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What's really in your supplements?
Nifty little argumentative piece on dietary supplements... Never knew about the Ultimate Nutrition incident & their multi vitamin...
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...811949538.html
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Kicker Vencill, 31, a former competitive swimmer who is now a lifeguard living in Santa Monica, Calif., flunked an athletic drug test several years ago and claimed it was due to a dietary supplement. The Court of Arbitration for Sport ruled that, as Mr. Vencill argued, a multivitamin that he took contained banned steroids, it was the supplement that caused him to fail the test, and that he didn't know the capsules contained drugs. But he was still suspended from competition for two years.
"The last one that I thought would be the culprit was the multivitamin," Mr. Vencill says. A spokesman for Ultimate Nutrition Inc., which made the multivitamin, had no comment.
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I haven't been around the supplement industry long enough to grossly estimate the turnover of companies that are in it for profit only... being a mostly profit driven industry I presume? I can only imagine the money that exists in dietary supplements and naturopathic medicine...
H'mmm I wonder what's in my multi vitamin now... 
Naw, I place my trust Sport Pharma & Universal. [thumbs up] (been switching between animal pak and SP's Multi V)
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being a mostly profit driven industry I presume?
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Missing the point here. Isn't this the whole point of any industry?
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09-10-2009, 12:29 PM
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Missing the point here. Isn't this the whole point of any industry?
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Worded poorly by me...
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09-10-2009, 12:35 PM
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Worded poorly by me...
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09-10-2009, 12:46 PM
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you meant...
-profit first
-profit second
-profit third
(welfare of customers inconsequential/expendable)
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Originally Posted by Rob Awesome
Nifty little argumentative piece on dietary supplements... being used in the class I'm a grad TA for. Never knew about the Ultimate Nutrition incident & their multi vitamin...
I haven't been around the supplement industry long enough to grossly estimate the turnover of companies that are in it for profit only... being a mostly profit driven industry I presume? I can only imagine the money that exists in dietary supplements and naturopathic medicine...
H'mmm I wonder what's in my multi vitamin now...
Naw, I place my trust Sport Pharma & Universal. [thumbs up] (been switching between animal pak and SP's Multi V) |
Some compaines are obviously out to make a quick buck - and then they are discovered and they financially go under. But the companies that want to be around for a long time put a lot of money and research into what they are selling because they know that the majority of consumers are not stupid and will easliy weed out the supplements that are all talk no show.
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09-10-2009, 12:52 PM
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Lulz 
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you meant...
-profit first
-profit second
-profit third
(welfare of customers inconsequential/expendable)
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09-10-2009, 01:19 PM
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you meant...
-profit first
-profit second
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Yes because everyone knows you can not care about customers and still make profit 
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09-10-2009, 01:21 PM
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Yes because everyone knows you can not care about customers and still make profit |
Also worthwhile to mention that if your supplement kills people they can't A) tell people how effective it is, or B) buy it again.
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I hope my education will formally teach me to avoid inferiorly-formulated multivitamins.
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09-10-2009, 01:26 PM
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Also worthwhile to mention that if your supplement kills people they can't A) tell people how effective it is, or B) buy it again.
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If they die, they cannot create negative reviews on the product 
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09-10-2009, 01:27 PM
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I hope my education will formally teach me to avoid inferiorly-formulated multivitamins.
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It's really about being able to read in between the lines (of the ingredient panel) and see what others can't see (due to the invisible font).
It is much easier with a spy kit. I am going to start selling them on here.
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It is much easier with a spy kit. I am going to start selling them on here.
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with the intent of profitting I bet...so ****ing typical of this industry
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seriously....****ing get over it already.
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I believe the same thing happend with Animal Pak and a tennis player. He got banned because the multi-vitamin was also made in the same factory as a steroid but yeah, universal complies to cGMP now...
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I believe the same thing happend with Animal Pak and a tennis player. He got banned because the multi-vitamin was also made in the same factory as a steroid but yeah, universal complies to cGMP now... |
did not know that. coo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Awesome
in the class I'm a grad TA for.
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Quote:
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seriously....****ing get over it already.
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my best guess places the day you stop getting mocked for bringing up your own education sometime after the first incident where you pass up an opportunity to do so
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09-10-2009, 02:12 PM
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I hope no one is wondering what's in SAN triple strength fish fats.
its our number 1 selling product for a reason: high quality, highest dosed EPA and DHA in an easy to swallow cap.
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my best guess places the day you stopped getting mocked for bringing up your own education will occur sometime after the first incident where you pass up an opportunity to do so
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Doubtful... the opportune moment arises and immediately there are people on this board that are just vultures to feed off of another's weaknesses. ..or conceal their insecurities by thriving off another's misfortunes or simply resort to a debasing mockery of sorts.
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Illa... you should try maturity one day.
ps - thanks for the negs.
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im two classes away from my first masters. i like supplements that have surprises in them. like cracker jacks. (brb trademarking the supplement name "cracker jacked")
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Request authentic C of A's that you confirm the lab exists from whomever, usually not the company on the label, usually a secondary company manufactures it. Also, checking if they hold a certificate of liability. Usually a retailers(the owner) can provide those details.
You just have to ask. Takes less time then conspiracy theories.
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Illa... you should try maturity one day.
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Post what I said in the neg.
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Rob please quit using Aminal Pak, its poorly formulated
see chasinSKURTS call out thread in the reg. sup section
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im two classes away from my first masters. i like supplements that have surprises in them. like cracker jacks. (brb trademarking the supplement name "cracker jacked")
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I think this would be a solid name, I may consider this....
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I hope no one is wondering what's in SAN triple strength fish fats.
its our number 1 selling product for a reason: high quality, highest dosed EPA and DHA in an easy to swallow cap.
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wait.. wut?
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wait.. wut?
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Just an informative post about a product I have fully endorsed for a long time but just recently started to recommend on the forum. 
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oh ok.. for a mo I thought u were repping both companies.
it is kinda random though.
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