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Old 08-22-2009, 02:33 PM   #1
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Dumbell floor press safer for shoulder's joint ?

Hi everybody,

Could someone confirm that db floor press is safer for shoulder's joint ?

Thank you by advance for your opinions !
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Old 08-22-2009, 02:34 PM   #2
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Hi everybody,

Could someone confirm that db floor press is safer for shoulder's joint ?

Thank you by advance for your opinions !
Haven't seen many do them with DB's.

Should be safer but floor presses don't put a crazy
amount of force on the delts like a standard bp does.
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Old 08-22-2009, 02:42 PM   #3
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In a word yes, but serious compromises on range of motion. It's is commonly used by powerlifters to eak out weakness in the mid-lockout position of their bench press. Rarely though have a I seen as the primary exercise when targetting the chest however it does work and would be an excellent exercises especially when you have shoulder problems! Before there was such a thing as the 'bench press' everyone used the floor press, and there was much fewer shoulder problems back then.
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Old 08-22-2009, 02:47 PM   #4
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Well it has to be safer because there is not as much free motion on the floor. You cant move your elbows back as far so it is pretty much like a fraction of a regular rep. Just make sure when using heavy weights to pick them up and release them right when done. Other then that it should be safe and work your chest alittle.
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Old 08-22-2009, 03:18 PM   #5
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I believe it's safer because of the limited range of motion. The further your arms go back, the more stress on the rotator cuff.
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Old 08-22-2009, 06:28 PM   #6
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Floor Presses are all I do I don't even bench. I did them with just db's but pleatued at 95's. I got alot stronger with bb. I have a standard bb with 50's that rest on cinder blocks I use to do that in the garage. I put some bumpers on the end so it can't roll off as easy cuz it could be dangerous. The most I've repped on it is 255lbs and it holds it.
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Old 08-23-2009, 05:57 AM   #7
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When i lower my dumbelle at floor press, i push back the dumbell juste before it hits the floor.

So i just wante to know if it's good (for increased tension during the whole move) or at the contrary if it is nasty (for the joint, etc.....)......

Thank your again for your help !
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imo i dont like the dumbell floor press since if u go heavy it kinda feels like your arms r gonna buckle in towards your chest. i find doing them on a bench a whole lot safer. Also try to not have a to wide grip if ur worried about ur shoulder joint. For me i lower the inner plates of each dumbell to just about the outer side of each pec.(your elbows will flare out abit) i barely feel any tension in the joint and get crazy chest, shoulder and triceps pumps. hope it helped

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Old 08-24-2009, 04:07 AM   #9
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any other opinions on db floor press ?
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Old 08-24-2009, 04:33 AM   #10
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could be

if they're heavy then getting them into position is likely to cause more shoulder trauma than a basic BB bench... try them palms facing to take as much stress as possible off the RC (although you may load more on the AC doing them like this. Can't win them all)


My floor press is almost the same range of motion as a full press thanks to my t-rex arms and protruding man-boobies, but for most people it's a lot less pressure on the shoulders.
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Old 08-24-2009, 06:22 AM   #11
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So if i well understood, the safest ways for shoulder joint when you practise db floor press are the following :

- Practise Db floor press with neutral grip (so the 2 palms facing each other if i understood)
- Or practising db floor press with elbows very close to the chest (so you can nearly touch the pec with inner part of the dumbell)

Am i right ?

P.S : So if i practise db floor press with elbows close to my chest, i will put less stress on my shoulder joint and rotator cuff ? Besides this, it is the triceps that will work more and less my pecs ?
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the further out you go from neutral (palms facing, elbows at sides) the more the RC has to work to stabilize the shoulder. Especially the supraspinatus, which seems to be the one that gets injured / irritated the easiest

yet another reason why benching to the upper chest with excessive elbow flare is a Bad Thing
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