I recommend this having used it I find it helps keep you happy and content like anti depressants do. However I have also taken anti depressants and found them ton contribute to weight gain and trouble ejaculating, so I favor the supp.
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5-HTP bypasses the conversion of L-tryptophan into 5-HTP via the enzyme tryptophan hydrolase. Additionally, 5-HTP functions as an antioxidant;[1] whereas, L-tryptophan can actually promote oxidative damage.[2] 5-HTP [easily] crosses the blood-brain barrier, without requiring a transport molecule, thereby increasing seratonin levels.

[1] Simic MG, al-Sheikhly M, Jovanovic SV. Inhibition of free radical processes by antioxidants?tryptophan and
5-hydroxytryptophan. Bibl Nutr Dieta 1989;43:288-296.

[2] Aviram M, Cogan U, Mokady S. Excessive dietary tryptophan enhances plasma lipid peroxidation in rats.
Atherosclerosis 1991;88:29-34.
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But I wonder if it really makes any impact worth mentioning. If you need it can't you just get some SSRI?
SSRI's have a LOT of side effects, both short and long-term. They are also habit forming. There's an increasing movement to try to use nutrition to treat the biochemical side of many pychological issues, either as a replacement to medication or as a means to get away with a lower dosage of medication.

I've dealt with depression for over 15 years as well as fairly significant anxiety issues. Therapy aside, nothing has helped them more than eating a healthy diet where I keep my blood sugar under control, getting plenty of EFA's, getting plenty of sleep, and getting lots of exercise.

SSRI's are really designed as a stop-gap to help people hold themselves together while they get into therapy and improve their lifestyle. Saying "just get an SSRI" is like telling an overweight person who just had a heart attack to "just get Lipitor".
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Old 09-19-2009, 01:10 AM   #19
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ecstasy lolz
well it will spike it at least then your levels will be flat as a tack the next day
Hi
I wonder of anyone has an advice
Im usually on CKD diet, so in circulating carbs, but im on serotonine as well,
so how can you diet for competition if u have lack of serotonine?
sertraline works for me at the moment and have to be on it for few more months cos had panic attachs many times
any idea if u can take sertraline and avanar together?

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