things you believe...but can't prove

[Ted Nugent]

a thread over at t-nation inspired me to make one here as well! just post things regarding bodybuilding (training/nutrition/supps/misc) that you believe but can't back up with some study or "credible" source. heres a few to start!

-no matter what alot of of people say, eating "clean" has superior results instead of eating the same amount of calories from "dirty" foods.

-high intensity workouts (supersets, complexes, dropsets, etc) have more benefits than improving conditioning

-90% of supps are garbage

hard training > diet

[WillGoesBoing]

Here's mine:

> Elliptical machines are for lazy people who want to think they did a lot of work because of the exaggerated movements.

Gawd I hate those things.

[Geneticz]

hard training > diet

THAT


Wow I thought I was the only one. I have never had a consistent "brown rice, chicken , veggies , protein shake " diet. I eat whatever I want ...however I eat it in MODERATION. Nothing a ton ... changing it up constantly ...I mean its not like I down 2 burgers and a hot dog everyday but you know what I mean.

Never been over 9% BF and im still gaining a 1 lb or 2 a month.

[R.Talbott]

Here's mine:

> Elliptical machines are for lazy people who want to think they did a lot of work because of the exaggerated movements.

Gawd I hate those things.

Guess I'm lazy. I love them for "indoor" cardio. I do prefer running and bike riding to it though.

[jgrube]

hard training > diet

i dont agree. this is just from personal experience though. when i'm eating a lot and manage to drink the gallon of milk a day, i gain weight. when i dont eat, or cant for some reason, i lose weight and feel like ****.

i certainly train hard. 5 rep squatting is a bitch. i dont get as strong and everything in the gym feels harder when i dont eat right. if i ate whatever i wanted, i'd make next to no gains weekly.

maybe you can get by with eating whatever you want during newbie gains, but if you want to put on muscle/strength consistently, you have to eat a lot, and have a good amount of protein to go along with it.

[HopefulDO]

THAT


Wow I thought I was the only one. I have never had a consistent "brown rice, chicken , veggies , protein shake " diet. I eat whatever I want ...however I eat it in MODERATION. Nothing a ton ... changing it up constantly ...I mean its not like I down 2 burgers and a hot dog everyday but you know what I mean.

Never been over 9% BF and im still gaining a 1 lb or 2 a month.

you are 23 man, metabolism at this age can handle it.

[NIguy]

God, can neither be proved nor disproved

[JOSEF RAKICH]

Aliens are real.

[IEatPowerRacks]

i dont agree. this is just from personal experience though. when i'm eating a lot and manage to drink the gallon of milk a day, i gain weight. when i dont eat, or cant for some reason, i lose weight and feel like ****.

i certainly train hard. 5 rep squatting is a bitch. i dont get as strong and everything in the gym feels harder when i dont eat right. if i ate whatever i wanted, i'd make next to no gains weekly.

maybe you can get by with eating whatever you want during newbie gains, but if you want to put on muscle/strength consistently, you have to eat a lot, and have a good amount of protein to go along with it.

WELL OF COURSE YOU'RE GONNA BE WEAK OFF LOW CALORIES AND STRONG OFF HIGH. lol.. We're saying that all the broscience sh!t don't matter. You don't need to eat bland chicken breasts, oatmeal, brown rice, and all that nonsense.

[SquatTilYouDrop]

Intelligent life exists in workout programs.

[IEatPowerRacks]

God, can neither be proved nor disproved

Fairies. Can neither be proved or disproved.

[SquatTilYouDrop]

Fairies. Can neither be proved or disproved.

Not true....Have you been to San Francisco?

[Memorial93]

Lmfao

[jgrube]

5-Star Thread

[johnderriLLL]

theres no afterlife.

[GuyJin]

JR is an alien.

Just sayin'........

[theshoupguy]

Insulin spiking immediately PWO to increase protein synthesis.





I've heard so many opinions on this with studies backing up both sides, I really have no clue who to believe. Regardless, I enjoy some Swedish Fish to go with my PWO shake.

[ironwill2008]

Insulin spiking immediately PWO to increase protein synthesis.





I've heard so many opinions on this with studies backing up both sides, I really have no clue who to believe.

X2; but Alan Aragon is making me consider changing my mind about some of that.

[theshoupguy]

X2; but Alan Aragon is making me consider changing my mind about some of that.

Do tell! ...and/or share links, if you've got 'em.

[unity]

Insulin spiking immediately PWO to increase protein synthesis.





I've heard so many opinions on this with studies backing up both sides, I really have no clue who to believe. Regardless, I enjoy some Swedish Fish to go with my PWO shake.

i thought this thread was going to be nothing but skinny teens saying that diet doesn't matter, but then then you breathed a little bit of life in to it.

[Blindead]

Do tell! ...and/or share links, if you've got 'em.

just pm him, he'll set you straight.

[burbank2broward]

5 stars!

[141455675]

Do tell! ...and/or share links, if you've got 'em.

Alan has a preview of his subscription service the Alan Aragon Research Review.
Specifically, page 5 of this free preview deals with "Is spiking insulin necessary post-workout?"
http://user210805.websitewizard.com/...R-Jan-2008.pdf

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=272067
8000+ posts thread on the topic started by Alan.

In short, no it's a load of crap for the BB'ing population.

[djansen]

chinups for biceps.

[GuyJin]

Fitto,

Thanks for the links. Interesting what I've read so far--a lot to read. I was always told have something to spike up the insulin levels after a workout, but there were many times when after my session was over, I wasn't able to get in a PWO for awhile. Did it hurt me in any way? Not really. Maybe it's just me or something else; I don't know for sure.

One other thing is the egg controversy. Eating the whites and not the yolks. What on Earth are people thinking chucking away the yolks? I've eaten them whole--and a lot of them at one time--for years. Yet every time, you'll hear someone scream: "CHOLESTEROL RISING!!" No basis to that at all. Bottom line: Eat eggs; they are good for you.

[TheKansan]

I believe that high amounts of protein aren't necessary for muscle development.

[jjstokes1]

i believe that high amounts of protein aren't necessary for muscle development.

x2..

[theshoupguy]

One other thing is the egg controversy. Eating the whites and not the yolks. What on Earth are people thinking chucking away the yolks? I've eaten them whole--and a lot of them at one time--for years. Yet every time, you'll hear someone scream: "CHOLESTEROL RISING!!" No basis to that at all. Bottom line: Eat eggs; they are good for you.

I've never understood why people freak out about that either.
Not gonna go into great detail about my laziness when it comes to separating, but damn - so much easier to just eat the whole thing. Full flavor + all those lovely yolk nutrients.

[Kiwi_Kid]

>Keto is the best way to cut.

>Split routines are not necessary

>Incline bench>Flat Bench

[Ironlife]

I believe John Cena is all natural and never has taken any ''illegal substances''