Yo bro, After I finish 6 weeks of B&G I'm thinking about switching back to a volume workout. What do you reccomend? I'm thinking about PHAT, any others?
Phat is still one of my favorites. Can also try some German volume training if you want to completely destroy yourself. Of course there are lots of variations of each and you can always pick/choose other exercises you want to put emphasis on.
Originally Posted by MJFan1
Mine.
I saw you said you put on some weight but didnt see pics, I ll go back and check again.
Originally Posted by th3pwn3r
I ended up going from 154 to 150 in the sauna. Felt like I couldn't drop anymore without possibly passing out. Other people lean? No, lol. Lean people are rare even at the gym I was at. Anyhow, I ended up getting 2nd, first place was taken by my co-worker who dropped 41 pounds, he's looking pretty terrible, went from over 200 to 173 and is horribly skinny fat now, he simply wasn't eating at all at times to drop weight, huge mistake on his part. In my opinion his change in body composition isn't worth the TV but oh well. I think I won a blu ray player or something. Even though I didn't win the TV I don't mind, I never had any intention of winning anything or even taking part in their competition.
Well you just really need to try harder. It's not easy for anyone to get lean and stay lean in most cases. Those that get lean and stay lean just work harder whether or not you want to believe that, it might be tough to swallow but it's the truth, handle it.
Yeah better safe than sorry. Im sure you know the danger of sauna when dropping water weight. Sounds like the dude just wanted to win. Id wager that he will be back to the same place within a few months. Skinnyfat....... not even once!
Definitely got to stay dedicated and work hard. No excuses. Everyday I ask myself, why am I not where I want to be? sometimes as pwn3r said, we all have to realize the truth and stop making excuses.
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Phat is still one of my favorites. Can also try some German volume training if you want to completely destroy yourself. Of course there are lots of variations of each and you can always pick/choose other exercises you want to put emphasis on.
I saw you said you put on some weight but didnt see pics, I ll go back and check again.
Yeah better safe than sorry. Im sure you know the danger of sauna when dropping water weight. Sounds like the dude just wanted to win. Id wager that he will be back to the same place within a few months. Skinnyfat....... not even once!
Definitely got to stay dedicated and work hard. No excuses. Everyday I ask myself, why am I not where I want to be? sometimes as pwn3r said, we all have to realize the truth and stop making excuses.
I agree after gaining 10 pounds of my 30 pound loss back I fully agree its about working hard and staying dedicated. Ill be down to 140.0 by 2014 anyway so its all good.
I hit a weight loss stall trying to lose weight too quickly so im trying a slower more beneficial approach. (Im still looking to reach 138.0)
Phat is still one of my favorites. Can also try some German volume training if you want to completely destroy yourself. Of course there are lots of variations of each and you can always pick/choose other exercises you want to put emphasis on.
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I'm not familiar with GVT, I'll have to do some homework and see what I can learn. Sounds interesting in the least!
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Im just being a cheeky kunt. What's going on in your world man?
I actually am. Every time I start to lean out I realize I am not as big (LBM wise) as I want so I wanted to go again for another serious well planned bulk. It's winter here anyway so dont need to be super cut. Successful bulk is successful too. Im pretty much done I am thinking. Time to SLOWLY lean out and maintain as much size/strength as possible. Just been working and lifting my man, story of my life! I told you I went to see Ferry Corsten earlier this month which was awesome. Fedde le grand is the 29th and every time I watch his sets it gets fuarkkkk they look incredible . I cant wait to see him here.
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Is now. Getting there man. you said up to 130 now too right? Hows lifting been going for you? Getting into a routine or is life still crazy?
Originally Posted by stingray72
I agree after gaining 10 pounds of my 30 pound loss back I fully agree its about working hard and staying dedicated. Ill be down to 140.0 by 2014 anyway so its all good.
You think it will take you that long to get your strength up (for your bench challenge) and then to drop off extra BF? If your nutrition is locked in and your training is designed for your goal I bet you could meet both goals way sooner!
Originally Posted by bullrider_IL
I'm not familiar with GVT, I'll have to do some homework and see what I can learn. Sounds interesting in the least!
Ill be honest I have only done it on occasion and never legitimately followed any of the programs for any length of time. I have used it in the past as a routine break (those days when you want to lift but you dont want to do the same stuff as always) Just pick a bodypart(s) and prepare to be destroyed if you do it right.
Hit some back today. After sickness and Kcals being a bit lower. DEFINITELY noticed it on deads. Still got 475 up but didnt feel nearly as good as it did last time. I can get compliments every day and never get sick of it. Still sometimes hard for me to hear/accept/believe and thats something I have struggled with. It does feel good to get noticed and have people mirin though.
Tried working on front levers. these things are hard! fun challenge and definitely will help improve pretty much total body strength and coordination. Going to continue working on them for sure.
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Is now. Getting there man. you said up to 130 now too right? Hows lifting been going for you? Getting into a routine or is life still crazy?
Yeah, I'm hovering around 130 now a days haha. Lifting has been great, been gaining strength and been focusing on getting stronger. (Less Reps, More Weight). I go at least 3 times a week, Biceps/Triceps/Back one day, Chest/Shoulders the other day, and finally Legs/Abs/Accessory Work the next.
"You think it will take you that long to get your strength up (for your bench challenge) and then to drop off extra BF? If your nutrition is locked in and your training is designed for your goal I bet you could meet both goals way sooner!"
I have a plan to lose the weight in mini stages as im increasing poundages on the bench press. I set the 140.0 benching 280.0 as an easy goal but I wont argue if I acheive more in that year time frame. (im at 250 x 1 now) I only need to add 30 pounds on my bench press in a year to reach it. Im not saying im going to reach it in that year but somewhere down the road I want to do 315 x 1 at 140.0.
Last edited by stingray72; 11-20-2012 at 08:58 PM.
I hit a weight loss stall trying to lose weight too quickly so im trying a slower more beneficial approach. (Im still looking to reach 138.0)
Yeah, I'm hovering around 130 now a days haha. Lifting has been great, been gaining strength and been focusing on getting stronger. (Less Reps, More Weight). I go at least 3 times a week, Biceps/Triceps/Back one day, Chest/Shoulders the other day, and finally Legs/Abs/Accessory Work the next.
good job man. So you are more focused on strength than size now? Always feels good PRing lifts and getting stronger. Hope your Turkey day was good man!
Originally Posted by stingray72
"You think it will take you that long to get your strength up (for your bench challenge) and then to drop off extra BF? If your nutrition is locked in and your training is designed for your goal I bet you could meet both goals way sooner!"
I have a plan to lose the weight in mini stages as im increasing poundages on the bench press. I set the 140.0 benching 280.0 as an easy goal but I wont argue if I acheive more in that year time frame. (im at 250 x 1 now) I only need to add 30 pounds on my bench press in a year to reach it. Im not saying im going to reach it in that year but somewhere down the road I want to do 315 x 1 at 140.0.
Nice. Just remember slow and steady. Always easier to save some and hit it again next week then push too hard too soon and injure yourself. If your diet is on track I think both goals are very achievable even sooner. Keep pushing hard.
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Did an arm workout today.
havent done an arm only workout in forever. Not really a fan to tell the truth, but a friend asked because he wanted a spotter to do some negatives. Never hurts to do something different either.
Feeling good overall. Weight is pretty steady which is expected. Have just been maintaining mainly. Slowing incorporating some cardio back here and there to get my conditioning back up since I didnt do cardio forever lol.
Hope everyone had a great thanksgiving and loaded up on some turkey! Easy way to get that protein in right!
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Did an arm workout today.
havent done an arm only workout in forever. Not really a fan to tell the truth, but a friend asked because he wanted a spotter to do some negatives. Never hurts to do something different either.
Feeling good overall. Weight is pretty steady which is expected. Have just been maintaining mainly. Slowing incorporating some cardio back here and there to get my conditioning back up since I didnt do cardio forever lol.
Hope everyone had a great thanksgiving and loaded up on some turkey! Easy way to get that protein in right!
just remember its long term. Keep at it man you are still up overall!
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Some chest work mainly today.
Flat bench. slow negatives because they are fun! BB standing press, Cable incline fly, cable decline fly, lots of pushup variations. feeling arm workout from yesterday so tris already sore and weaker than normal.
Followed by 30 min on the stairs. Re-reading Pavel Tsatsoulines book "Relax into stretch." Very informative and eye opening. I have read it before but wanted to refresh on his practices. I am focusing a lot on stretching and increasing joint ROM. No point in being big or strong if you can hardly move.
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Hey whats going on bro? I also wanted to thank you for the reps you passed my way. (ill get some to you when im off recharge) Also in other news ive been on my cut for three days now. I think im going to cut until im down to 150.0 Things are getting easier for me with dieting too.
ps...I think im finding carbs are just as important as protein when dieting. (at least for me anyway)
Last edited by stingray72; 11-26-2012 at 02:55 PM.
I hit a weight loss stall trying to lose weight too quickly so im trying a slower more beneficial approach. (Im still looking to reach 138.0)
Hey whats going on bro? I also wanted to thank you for the reps you passed my way. (ill get some to you when im off recharge) Also in other news ive been on my cut for three days now. I think im going to cut until im down to 150.0 Things are getting easier for me with dieting too.
ps...I think im finding carbs are just as important as protein when dieting. (at least for me anyway)
Hey Stingray,
Just in here doing my thing! Always working hard, and always changing goals around.
No worries on the reps. You work hard and are inspiring, keep up the good attitude you will hit your goals for sure! Dieting is all a mental game really. Once you understand that it's really not that hard.
I feel carbs depend on the person. I can do find high/low carb but I honestly feel better when on low carb. I still eat them yes, especially in times when bulking or aiming for strength gain, but I can also go low carb and be perfectly fine mentally and physically. I think certain people just adapt better for some reason. The important thing is you find what works for you and use that.
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Hey Stingray,
Just in here doing my thing! Always working hard, and always changing goals around.
No worries on the reps. You work hard and are inspiring, keep up the good attitude you will hit your goals for sure! Dieting is all a mental game really. Once you understand that it's really not that hard.
I feel carbs depend on the person. I can do find high/low carb but I honestly feel better when on low carb. I still eat them yes, especially in times when bulking or aiming for strength gain, but I can also go low carb and be perfectly fine mentally and physically. I think certain people just adapt better for some reason. The important thing is you find what works for you and use that.
Low carb works the best for me as well. As long as i have my daily morning Monster, I'm good to go.
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That's like how my first bulk went after I realized the strength/recover I got when loading up on carbs and kcals LOL. Never again.... (well not all at once)
Originally Posted by MJFan1
Mmmmm.
Add Energy Drinks to the list for carbs are I would be set.
Sugar free/carb free energy drink fiend. Full sugar drinks just taste terrible to me anymore.
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Deads today.
Few warm up sets. Got up to pulling 475 for singles. Felt great and was half tempted to go up again. Left some in the tank and going to hit it harder and get more next time. Friend got a vid of 455x3, waiting for him to send that and I will get it up. Also got in 2km on the Rower, followed by 30 min on the stairs. Forcing myself through cardio daily lol. Gotten a few compliments on looking leaner recently. Weighed in as I havent for a bit and weight is up lol. I dont even..........
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Deads today.
Few warm up sets. Got up to pulling 475 for singles. Felt great and was half tempted to go up again. Left some in the tank and going to hit it harder and get more next time. Friend got a vid of 455x3, waiting for him to send that and I will get it up. Also got in 2km on the Rower, followed by 30 min on the stairs.
Closing in on that 500 mark eh?? Nice! You def got this!
Forcing myself through cardio daily lol. Weighed in as I havent for a bit and weight is up lol. I dont even..........
This hits too close to home right now..... must be the pull of the moon or something....
You don't try to build a wall.
You don't set out to build a wall.
You don't say, "I'm going to build the biggest, baddest, greatest wall that's ever been built!".
You don't start there.
You say, "I'm going to lay this brick as perfectly as a brick can be laid.".
You do that every single day, and soon you'll have a wall.
Closing in on that 500 mark eh?? Nice! You def got this!
This hits too close to home right now..... must be the pull of the moon or something....
Yeah I pulled 495 and got up but didnt lock out so I didnt count it. I raged that day, so close but didnt count. I cut back and got sick. I am almost there again. Working on more heavy singles to get up there again. Gotta pull 5 plates to the TOP! Still trying to get vid from friend lol.
Not sure how closely you follow but I had stopped cardio for the last few months because I was focused on gaining LBM. Made making gains much easier, but I definitely notice it. High rep sets I can tell even which is honestly sad. I am definitely bigger and stronger now which is why I wanted. I think its time to lean out and gain back more athletic abilities like I used to be.
I must admit its fun filling out shirts and everyone knows you lift just by seeing your size.
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Asked buddy to record me for form. Had headphones in. Didnt know he was talking and then watched the video after he sent it. LOLed.
5 PLATES ARE COMINGGGGGG!!!!!!
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Small circuit today.
L pull ups
BB front squats
Depth push ups
Toes to bar
Also got in a 2km row, and still working on flexibility and stretching daily as well. Havent front squatted in a while. Can hardly get my hands in place. Feelsbadman.jpg.
Heard this on the way home from the gym. definitely different from what I normally post. Good catchy song though. Makes you feel good.
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Been in the forums offering tips to others. I took a week off of lifting. I still did rowing and stretching daily though. Was very challenging but I think it was good for me. Been dealing with some health issues so wanted to cut back. Feeling a bit better and getting back into it though. Trying to keep intensity up and reduce volume a bit. I know I do way more then I should, especially for how I've been eating.
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I took off from the gym 4 days myself. Its a good idea to listen to your body. As a side note im getting ready to cut for a year. By cutting 3 weeks then eat at maintenance 3 weeks and repeat the cycle.
Last edited by stingray72; 12-27-2012 at 05:00 PM.
I hit a weight loss stall trying to lose weight too quickly so im trying a slower more beneficial approach. (Im still looking to reach 138.0)
I took off from the gym 4 days myself. Its a good idea to listen to your body. As a side note im getting ready to cut for a year. By cutting 3 weeks then eat at maintenance 3 weeks and repeat the cycle.
Sounds like a good slow and steady plan. Still trying to get your bench up too, right?
Hit some rowing today. Played darts @lvl7 and went 2200m and was huffing and puffing. Smoked me. Did a light leg workout today. Some KB front squats, leg press, BB RDLs, Tired and sore today so didnt get much in.
Also going to up calories. Wanted to cut but I am dropping WAY too quickly for my liking. Slowly increase cals till weight loss slows a bit.
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