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    Unhappy Am I the only person that can't do this?

    It seems no mater what I do, how ever many books i read, how ever many different training styles and techniques i use, and no matter what trainers i see or get help from, or whoever I train with, or however much food i eat, or different nutritional methods i use, my body does not change. It is now 3 years since I began weight training seriosuly, and not one change has happened. not one tiny little change. nothing noticable or even worht a mention. am i the only one experincing this? please some one if you are going through the same thing please just let me know, at the moment i feel down and really angry about it, i want so so badly to body build but i cannot seem to do it. what do i do?? i do not want people making fun of me on here for it, tho i do not want sympathy either, i just wish i knew what was going on.
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    Originally Posted by daman1985 View Post
    It seems no mater what I do, how ever many books i read, how ever many different training styles and techniques i use, and no matter what trainers i see or get help from, or whoever I train with, or however much food i eat, or different nutritional methods i use, my body does not change. It is now 3 years since I began weight training seriosuly, and not one change has happened. not one tiny little change. nothing noticable or even worht a mention. am i the only one experincing this? please some one if you are going through the same thing please just let me know, at the moment i feel down and really angry about it, i want so so badly to body build but i cannot seem to do it. what do i do??
    man my body does the exact same thing, im pretty pissed off about it too. its hard to continue lifting when you see no results at all. then i see threads of people gaining weight or losing BF in like 6 weeks and it just pisses me off. i made some good changes right when i started lifting then after that my body hasn't changed at all
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    Originally Posted by Quentinx View Post
    man my body does the exact same thing, im pretty pissed off about it too. its hard to continue lifting when you see no results at all. then i see threads of people gaining weight or losing BF in like 6 weeks and it just pisses me off. i made some good changes right when i started lifting then after that my body hasn't changed at all
    yeh but u look fairly decent bro, my body isnt even shirtless worthy it disgusts me. and yeh i get the same i see all these ppl doing things in like weeks or months and i been slaving for 3 years SOLID and not one change, not even when i began.
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    eat more, and clean...not ****, take good supps, drink lots of water, and train hard and rest well.

    thats all there is to it.
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    your obviously not doing something right after 3 years if you dont have atleast some of the desired effects you want.

    Look at some of milos sarcev's hardcore workout videos. That guy is balls to the walls intense.
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    Originally Posted by daman1985 View Post
    yeh but u look fairly decent bro, my body isnt even shirtless worthy it disgusts me. and yeh i get the same i see all these ppl doing things in like weeks or months and i been slaving for 3 years SOLID and not one change, not even when i began.
    change up your routine frequently, try and watch the diet quite a bit. keep at it. youll see results, your 22 you ever thought about cycling?
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    Originally Posted by daman1985 View Post
    It seems no mater what I do, how ever many books i read, how ever many different training styles and techniques i use, and no matter what trainers i see or get help from, or whoever I train with, or however much food i eat, or different nutritional methods i use, my body does not change. It is now 3 years since I began weight training seriosuly, and not one change has happened. not one tiny little change. nothing noticable or even worht a mention. am i the only one experincing this? please some one if you are going through the same thing please just let me know, at the moment i feel down and really angry about it, i want so so badly to body build but i cannot seem to do it. what do i do?? i do not want people making fun of me on here for it, tho i do not want sympathy either, i just wish i knew what was going on.
    I don't know if I have been stuck as badly as you, but I think we all know what it is like to not have the body we want.

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    Originally Posted by The BeatMaker View Post
    eat more, and clean...not ****, take good supps, drink lots of water, and train hard and rest well.

    thats all there is to it.
    i eat clean thats all i eat. i havent touched a single bit of "dirty" or junk or unhealthy food sice i began. not one little bit.

    Originally Posted by knappstaman View Post
    your obviously not doing something right after 3 years if you dont have atleast some of the desired effects you want.

    Look at some of milos sarcev's hardcore workout videos. That guy is balls to the walls intense.
    well what am i doing wrong i dunno anymore man. and yeh i seen his vids.

    Originally Posted by Quentinx View Post
    change up your routine frequently, try and watch the diet quite a bit. keep at it. youll see results, your 22 you ever thought about cycling?
    yeh i change my routine, i change my diet, i do everything. i hav considered cycling...jus i dunno how to go about it.
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    Sounds like really crappy genetics...ever consider steroids lol?
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    ...wow thankd for the help guys (rolls eyes). i already figured i got sh*t genes.
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    same for me except all my lifts keep on increasing my bench my squat everything ..i keep getting stronger at a rapid pace yet my body is still the same ..my arms didnt get bigger nothing did, not even my chest after a 70 lbs bench press increase in 6 months ....no weight gain either it kinda sucks and although getting stronger is good and keeps me motivated ..i would really like it if i also gained size along with the strength
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    Originally Posted by daman1985 View Post


    yeh i change my routine, i change my diet, i do everything. i hav considered cycling...jus i dunno how to go about it.
    Pm me bro i could try to help you out, i know way to much about the stuff for an 18 year old. i studyed it for along time, when i turn 21-22 ill definately start cycling
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    Originally Posted by Leenad View Post
    Try taking 1-2 weeks off of no lifting whatsoever
    tried that before, 3 times now.

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    Try HIT and dirty bulk and then tell me if you put on muscle or not
    o yeh and end up more of a fat s*t than i already look like.
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    Originally Posted by daman1985 View Post
    ...wow thankd for the help guys (rolls eyes). i already figured i got sh*t genes.
    If you're not making any progress, then I'm guessing your diet is the problem. Eating clean is good, but how many calories are you eating every day? What's your maintenance calorie level? If you don't know the answer to these questions, then that's your problem. It's a pain in the butt, but if you take the time to count calories and get your diet in order it will definitely be worth it.
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    Haven't been eating enough.
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    i just checked out your pics and ya, you arn't doing something right.

    long before i touched steroids i had a much nicer body then that.

    i suggest you start taking green magnitude, purple wraath and taking in a ****load of protien powder and clean calories to start with. also, buy arnold's encyclopia and read it cover to cover.

    most importantly, start lifting as hard as you can. if you are lazy or lethargic you will fail. after every set you should be in agony.

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    Originally Posted by swimmer32 View Post
    If you're not making any progress, then I'm guessing your diet is the problem. Eating clean is good, but how many calories are you eating every day? What's your maintenance calorie level? If you don't know the answer to these questions, then that's your problem. It's a pain in the butt, but if you take the time to count calories and get your diet in order it will definitely be worth it.
    maintenance is about 1900cals, but if i account for daily activity about 2700cals, and i been getting about 3800 cals, i aim at 350g protein, 450-500g carbs and 80g fats.
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    Originally Posted by Kilburn View Post
    i just checked out your pics and ya, you arn't doing something right.

    long before i touched steroids i had a much nicer body then that.

    i suggest you start taking green magnitude, purple wraath and taking in a ****load of protien powder and clean calories to start with. also, buy arnold's encyclopia and read it cover to cover.

    most importantly, start lifting as hard as you can. if you are lazy or lethargic you will fail. after every set you should be in agony.

    some people are gifted but for the rest of us, you get out what you put in.
    dudei am not gettin back what i put in, and i know ppl should hav nice bodies than this before the even consider roids. i take protein powder, my calories are clean and i am sore as f*ck after every workout i push my self to pain and exhaustion.
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    maintenance is about 1900cals, but if i account for daily activity about 2700cals, and i been getting about 3800 cals, i aim at 350g protein, 450-500g carbs and 80g fats.
    What's your bodyfat %? I'd say around 15-18%?
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    Originally Posted by swimmer32 View Post
    What's your bodyfat %? I'd say around 15-18%?
    apparently atm its 14%.
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    Originally Posted by daman1985 View Post
    apparently atm its 14%.
    Have you been gaining weight at all?
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    Originally Posted by daman1985 View Post
    dudei am not gettin back what i put in, and i know ppl should hav nice bodies than this before the even consider roids. i take protein powder, my calories are clean and i am sore as f*ck after every workout i push my self to pain and exhaustion.
    I seriously think you are over-trained.

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    if youre lifting properly, changing up your routine frequently enough, and eating enough food your body will grow. Its not your genetics. Either you arent lifting heavy enough weights, arent lifting in the right rep range (try low reps and in the 8-12 range), arent changing up youre lifting style, or you arent eating enough.

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    Originally Posted by swimmer32 View Post
    Have you been gaining weight at all?
    well yes and no it fluctuats all the time, one day i will be 74Kg and the next i will suddenyl be 77Kg, then 75Kg a week later, then 79Kg a week later again.
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    Originally Posted by daman1985 View Post
    , and i been getting about 3800 cals, i aim at 350g protein, 450-500g carbs and 80g fats.
    You have been eating this ^^ every single day.

    You have worked out consistently week in and week out for 156 weeks straight? With the possible planned week off occasionally every few months?

    ^^ Both of those things for 3 straight, consistent years, and have not changed one bit?

    You're not telling the entire truth here. You are healthy? Medications? Sleeping disorders? Drug addict? Barring some type of big issue like those, I'm sorry I do not believe you.
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    Originally Posted by daman1985 View Post
    well yes and no it fluctuats all the time, one day i will be 74Kg and the next i will suddenyl be 77Kg, then 75Kg a week later, then 79Kg a week later again.
    Also a classic sign of either being jacked and ripped, or over-trained.

    It's time to think outside the box, bro.
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    Originally Posted by daman1985 View Post
    dudei am not gettin back what i put in, and i know ppl should hav nice bodies than this before the even consider roids. i take protein powder, my calories are clean and i am sore as f*ck after every workout i push my self to pain and exhaustion.
    Dude I don't mean to call you a liar, but you're definitely leaving something out, or exaggerating a tad. Unless you have some strange genetic disorder, you can't work out and eat as well as you claim and not get any results. Speaking of your diet... what exactly DO you eat? You mentioned your caloric intakes, but what are you eating to get these nutrients?

    Again, I'm sure you do work hard, but I just find it hard to believe you "haven't seen any results" after three years of "solid training."

    It definitely doesn't come easy, but I've been working out "solidly" for about 2.5 years now, and when I started I was a 6'3" 140lb toothpick.
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