anyone tried this with decent results? also, ive been hearing mixed things about it. some say its hormonal and i shouldnt try it at age 20, others have been saying its natural and its ok to take it even at 18. also, anyone know a NON hormonal supplements that would help with minimal weight gain and optimal strength gain?
Thread: diesel test pro-cycle
08-27-2009, 05:39 PM #1
diesel test pro-cycle
08-27-2009, 06:21 PM #2
08-27-2009, 09:06 PM #3
Zinc(as Monomethionine) 8mg 54%
Selenium(as L-Selenomethionine) 25mcg 35%
Copper(Chelated) 200mcg 10%
DHEA 20mg *
and then of course the proprietary blend which i already know is all natural. the thing that keep hearing mixed answers about is the dhea. some say its hormonal some say its natural
edit: and im kinda hesitant about using something so new, long term effects havent really been studied too much and alot of short term effects have had conflicting results
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08-27-2009, 09:43 PM #4
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This isn't hormonal and it looks to be a great blend. I may pick this up in the future. I don't think you listed all the ingredients.♛ God of POF Krew ♛
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08-27-2009, 11:33 PM #5
08-28-2009, 08:28 PM #6
Proprietary Blend 2811mg *
Gelatinized Maca Root
Epimedium (Horny Goat Weed)(Min. 40% Icariins)
Avena Sativa (Standarized For Avenacosides A&B)
Polygonum (Standardized For Resveratrol)
Tongkat Ali (Eurycoma Longifolia Jack)
Alpha Lipoic Acid
thats the rest of the ingredients
no idea, thats why im asking. everywhere i go i hear a different answer about it
08-28-2009, 08:40 PM #7
DHEA and Pregnenolone are both technically prohormones, yes. Though I'd hardly worry about them affecting your hormones to the point of sides or needing PCT."Life's a b*tch and then you either die or marry one."
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08-28-2009, 09:32 PM #8
"Dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) is a multi-functional steroid that has been implicated in a broad range of biological effects in humans and other mammals. Together with its sulfate ester (DHEA-S), it is the most abundant steroid in humans. DHEA is produced by adrenal glands, but also sythesized de novo in the brain. It acts on the androgen receptor both directly and through its metabolites, which include androstenediol and androstendione, which can undergo further conversion to produce the androgen testosterone and the estrogens estrone and estradiol."
I know you can't import or sell it here in Sweden, have no idea why it's allowed in the US but I guess you are different, have no idea why people say it's non-hormonal either.
I mean, imho the usage of "pro-cycle" seem to suggest it's a cycle using pro-hormones, but what do I know.
Don't ask my why the **** one would want lots of androgen crap though.
"Pregnenolone is a steroid hormone involved in the steroidogenesis of progesterone, mineralocorticoids, glucocorticoids, androgens, and estrogens. As such it is a prohormone. Pregnenolone is a GABAA antagonist and increases neurogenesis in the hippocampus."
Does that have any benefits when it comes to muscles? Corticoids, androgens and estrogens sounds like it suck.
08-28-2009, 09:35 PM #9
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