All push/All pull routines

[greatguns8]

Some of the first articles I read on bodybuilding showed routines that combined chest and tris, or back and bis. The idea was that you would pre-fatigue the arms, then kill them. I've done the push version, chest and tris, lately, to save time, but even my old-school buddy asked me why I would combine those body parts. Anyone else doing, or done, that combination?

[Wayne Evans]

Originally Posted by greatguns8

Some of the first articles I read on bodybuilding showed routines that combined chest and tris, or back and bis. The idea was that you would pre-fatigue the arms, then kill them. I've done the push version, chest and tris, lately, to save time, but even my old-school buddy asked me why I would combine those body parts. Anyone else doing, or done, that combination?

Mornin'....I'll bump you...

This question has come up in the past.

I was doing chest/tris back/bis up until about 18 months ago then I decided to change to a 4 or 5 day split.

Personally...I have come to prefer the back/tri chest/bi but have no idea if one is actually better than the other.
I prefer having more control of warming up each muscle group than the 'pre-fatigue then kill them' approach.

So...you might also want to do a 'search' and hopefully others will give you some input.

Good luck...

[ghostwrx]

On my split training weeks I use do chest/tris back/bis and leg. Although due to the sports I am involved in I am really don't train that way as much as I am looking for over all strength more. I don't see why it would make a difference if you trained that why. As long as you are not stressing the arms to much and over training them you should be fine. You could break the way they are done, by doing a chest/back one day then a tris/bis another day. The trouble with that is when you go back to do chest/back the arms may not be fully recovered. Just my .02 though.

[Old_Swole]

Originally Posted by greatguns8

Some of the first articles I read on bodybuilding showed routines that combined chest and tris, or back and bis. The idea was that you would pre-fatigue the arms, then kill them. I've done the push version, chest and tris, lately, to save time, but even my old-school buddy asked me why I would combine those body parts. Anyone else doing, or done, that combination?

push pull routines have been around since i first started lifting (late 70's) and before that i'm sure. of course the idea was that you do all the pushing type lifts one day to incorporate all the "pushing" muscles" and pulling the next to work all the "pulling muscles". thus giving rest to each muscle group. I think it's great program but then again any routine you use making sure you get enough rest before hitting that group again is a great program. In my opinion I dont think there is any routine that is better than another as long as your giving your body the rest it needs and consistanly getting to the gym. I didn't mention diet because thats a whole different subject.

[greatguns8]

Originally Posted by jtcook

push pull routines have been around since i first started lifting (late 70's) and before that i'm sure. of course the idea was that you do all the pushing type lifts one day to incorporate all the "pushing" muscles" and pulling the next to work all the "pulling muscles". thus giving rest to each muscle group. I think it's great program but then again any routine you use making sure you get enough rest before hitting that group again is a great program. In my opinion I dont think there is any routine that is better than another as long as your giving your body the rest it needs and consistanly getting to the gym. I didn't mention diet because thats a whole different subject.

JT, youu hit the timeline about right for me: I first read these routines in the late 1960s. Just wondered if anyone else has used them because no one talks about them. I agree with you, that no single routine is the holy grail. In fact, all routines used periodically is probably the way to go, forced variety, and, of course, consistency.