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    If your over 180lbs do you feel you could take Faber?

    Do you think you would have a shot at whipping Faber in the cage if you are over 180lbs? The guy is fast as hell but unless he could get my back and choke me out I don't see how he could take someone my size. I also realize that we are on opposite ends of both the talent and skill spectrum so I might just walk in and get my arse handed to me. I was just wondering how you big guys feel you would fare against a small elite fighter.
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    you're a dumbass

    fedor has beaten pro fighters that weighed over 100lbs more than he does and you think an average joe can beat one of the top pvp's fighters by weighing 35lbs more than he does?
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    Originally Posted by MoonWalker0 View Post
    you're a dumbass

    fedor has beaten pro fighters that weighed over 100lbs more than he does and you think an average joe can beat one of the top pvp's fighters by weighing 35lbs more than he does?
    No, son. YOU are the dumbass.

    He said "FABER". As in, Urijah Faber. Learn to read dip****.
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    Originally Posted by Muzzle View Post
    No, son. YOU are the dumbass.

    He said "FABER". As in, Urijah Faber. Learn to read dip****.
    It was an analogy. He said if a pro fighter can beat another pro fighter who is 100 lbs heavier, then it makes sense that a pro fighter can beat an amateur who is 100 lbs heavier. It may or may not be true, but its a valid comparison IMO.

    If faber kicked a regular person square in the face it would hurt like **** no matter what you weighed.
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    Originally Posted by RedMaster View Post
    Do you think you would have a shot at whipping Faber in the cage if you are over 180lbs? The guy is fast as hell but unless he could get my back and choke me out I don't see how he could take someone my size. I also realize that we are on opposite ends of both the talent and skill spectrum so I might just walk in and get my arse handed to me. I was just wondering how you big guys feel you would fare against a small elite fighter.
    Nah man, I doubt it.

    Unless you have extreme cardio, you wouldn't even be able to keep up with Faber's pace.

    And if you cant keep up with the person you're fighting, how can you win?

    A big lucky punch right on the chin I guess.
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    I have a good chin and 7 years experience but no I feel I can not take on a pro who is 2 weight classes lower.

    EDIT: I know enough to loose a decision maybe but not win. Unless you know what your doing, it doesn't matter how big you are, you will loose. Ive rolled with body builders who out weighted me and by the 2nd minute they were gassed and I just continued to drain their tank and end it.
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    Originally Posted by MoonWalker0 View Post
    you're a dumbass

    fedor has beaten pro fighters that weighed over 100lbs more than he does and you think an average joe can beat one of the top pvp's fighters by weighing 35lbs more than he does?
    Did you see where I said I might get my arse handed to me. This is a board and so speculation and discussions take place here. Please work on your reading comprehension so that you are able to do things like participate in message board discussions and READ BOOKS. Remember it is never too late and I am sure there are many literacy programs with volunteers nearby to help you. Good luck and God speed.
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    No way. Especially considering his 145lbs is really 160lbs which makes him not even that much smaller than me.
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    I outweight Faber by 40-ish pounds.

    But I openly admit he's faster, stronger, 1000X more athletic and a lot better looking than me.
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    a lot better looking than me.
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    I think UFC 1 showed that the first step is probably some ground training. Without ground training probably even a 280lbs guy gets whooped by Faber... Now for say a 200lb blue belt, it could be interesting who knows..
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    YES. I can take him.

    bottom line is statistically if we fought 10 times i COULD beat him once. 190lbs, and been doing gi and no gi bjj about 5 months. not trained as a striker but probably have a strikers chance. also been told i have good wrestling.

    not saying i am good at all, but am saying that in mma there is ALWAYS at least a 1 percent chance that anyone can get beat. strong punchers chance who knows.
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    Originally Posted by Ton1ngchico View Post
    YES. I can take him.

    bottom line is statistically if we fought 10 times i COULD beat him once. 190lbs, and been doing gi and no gi bjj about 5 months. not trained as a striker but probably have a strikers chance. also been told i have good wrestling.

    not saying i am good at all, but am saying that in mma there is ALWAYS at least a 1 percent chance that anyone can get beat. strong punchers chance who knows.
    That's true. He might break his hand on your face like he did with Mike Brown and you could catch him then.
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    the OP is 6-3 235.
    i dont see how faber is gonna kick him in the face...yeah maybe if the OP gassed and hit the floor he would lose.
    thats why there are weight classes...so you are sayin kimbo slice cant whup uriahs ass?
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    Originally Posted by DANDIESEL View Post
    the OP is 6-3 235.
    i dont see how faber is gonna kick him in the face...yeah maybe if the OP gassed and hit the floor he would lose.
    thats why there are weight classes...so you are sayin kimbo slice cant whup uriahs ass?
    gtfo
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    Yeah, I'm sure you could shrug off a punch from a NORMAL 160-pounder, but not from one who trains professionally to throw them.

    Leg kick, takedown, overhand right, good night.

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    I think he'd beat me pretty easily.
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    Originally Posted by HardGainer82 View Post
    lol I knew the big dude crew was gonna show up in this thread. Despite what you think, being big with no skills doesn't guarantee you a win over a world-class fighter.

    Yeah, I'm sure you could shrug off a punch from a NORMAL 160-pounder, but not from one who trains professionally to throw them.

    Leg kick, takedown, overhand right, good night.

    Weight classes are there to prevent a weight advantage from fighters of EQUAL SKILL.

    i dont see uraih faber as being that powerful. hes fast and skilled....kimbo slice has like no formal triaining and is the same height and weight as the OP.
    so, you think kimbo would lose to uriah?
    i dont think so...but this is not an attack on you or smaller guys hell im only 5-9 brah
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    Originally Posted by Ton1ngchico View Post
    YES. I can take him.

    bottom line is statistically if we fought 10 times i COULD beat him once. 190lbs, and been doing gi and no gi bjj about 5 months. not trained as a striker but probably have a strikers chance. also been told i have good wrestling.

    not saying i am good at all, but am saying that in mma there is ALWAYS at least a 1 percent chance that anyone can get beat. strong punchers chance who knows.
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    Originally Posted by DANDIESEL View Post
    i dont see uraih faber as being that powerful. hes fast and skilled....kimbo slice has like no formal triaining and is the same height and weight as the OP.
    so, you think kimbo would lose to uriah?
    i dont think so...but this is not an attack on you or smaller guys hell im only 5-9 brah
    I would put money on Faber to beat Kimbo. I bet he could take him down and keep him there. Then if Kimbo gave up his back, he'd get choked.
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    Originally Posted by Ton1ngchico View Post
    YES. I can take him.

    bottom line is statistically if we fought 10 times i COULD beat him once. 190lbs, and been doing gi and no gi bjj about 5 months. not trained as a striker but probably have a strikers chance. also been told i have good wrestling.

    not saying i am good at all, but am saying that in mma there is ALWAYS at least a 1 percent chance that anyone can get beat. strong punchers chance who knows.
    Usually when the question is asked "can fighter A beat fighter B", we're neglecting those 1% chance freak accidental wins.
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    Originally Posted by LatsMakeTheMan View Post
    I would put money on Faber to beat Kimbo. I bet he could take him down and keep him there. Then if Kimbo gave up his back, he'd get choked.
    lol. ok brah
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    Originally Posted by DANDIESEL View Post
    lol. ok brah
    If you've never grappled, and I suspect you haven't, it doesn't surprise me that you disagree.
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    Originally Posted by HardGainer82 View Post
    lol I knew the big dude crew was gonna show up in this thread. Despite what you think, being big with no skills doesn't guarantee you a win over a world-class fighter.

    Yeah, I'm sure you could shrug off a punch from a NORMAL 160-pounder, but not from one who trains professionally to throw them.

    Leg kick, takedown, overhand right, good night.

    Weight classes are there to prevent a weight advantage from fighters of EQUAL SKILL.
    That is why I asked the question here as I assumed most are not without skills. I am not un trained, I have been training in BJJ or 6 months, but I am far from seasoned. I am just wondering whether a fighter Fabers size could take a much larger man as he would be winning with superior skill only. I don't think I would land a punch on Faber because he is much too fast but I also don't believe he could knock me out, I could be very wrong in that assumption. I think that Faber would hit me many times but the place I feel a big guy has a real advantage is if he is able to get Faber on the ground and get at least side control. If I were able to get a full mount on Faber there is no way he could get me off not because I am good but because I am simply too heavy and I have enough training to keep my weight on his chest. The only way I could get Faber on the ground would be if he tried to take me down. What would probably happen in this fight is that Faber would dance around the ring for the duration of the fight and hit me in the face cutting me up but not knocking me out and he would win a decision.
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    I hope this isn't some kind of halfassed comparison to the 13 year old girl thread.

    To answer this question - hell no.
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    Originally Posted by LatsMakeTheMan View Post
    If you've never grappled, and I suspect you haven't, it doesn't surprise me that you disagree.

    i grapple. and i wrestled in high school. i pick up 145 pounders over my head.
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