I am wondering if you are able to lose body fat % and gain size at the same time. I am not talking about law of thermodynamics (burn more calories to lose weight/ eat more than you burn to gain) because I am not trying to lose weight, I am trying to lose about 3-4% body fat to be where i want to be. I am talking about a routine of hardcore training with interval cardio and a clean clean mass gain diet, if done properly will you gain size and lose body fat % at the same time?
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08-26-2009, 03:12 PM #1
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Is it possible to gain size and lose body fat%
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08-26-2009, 05:57 PM #2Founder of MMDELAD
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08-27-2009, 02:49 AM #3
Depends.
[as above]
Yes - MOST of the time this is not possible. So, at best, you expect to:
1. gain lean mass
2. gain minimal fat mass
3. this results in better lean: fat total ratio and a lower BF%
BUT in certain circumstances (eg: young noobie) you may be able to gain mass, drop bf% and lower fat weight all at the same time.
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Genetics
diet
training
physiological status (eg: hormone levels)
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these all interact to determine what actually happens....
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08-27-2009, 03:22 AM #4
More information on reducing bodyfat by gaining mucle: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat...muscle-qa.html
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08-27-2009, 09:02 AM #5
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x2.
OP what you want to do is a body recomp. It is possible, albeit more difficult/time-intensive than focusing on muscle gain or fat loss alone.
However, something you should realize is that pushing your body hard in the gym with weights and cardio, whilst eating a large calorie deficit is often a recipe for failure. Your body will raise cortisol and lower test and all kinds of hormonal armageddon will ensue if you push things too hard, too fast.
Experience has shown that a moderate deficit, combined with moderately intensive training, will yield the best long-term, sustainable results. Get the body to work with you.It's time for a Breakthrough.
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08-30-2009, 07:48 PM #6
can someone help me with this concept, i am getting lost.
Hypothetically, if you are 5 foot 10in. weigh 148 and wanted to get stronger and more muscular, without gaining fat.. So is that impossible?
I feel so confused.
Please help thanks, Please PM me if you have the time, thank!I used to Eat like a Bird and Train like a Pussy... Now.... All i do is Eat, and I push my body to its limits, Again...and Again... and... Again...Cuz i CAN!
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08-30-2009, 08:44 PM #7
First - strength is not only related to muscle mass... it is also neural (especially in females)... <<< thus you can gain strength without mass.
With regard to the other aspect of the question:
If you are already lean and trained - then getting more 'muscular' and 'stronger' without gaining fat is basically not going to happen... In normal circumstances no one will partition incoming nutrients 100% toward muscle mass... You can MINIMISE fat gains (with good training and appropriate nutrition) - but you will not beable to stop it altogether.
If, however, you are fat, untrained and/or have *cough* assistance - then it may be that you can recompose/ gain mass at the same time.... But in most cases it is also slow and painful....
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09-01-2009, 12:20 AM #8
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09-07-2009, 08:49 AM #9
If he is asking these type of questions, steroids should not even be mentioned here.
Consider it to be impossible. The circunstances to lose BF & gain muscles at the same time must be such that you would have to be obsessed with diet & trainining + had the luck at the genetics roulet.
Don't mind gaining some fat. As long as you earn more muscles than fat, your body fat PERCENTAGE will be lower at the end."No man has the right to be an amatuer in the matter of physical training. It is a shame for a man to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable." (Socrates 470-399bc)
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09-07-2009, 04:17 PM #10
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09-14-2009, 05:04 PM #12
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they say it's a lot easier for teenagers to gain muscle and lose fat at the same time, but i can't i tried.
i bulked for like 3 months and now im trying to cut down. cutting down is more difficult for me. maybe sooner or later it'll be the other way around, once i gain more muscle. i'd like to be at 190 lbs with a little less body fat.
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