Protein Shake Diet?

[McMuscles]

I've heard from some people that they've done a protein shake diet and they were able to lose fat without losing any muscle. I was wondering, since I am a skinny-fat guy, would this be a good idea?
Lifting weights 4 days a week, 3 40g protein shakes a day, a chicken breast and cereal in the morning.


Oh, and pleeeaasssee don't tell me I'm too skinny. My weight is too low because I have too little muscle, not too little fat, and that is why I want to do the protein shake diet to lose the fat and keep the muscle I already have before I can put my full focus on muscle building.

[jcosley]

http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_p...locity_diet_30

Velocity Diet.

[hodag1]

Whey is just a powdered form of high protein food, so yes, you can get your protein that way. You can do the same think with broiled chicken, grilled fish, or any other lean meat.

Protein is not all that you need. Muscle anabolism is triggered by a combination of two chemical signals; the presence of the BCAA leuciene and the presence of insulin. You need both protein and some carbs to get the anabolic response going. Muscle development also needs essential fats, vitamins, and minerals so I hope your diet consists of more than just whey shakes, cereal, and chicken. Visit the produce section of the supermarket often!

[ZidaneValor]

Why don't you put on muscle first and then cut? That would make a lot more sense.

[cwestwjg]

At your age just start eating clean and lift hard and you will build muscle that will make you look better than bieng 135pds and ripped.

You will be suprized how much better you will look if you put on ten pounds of muscle before you cut any.

[McMuscles]

OK, I know I would look good in muscle, but I'm just asking will this plan work if I try it

[TheNormalMan]

Lift, lift and lift some more.

And when you're done lifting, keep lifting.

[McMuscles]

OK. I know you guys want me to lift, but that's not my question.

[older2533]

OK. I know you guys want me to lift, but that's not my question.

You are correct. That is not your question. But you can't expect for a 6' 2", 150 lb 16 year old to ask that question and not get as a response "What the hell are you dieting for?"

There's a great expression: "If everyone says you're drunk, sit down."

Most literally, it means if everyone says you're drunk, then don't argue with them. You're drunk. Accept it. Sit down.

Here, everyone says you don't need to diet. You need to eat and lift. Just like if everyone says you're drunk, you need to sit down, if everyone says you need to eat and lift, you need to eat and lift.

[lee__d]

i would take advantage of puberty/growing time and bulk if iwere u

if not, just eat in a deficit and lift...doesnt rly matter if u do the velocity diet or not. get ur protein, efa's in, and stay in a deficit

[mabel4life]

You are correct. That is not your question. But you can't expect for a 6' 2", 150 lb 16 year old to ask that question and not get as a response "What the hell are you dieting for?"

There's a great expression: "If everyone says you're drunk, sit down."

Most literally, it means if everyone says you're drunk, then don't argue with them. You're drunk. Accept it. Sit down.

Here, everyone says you don't need to diet. You need to eat and lift. Just like if everyone says you're drunk, you need to sit down, if everyone says you need to eat and lift, you need to eat and lift.

cant say it any better than that

[McMuscles]

You are correct. That is not your question. But you can't expect for a 6' 2", 150 lb 16 year old to ask that question and not get as a response "What the hell are you dieting for?"

There's a great expression: "If everyone says you're drunk, sit down."

Most literally, it means if everyone says you're drunk, then don't argue with them. You're drunk. Accept it. Sit down.

Here, everyone says you don't need to diet. You need to eat and lift. Just like if everyone says you're drunk, you need to sit down, if everyone says you need to eat and lift, you need to eat and lift.

OK, you're right, but if I'm eating nothing but protein all day and lifting 4 days a week, won't I put on muscle?
Isn't this sort of like a clean bulk?

[older2533]

Lifting weights 4 days a week, 3 40g protein shakes a day, a chicken breast and cereal in the morning.

OK, you're right, but if I'm eating nothing but protein all day and lifting 4 days a week, won't I put on muscle?
Isn't this sort of like a clean bulk?

In a bulk you have a caloric surplus. Three 40 gm protein shakes will have about 500 calories. A 6 oz (pretty big) skinless chicken breast has 275 calories and 50 gm of protein.
A cup of corn flakes and a cup of whole milk has 236 calories. So you have a grand total of about 1000 calories. That ain't no caloric surplus.

[asif7083]

Hi protein diet for me. Lost almost 10 pounds in 1 week.

[cleo26]

some of that could also be water weight also

[McMuscles]

In a bulk you have a caloric surplus. Three 40 gm protein shakes will have about 500 calories. A 6 oz (pretty big) skinless chicken breast has 275 calories and 50 gm of protein.
A cup of corn flakes and a cup of whole milk has 236 calories. So you have a grand total of about 1000 calories. That ain't no caloric surplus.

The four protein shakes add up to 850 calories. And with 200 calories of cereal and 300 calories of chicken plus the ****load of milk I drink everyday, I'm up to around 1500. I know that's not a lot, but it's enough to put on some muscle, right? Sorry, I don't mean to keep pestering you, but I fail to see why with all this protein and a fairly low caloric intake would not qualify as a clean bulk.

[CHIR0N]

I don't know man, If I was on that diet I'd be sick. (did only protein to cut weight for wrestling) I do know that the flora in your stomach need fiber and amino's to properly break down and store the food your eating. I'd seriously advise against the "shake diet" even thought the math on the calories and such look attractive.

[CHIR0N]

Hi protein diet for me. Lost almost 10 pounds in 1 week.

Like you said, water weight from the lack of salts... as well you weigh more so the % of total loss will be much less from his current weight.

[asif7083]

So this protein thing is a crapshoot, or should I keep on doing it for a couple of weeks.

[ZidaneValor]

The four protein shakes add up to 850 calories. And with 200 calories of cereal and 300 calories of chicken plus the ****load of milk I drink everyday, I'm up to around 1500. I know that's not a lot, but it's enough to put on some muscle, right? Sorry, I don't mean to keep pestering you, but I fail to see why with all this protein and a fairly low caloric intake would not qualify as a clean bulk.

Um, no. A caloric surplus for you would be somewhere in the 2500 area. If you eat 1500 calories, even if it's all protein, your body will use all the calories for basic metabolic function, leaving nothing for muscle growth.

[older2533]

Um, no. A caloric surplus for you would be somewhere in the 2500 area. If you eat 1500 calories, even if it's all protein, your body will use all the calories for basic metabolic function, leaving nothing for muscle growth.

^^^^^^^THIS.

OP: At your age, weight and height, you need to be running a caloric surplus, not a deficit, if you want to gain muscle. It's that simple.

In all seriousness, you may have body perception issues. A problem with 90lb female anorexics is that they actually look in the mirror and see a fat person. Everyone else sees the truth, a skeleton, but they see a skin fold and see fat. If you are 6' 2" and 150 lbs your BMI is 19.2, still in the normal range, but close to being officially underweight, which as these BMI tables go, is seriously underweight. If you see yourself as fat, that may be a serious body perception problem.

[McMuscles]

i'm still going to try this

[ZidaneValor]

i'm still going to try this

Then why did you make this thread if the consensus is that you're doing something wrong, and you don't care?

[Mj23foreva]

Then why did you make this thread if the consensus is that you're doing something wrong, and you don't care?

because he is 16 and thats how they are...hes not mature enough to accept what people w/ experience (adults) have to say. He made this thread wanting people to say what he already thinks is correct. Arent all teenagers like that?

[ZidaneValor]

because he is 16 and thats how they are...hes not mature enough to accept what people w/ experience (adults) have to say. He made this thread wanting people to say what he already thinks is correct. Arent all teenagers like that?

I think most people are like that regardless of age.

[fatgutdan]

I've heard from some people that they've done a protein shake diet and they were able to lose fat without losing any muscle. I was wondering, since I am a skinny-fat guy, would this be a good idea?
Lifting weights 4 days a week, 3 40g protein shakes a day, a chicken breast and cereal in the morning.


Oh, and pleeeaasssee don't tell me I'm too skinny. My weight is too low because I have too little muscle, not too little fat, and that is why I want to do the protein shake diet to lose the fat and keep the muscle I already have before I can put my full focus on muscle building.

I tried the protein shake diet while lifting weights and I can tell you that I lost more weight and gained more muscle when I switched to real food and only 2 protein shakes per day. I currently am losing .4 .lbs per day and gaining a little muscle each week by having :
1 pure protein shake with oats and almonds for breakfast = 400 cals
half grilled chicken without skin and steamed veggies for lunch = 600 cals
pre workout meal of nonfat yogurt and nuts = 250 cals
post workout drink 1 scoop waxy maize 2 scoops whey = 400 cals
dinner of grilled turkey with steamed veggies = 400 cals

[McMuscles]

because he is 16 and thats how they are...hes not mature enough to accept what people w/ experience (adults) have to say. He made this thread wanting people to say what he already thinks is correct. Arent all teenagers like that?

no. but all everyone told me is that it was a bad idea, not that it wouldn't work.

[McMuscles]

I tried the protein shake diet while lifting weights and I can tell you that I lost more weight and gained more muscle when I switched to real food and only 2 protein shakes per day. I currently am losing .4 .lbs per day and gaining a little muscle each week by having :
1 pure protein shake with oats and almonds for breakfast = 400 cals
half grilled chicken without skin and steamed veggies for lunch = 600 cals
pre workout meal of nonfat yogurt and nuts = 250 cals
post workout drink 1 scoop waxy maize 2 scoops whey = 400 cals
dinner of grilled turkey with steamed veggies = 400 cals

thank you. at least someone can use evidence to back up claims, whether or not it supports what i said.

[ZidaneValor]

no. but all everyone told me is that it was a bad idea, not that it wouldn't work.

My brain cannot comprehend your thought process behind this sentence. So it just being a "bad idea" isn't a good enough reason not to do it?