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    the sitting protein shake..

    Sometimes whilst i workout at the gym i prepare my shake before i go and whilst i work out i let it sit in my car, so that i can smash it down straight away.

    Is there anything wrong with this?? Does the protein deteriorate??


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    other than it being pretty disgusting i doubt its gonna break down ur protein after only being in a liquid whilst u workout.
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    Originally Posted by COLOSIMO46 View Post
    Sometimes whilst i workout at the gym i prepare my shake before i go and whilst i work out i let it sit in my car, so that i can smash it down straight away.

    Is there anything wrong with this?? Does the protein deteriorate??


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    I am not good with describing the chemistry with the technical jargon, but whey protein's bonds start to break while suspended in liquid. That's why you don't hear ppl mixing in their whey protein to whatever liquid they're using and keeping it in the fridge, making it convenient to sip on whenever they want. That would be nice, but to make things clear and in conclusion, whey protein suspended in a liquid will depreciate. Prepare AFTER a workout and smash it.
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    Originally Posted by COLOSIMO46 View Post
    Sometimes whilst i workout at the gym i prepare my shake before i go and whilst i work out i let it sit in my car, so that i can smash it down straight away.

    Is there anything wrong with this?? Does the protein deteriorate??


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    A few hours isn't going to hurt anything. I make mine in the morning, go workout for a while, and then drink away. That said, I keep mine in my gigantic lunch box with lots of cold packs. In your car, assuming it's sitting in the sun and all that, your shake is gonna go bad pretty quick.
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    Originally Posted by samson08 View Post
    I am not good with describing the chemistry with the technical jargon, but whey protein's bonds start to break while suspended in liquid. That's why you don't hear ppl mixing in their whey protein to whatever liquid they're using and keeping it in the fridge, making it convenient to sip on whenever they want. That would be nice, but to make things clear and in conclusion, whey protein suspended in a liquid will depreciate. Prepare AFTER a workout and smash it.
    If this is true, this is great information. I've always wondered the same thing.

    Thanks!
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    Originally Posted by red_cat View Post
    A few hours isn't going to hurt anything. I make mine in the morning, go workout for a while, and then drink away. That said, I keep mine in my gigantic lunch box with lots of cold packs. In your car, assuming it's sitting in the sun and all that, your shake is gonna go bad pretty quick.
    I'm not gonna assume anything, but IMO, a few hours is too long. When you go and workout, if given the chance, take a look at those who make their **** pwo.

    The idea of whey protein sitting in water/milk and having it depreciate is not a good feeling.

    Listen OP, just make it after your workout. Even if you are sipping on it in the middle of a day, the best way to take your whey protein is make it and right after mixing it, take it. You will get the best of it. If you took a strong poll, people who are serious about building, preserving and saturating their muscles would vote and agree that making your drink and drinking it right after will be best.

    EDIT: Like I said, while your whey protein chills in its little shaker bottle, those bonds connecting the atoms in your whey protein are being broken up. By the time 2 hours are up, your pwo drink would be a normal, flavored drink and nothing more
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    Originally Posted by samson08 View Post
    I'm not gonna assume anything, but IMO, a few hours is too long. When you go and workout, if given the chance, take a look at those who make their **** pwo.

    The idea of whey protein sitting in water/milk and having it depreciate is not a good feeling.

    Listen OP, just make it after your workout. Even if you are sipping on it in the middle of a day, the best way to take your whey protein is make it and right after mixing it, take it. You will get the best of it. If you took a strong poll, people who are serious about building, preserving and saturating their muscles would vote and agree that making your drink and drinking it right after will be best.
    another question to add on top of this post, y would u just let it sit in ur car y dont u just make it post workout and make it a little easier on urself?
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    Originally Posted by Ramrod2615 View Post
    another question to add on top of this post, y would u just let it sit in ur car y dont u just make it post workout and make it a little easier on urself?
    Exactly. If you don't wanna understand the chemistry of the depreciation of something suspended in liquid, understand the convenience of having a better tasting drink right after mixing it opposed to having a drink already made and not tasting half as good

    EDIT: Give me a comparison of FRESH homemade cookies opposed to packaged cookies.
    Give me a comparison of beer straight from the tap opposed to bottled up beer.

    Fresh is better
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    Originally Posted by COLOSIMO46 View Post
    Is there anything wrong with this?l
    Woul be fine in January. At least ask the smoothie chick to put it in her refrigerator.

    Originally Posted by COLOSIMO46 View Post
    Does the protein deteriorate?
    Depreciation(LOL) will be negligable.


    EDIT: A keg is just a big beer can thats sits around as long as a bottle.
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    Originally Posted by BubbaDoc View Post
    Woul be fine in January. At least ask the smoothie chick to put it in her refrigerator.


    Depreciation(LOL) will be negligable.


    EDIT: A keg is just a big beer can thats sits around as long as a bottle.
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    Originally Posted by samson08 View Post
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    ?noun 1. decrease in value due to wear and tear, decay, decline in price, etc.

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    lol u mad?
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    Originally Posted by Ramrod2615 View Post
    lol u mad?
    naw brah. This is FTW
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    Originally Posted by samson08 View Post
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    ?noun 1. decrease in value due to wear and tear, decay, decline in price, etc.

    This guy's post (LOL) is negligable
    Sorry...I have experience in both medicine and finance, and depreciation is a financial term. I'm probably the only one who thought it was funny.
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    Originally Posted by BubbaDoc View Post
    Sorry...I have experience in both medicine and finance, and depreciation is a financial term. I'm probably the only one who thought it was funny.
    oh ok well if that's the case, then no offense or anything haha.

    i guess from a financial profession view point, it is kinda funy...

    haha
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    On Tuesdays and Thursdays I have 6 hours straight of class. I will always make a protein shake before class, carry it around in my backpack, and then drink it 3 hours after I have made it. By doing this, I'm not getting the benefits of the protein shake?
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    Originally Posted by Maikeri View Post
    On Tuesdays and Thursdays I have 6 hours straight of class. I will always make a protein shake before class, carry it around in my backpack, and then drink it 3 hours after I have made it. By doing this, I'm not getting the benefits of the protein shake?
    Exactly. Sorry to break it to ya.

    Hey at least you know now
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    Just throw the powder into the shaker cup and add the water at the gym.

    Your probably don't want to add much else than whey protein and maybe a carb powder if your concerned with that. This way you can keep it strictly dry powder in your shaker cup.

    Problem solved.
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    Originally Posted by red_cat View Post
    A few hours isn't going to hurt anything. I make mine in the morning, go workout for a while, and then drink away. That said, I keep mine in my gigantic lunch box with lots of cold packs. In your car, assuming it's sitting in the sun and all that, your shake is gonna go bad pretty quick.
    Usually working out at night so sun is no issue
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    Originally Posted by COLOSIMO46 View Post
    Usually working out at night so sun is no issue
    OP. Don't follow what that guy is doing. Don't
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    Originally Posted by Ramrod2615 View Post
    another question to add on top of this post, y would u just let it sit in ur car y dont u just make it post workout and make it a little easier on urself?
    Just so i can fit in all my meals before bed.. this buy's me easy 20minutes even 30mins doing it this way (by the time i get from gym to home)
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    OP just make sure from now on you make your next protein drink, and ALL your future protein drinks with the intention of drinking it RIGHT AFTER you make it.

    If you're going to wait an hour or more after mixing it, you are throwing away money and muscle you could've made
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    thanks for the responses guys.. i dont want to be having a worthless protein shake.. won't risk it and stop the pre-mixing

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    Ok, just because a few people on a forum told you it's bad doesn't mean it's true.

    Lots of reps have replied about this and companies have replied that for optimal taste drink it immediately, but otherwise it's ok to leave it mixed as long as it's refridgerated.

    There have been like 3 threads on this in the past 24 hours...
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    Originally Posted by shadar View Post
    Ok, just because a few people on a forum told you it's bad doesn't mean it's true.

    Lots of reps have replied about this and companies have replied that for optimal taste drink it immediately, but otherwise it's ok to leave it mixed as long as it's refridgerated.

    There have been like 3 threads on this in the past 24 hours...
    WHEY protein (from milk) so yeah, and should be alright for an hour or 2 after wards out of a fridge, of course depending on the conditions of where its sitting
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    Originally Posted by samson08 View Post
    By the time 2 hours are up, your pwo drink would be a normal, flavored drink and nothing more
    This hardly seems possible. Got any legit sources to back it up?
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    Originally Posted by samson08 View Post
    EDIT: Like I said, while your whey protein chills in its little shaker bottle, those bonds connecting the atoms in your whey protein are being broken up. By the time 2 hours are up, your pwo drink would be a normal, flavored drink and nothing more
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    This hardly seems possible. Got any legit sources to back it up?

    I highly doubt it. The guy is in negative rep-ville and making crazy claims, prob gonna go even further negative when he fails to back any of this up and people start negging him for posting that stuff.
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    Originally Posted by samson08 View Post
    OP just make sure from now on you make your next protein drink, and ALL your future protein drinks with the intention of drinking it RIGHT AFTER you make it.

    If you're going to wait an hour or more after mixing it, you are throwing away money and muscle you could've made
    This definitely seems like a joke
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    Strong bro science in this thread. Your shake will be fine sitting for a couple hours.
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    Originally Posted by samson08 View Post
    I'm not gonna assume anything, but IMO, a few hours is too long. When you go and workout, if given the chance, take a look at those who make their **** pwo.

    EDIT: Like I said, while your whey protein chills in its little shaker bottle, those bonds connecting the atoms in your whey protein are being broken up. By the time 2 hours are up, your pwo drink would be a normal, flavored drink and nothing more
    And what should I look for when I'm looking at those people who make their sh*t post-wo (I thought we were talking about protein and not sh*t)? I used to do that too. I've been doing it the way I described above for a while now and have absolutely NO indication that my shake sitting there in a refrigerated environment has a negative effect on either the integrity of the protein or my results. In fact, I've actually seen BETTER results...but that's not due to the process with which I make my post-wo shake.

    You make lots of scientific claims and have nothing to back it up with. Sounds like you're just running your mouth, brah.
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    Originally Posted by red_cat View Post
    And what should I look for when I'm looking at those people who make their sh*t post-wo (I thought we were talking about protein and not sh*t)? I used to do that too. I've been doing it the way I described above for a while now and have absolutely NO indication that my shake sitting there in a refrigerated environment has a negative effect on either the integrity of the protein or my results. In fact, I've actually seen BETTER results...but that's not due to the process with which I make my post-wo shake.

    You make lots of scientific claims and have nothing to back it up with. Sounds like you're just running your mouth, brah.
    Sorry ALL. Finishin up an essay.

    Redcat slow your roll fella! First off what makes you say shi*t pwo? If it works it works right? And I was referring to a whey protein drink left out, not refridgerated. There have been studies that show refridgerating is perfectly fine. You can refridgerate over night and it'll still be good to go the next morning.

    Now for talkin ****, you are one ass skinny motha. 6'4" at less than 190, and you're only putting a 1rpm for 207 lbs. I doubt your amazing protein pwo shake is doing jack squat for you. Yes i've seen you around threads and have been criticized for your weight and your lack of knowledge on some threads. Before you harrass someone on the internet, get your facts straight. Shi t I even had your back when ppl called your stupidass out.

    Shadar I am in the red b/c I dropped hints of sources in a thread for fun and someone pointed it out. I'm sure T Mac can clarify that if you ask. Mod got me...got me GOOD. But I will provide an article tomorrow since I'm a lil tied up at the moment. I agree with you completely on the refridgerating part.

    To clear things up, i was talking about it degrading after being mixed, especially if it sat out. Though, being refridgerated is perfectly fine because it will preserve it. Sorry for any confusion

    EDIT: Redcat you post around 8 o clock and decided to wait till 11 to talk **** when you thought ppl were supporting what you were doing. Youre **** you skinny douche bag. You need to gain some serious weight and build some respect. This is why ppl on this forum can't take you seriously you sad excuse of skin and bones.
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