I've done a lot of reading in the stickies around this forum (all of which has been very interesting and useful for me) and one thing which seems axiomatic is the need to perform Deadlifts and Squats.
Today was the first time I implemented them into my regime and after consulting a regular at the gym, I did a 3x5 on 30kg (I'm a skinny beginner).
Squats went very well but I'm very worried that I was doing the deadlifts incorrectly. My lower back is feeling quite sore now (not the "yeah that was a good workout" sore) and I'm guessing I did it wrong.
Now I've watched all the videos and read all the guides about deadlifting. Keeping a stationary back etc and while I know they're extremely praised here, I've come to the conclusion that I value my spine too much.
Is it ok to cut them out of my work out? I know how acclaimed they are but I go to the gym primarily to watch my gains improve, not so much to get ripped.
Thanks
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Thread: Scared of Deadlifts
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08-25-2009, 03:32 PM #1
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Scared of Deadlifts
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08-25-2009, 03:47 PM #2
Your lower back is bound to get DOMS after lifting heavy sets on deads but it shouldn't be such a pain that it stops you from going on with your daily life. Without them you can build a solid physique...however I've always been a firm believer you won't maximise your results without them. Reason being how much they overlap strength in other areas.
Do them only when you feel confident. Recently one of the PTs at my gym (a very well informed former rugby player not your stereotypcial PT) pinched his back from deads using a proper form. Sometimes it just happens when you push yourself to your limits.BRB... cutting for 12 weeks
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08-25-2009, 03:49 PM #3
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You won't be as strong as you can be if you don't incorporate Deadlifts into your workouts. When you first started working out on any muscle... wasn't it a weird pain? Assuming this is your first time working on your lower back, you're just not used to it feeling sore.
If you feel you're form isn't that great, practice with just the bar, or even better, a broomstick.
Deadlifts will strengthen your back, including your spinal erectors, thus strengthening your spine... sort of.
Keep your ego at the door, though. Don't give up form just for a higher number. Always keep perfect form. The more you think you're going to mess up your back, the more chances you have at actually injuring it. Stay confident and positive.Last edited by InsanityDefined; 08-25-2009 at 03:51 PM.
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I rep back.
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08-25-2009, 03:50 PM #4
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08-25-2009, 04:26 PM #5
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I would say, most likely it is just severe doms. Your lower back probably wasn't used to that much load.
However, to be on the safe side, I would definitely say film yourself, and post the video to get a critique.
Your post was good except for the line I quoted. That won't do much. The bar maybe, but a broomstick won't provide enough weight to properly mimic a deadlift.Last edited by chazzy1864; 08-25-2009 at 04:29 PM.
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08-25-2009, 05:02 PM #6
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This stuff takes a while and dont try and just jack up the weight or you will just end up hurting yourself. I reccommend finding your form, then dont increase the weight for a month or two, just get your back stronger and get used to doing it properley, then slowley add in more weight if you wish, SLOWLEY.
i started deadlifting about 18 months ago, i started at 115(never tested my max), which was a challenge, especially keeping form, eventually i perfected doing it, now i am at 215 pounds for my 1rm, im contemplating trying 225 friday.
also look at some forum videos on youtube, i find it great because you can look at at an example and see it critiquted by very smart people.
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08-25-2009, 05:21 PM #7
While it's normal to feel a bit of fear when doing a new exercise--in this case, deadlifts--you shouldn't let fear rule your life in the gym. Do you need to deadlift? Not really, but it is a great exercise which will strengthen your lower back, hips, grip, traps--pretty much every muscle in your body. That said, make sure your form is perfect. Watch vids, practice and get someone who knows something about training--preferably a PT who is knowledgeable--to look at your form and help fix what mistakes you might be making.
As for the pain, unless there's a vid of you doing the dead, it's impossible to say if you were doing it right or wrong; the pain, as someone mentioned before, could just be from DOMS. I don't know. All I can suggest is work up slowly--the deadlift is not something to screw around with and take lightly. Practice, practice, practice. This lift takes time and patience, but if you do it correctly, you will be rewarded with a back that is strong, stable, and powerful-looking."Don't call me Miss Kitty. Just...don't."--Catnip. Check out the Catnip Trilogy on Amazon.com
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08-25-2009, 05:27 PM #8
Deadlifts arent for everyone. I felt similar pain to what you probably feel. I had a very stiff lower back which was very tender throughout my erectors and even my hips. Made every day common tasks a struggle.
I went to the chiropractor and apparently i have a cracked vertabrae in my lower spine. This happened years ago and has fully healed however it has weakened my lower back and is causing the disc to slip forward.
I am not allowed to put any heavy stress on my lower back, which means no dead lifts. Bent over rows, squats... etc.
Im just saying be careful, everyone on this forum told me that i had DOMS and it definetly was not.
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08-25-2009, 05:45 PM #9
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08-28-2009, 12:54 PM #12
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Sorry for the late reply (and bump).
I tried Deadlifts again and actually asked a guy who works at the gym to watch me do it. He said my form was very good so I guess I'll keep working on my confidence with the low weights.
Being competitive and thirsty for weight is really my thing anyways so thank you very much for all the advice guys. I'll add rep.
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08-28-2009, 02:29 PM #13
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