I have a back disease...

BreesieBabby · 08-31-2009, 10:11 PM

... and I don't start physical therapy for a couple more weeks. Do you guys have any suggestions of how I could alleviate some of my pain? (serious)

I have disk disease(L4-5) and a bulging disk(T11-12) and the muscles are ALWAYS really tense in my shoulders and all the way down my back along my spine. I have a REALLY hard time sleeping, even with my meds that I take. Are there anything I can do for it that won't stress it more, but loosen the muscles?

(serious please) thx

ViceStan · 08-31-2009, 10:12 PM

Probably a sauna.

Num3n · 08-31-2009, 10:13 PM

I honestly have no idea.

But for sleeping, if you sleep on your side put a pillow between your knees. and if you sleep on your back put the pillow under your knees. that helps me a lot and i dont have any back problems. it makes me sleep like a rock through the entire night and i dont wake up. if i dont do it i end up waking up multiple times.

best of luck.

*edit- also taking a lot of hot baths would help to alleviate some of the tenseness in your body. but you probably already know that.

iamtheawesome · 08-31-2009, 10:15 PM

ibuprofen

try sleeping on the ground.

BreesieBabby · 08-31-2009, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ViceStan

Probably a sauna.

hrmm will try tomorrow...

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Originally Posted by Num3n

I honestly have no idea.

But for sleeping, if you sleep on your side put a pillow between your knees. and if you sleep on your back put the pillow under your knees. that helps me a lot and i dont have any back problems. it makes me sleep like a rock through the entire night and i dont wake up. if i dont do it i end up waking up multiple times.

best of luck.

*edit- also taking a lot of hot baths would help to alleviate some of the tenseness in your body. but you probably already know that.

no bathtub... poo...

I do the pillow thing... its just the muscles are HELLA tense in my shoulders it makes it hard to move... like EVER.

Darkwatcher759 · 08-31-2009, 10:18 PM

stretch your hip flexors, strengthen the glutes

komrade · 08-31-2009, 10:19 PM

rough sex (call me)

edit: boo srs tag.

Yeah hot bath/sauna works wonders. Anything to get blood circulating

BreesieBabby · 08-31-2009, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by iamtheawesome

ibuprofen

try sleeping on the ground.

i do that too. or have. but then my legs lock up. LOL I know, I'm all sorts of jacked up...

I take the ibu for the inflamation in the Lumbar part of my back and the SLANT to my spine FUUUU

5431 · 08-31-2009, 10:20 PM

rub cum on your back

BreesieBabby · 08-31-2009, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkwatcher759

stretch your hip flexors, strengthen the glutes

all the doctor will allow me to do is walk... but I HAVE been stretching bc I dont see how that could hurt... just not twisting...

ViceStan · 08-31-2009, 10:24 PM

All these problems and you're how old?.

BreesieBabby · 08-31-2009, 10:27 PM

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All these problems and you're how old?.

yeah... I'm 20.

I sprained my back when I was a senior in Hs and that set the disease into motion... FUUUUUUU its genetic... thanks dad.

Darkwatcher759 · 08-31-2009, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by breessaint35

all the doctor will allow me to do is walk... but I HAVE been stretching bc I dont see how that could hurt... just not twisting...

I guess just wait til physical therapy, I dont really know abut fixing back pain if youre in too much pain to do stuff

pedobearu_aware · 08-31-2009, 10:29 PM

Massage?

BreesieBabby · 08-31-2009, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by pedobearu_aware

Massage?

I have to get one a week and PAY FOR IT until the therapy starts...

you game pedobear? maybe I can compensate...

lol

r0bo · 08-31-2009, 10:35 PM

what medications are you taking

ViceStan · 08-31-2009, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by breessaint35

yeah... I'm 20.

I sprained my back when I was a senior in Hs and that set the disease into motion... FUUUUUUU its genetic... thanks dad.

I used to have scoliosis, my chiropractor told me to build up my back muscles so it can support my weight better.

BreesieBabby · 08-31-2009, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by r0bo

what medications are you taking

tramodol, norflex, and advil. lots of it. my liver will die

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Originally Posted by ViceStan

I used to have scoliosis, my chiropractor told me to build up my back muscles so it can support my weight better.

but I cant build up my back muscles if he wont let me lift more than 10 lbs. I couldnt even help move in to my apt. I felt useless...

I AM useless until I get this fixed, but you guys can't help with that /rant

pedobearu_aware · 08-31-2009, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by breessaint35

I have to get one a week and PAY FOR IT until the therapy starts...

you game pedobear? maybe I can compensate...

lol

I know a few Thai massage techniques. By "Thai massage techniques" I mean that while I give a massage I say "toothpick" and "thank you" in Thai.

But no, you do not get a massage. I'm too busy.

Caspahh · 08-31-2009, 10:44 PM

I'm just going to leave this here:

i fuked up my back a while ago

worked wonders for it

helps tons for the tenseness too

ViceStan · 08-31-2009, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by breessaint35

tramodol, norflex, and advil. lots of it. my liver will die

but I cant build up my back muscles if he wont let me lift more than 10 lbs. I couldnt even help move in to my apt. I felt useless...

I AM useless until I get this fixed, but you guys can't help with that /rant

So you're saying you can't make a sammich.

BreesieBabby · 08-31-2009, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pedobearu_aware

I know a few Thai massage techniques. By "Thai massage techniques" I mean that while I give a massage I say "toothpick" and "thank you" in Thai.

But no, you do not get a massage. I'm too busy.

FIIIIIINE... how RUDE... lol

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So you're saying you can't make a sammich.

ok... so I'm not USELESS... I can still cook and clean and have sex in the missionary position...

but SERIOUSLY... so I've got heat, hotness, flat surface, pillow between legs to straighten spine, massage... along with my meds...

ok... I guess... other than my womanly duties, I'm useless to the world. FML.

ViceStan · 08-31-2009, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by breessaint35

FIIIIIINE... how RUDE... lol

ok... so I'm not USELESS... I can still cook and clean and have sex in the missionary position...

but SERIOUSLY... so I've got heat, hotness, flat surface, pillow between legs to straighten spine, massage... along with my meds...

ok... I guess... other than my womanly duties, I'm useless to the world. FML.

Are they going to fuse your vertebrae?. Did the doctor actually tell you that you can only f in the missionary position?, seems like an awkward conversation.

BreesieBabby · 08-31-2009, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ViceStan

Are they going to fuse your vertebrae?. Did the doctor actually tell you that you can only f in the missionary position?, seems like an awkward conversation.

as of right now they havent told me anything surgery wise that I have to get, but uhhh it still blows... and no. I did NOT have that convo with my doctor... that just seems the least likely to JAM MY SPINE lol

ViceStan · 08-31-2009, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by breessaint35

as of right now they havent told me anything surgery wise that I have to get, but uhhh it still blows... and no. I did NOT have that convo with my doctor... that just seems the least likely to JAM MY SPINE lol

You would think so but you would be wrong.

zinggggggggggggggggggggggggg

BreesieBabby · 08-31-2009, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ViceStan

You would think so but you would be wrong.

zinggggggggggggggggggggggggg

I said the LEAST LIKELY TO... hahaha.. I know that it CAN lol

Dr. Painburner · 09-01-2009, 05:42 PM

you should come to orange and let me massage it(no white knight)(yes serious)(yes knows how to massage)

i would ice it to stop any swelling you may have, and take a muscle relaxer of course. also maybe see if the doc will give you a very low dose steroid shot as an anti-inflammatory since it seems like NSAIDs dont work.

BreesieBabby · 09-02-2009, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Painburner

you should come to orange and let me massage it(no white knight)(yes serious)(yes knows how to massage)

i would ice it to stop any swelling you may have, and take a muscle relaxer of course. also maybe see if the doc will give you a very low dose steroid shot as an anti-inflammatory since it seems like NSAIDs dont work.

where IS Orange... I'm in DFW... and I do ice it down... in fact I have ice on it right now! My doc won't go as far as giving me any shots... bc she's a pussy woman doctor(no offense if any femmiscers see this and are) she has been a bitch to me too... I don't wanna go back. I'm more likely to handle the crap she's giving me by a dude doctor... be I'm a traditionalist LOL

I ran out of meds yesterday and they are having trouble transferring my prescription for a few days now. FML. so I'm in IMMENSE pain right now. Thanks for the advice... You can PM me if you want.

spectre86 · 09-03-2009, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by breessaint35

... and I don't start physical therapy for a couple more weeks. Do you guys have any suggestions of how I could alleviate some of my pain? (serious)

I have disk disease(L4-5) and a bulging disk(T11-12) and the muscles are ALWAYS really tense in my shoulders and all the way down my back along my spine. I have a REALLY hard time sleeping, even with my meds that I take. Are there anything I can do for it that won't stress it more, but loosen the muscles?

(serious please) thx

Quote:

Originally Posted by breessaint35

as of right now they havent told me anything surgery wise that I have to get, but uhhh it still blows... and no. I did NOT have that convo with my doctor... that just seems the least likely to JAM MY SPINE lol

is it degenerative disk disease? my mom has had it for years. it got to the point it was too much and she had a 2 level fusion. she was fine for a few years after. now that several have passed, the fusion has but stress on the disks directly above and below the fusion and they are starting to degenerate

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Originally Posted by breessaint35

tramodol, norflex, and advil. lots of it. my liver will die

interesting. i dont think i have filled a script for norflex in the last 3 years since i been at the hospital... come to think of it, i dont think i ever filled one even when i worked retail. how is it working for you?

advil is pretty basic. tramadol is one of the weakest perscription pain killers out there its not a controlled, atleast not in oregon. if your pain is THAT bad, there are stronger ones before getting too crazy. You can get vicodin/lortab/norco (its the same hydrocodone just different strengths and amount of tylenol in it.

vicodin is a 5/500 or a 7.5/750
lortab is 7.5/500 and 10/500
norco is 5/325 and 10/325

1st number is the hydrocodone, 2nd number is tylenol. usually the norco is used in higher doses to keep the tylenol levels down due to liver damage at high levels.

There is alot stronger ones for break through pain like dilaudid, but its pretty potent. not sure how bad it is though?

my mom has a weak stomach and cant handle pain killers, so she has to take a 1/2 tab of vicodin.

fexeril is a good muscle relaxer but its pretty strong, (atleast on me) when would tweak my back, i always wanted something to just ease/kill the spasm, not make me crazy drowzy. skelaxin worked great for me, but its alot more expensive and your problem is definately worse.

a common problem though, when people start taking stronger pain killers and it kills the pain, they have a habit of forgetting about the problem and the go back to doing things that they normall couldnt do and make the problem worse, then have to increase the pain meds when they start hurting more or they build up a tolerance to it.

Fire8085 · 09-17-2009, 09:48 PM

I have a bulge in my lumbar area and my lordotic curve is pretty deep.

What helps me:

Walking.
Stationary Bike.
Plyometrics/stretching. (lots of diff types, see what you like)
Heat pad/ice pack.
Traction tables/machines.

Chances are you have an anterior pelvic tilt. Most people (athletes and women especially) have this situation.

Chiropractor has helped a little as well. I'm off insurance now though.

Links for info/stretching and strengthening:

http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_a...2FE19B78.hydra

http://robertsontrainingsystems.com/...s+Don%27t+Lie/

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=111459491

http://stronglifts.com/lordosis-why-...how-to-fix-it/

Also, there is a thread about back pain in the injury section. Search for spinehealth on google.

Hope it helps, back pain blows. Also, try to have someone give you a deep tissue massage in your lumbar area (spinal erectors), butt and hamstrings.

Stretch daily! Can't emphasize it enough. Any more questions, just ask.