Stronger at a young age than the older guys?

Jericho786 · 08-13-2009, 03:11 PM

How come young guys are so stronger than even older guys? People around 22-27 or older are proud of benching 220lb, but when they find out some young kid at 14-17 is benching numbers like that already, puts you too shame. Why is this?

**Arlecchino** · 08-13-2009, 03:13 PM

Anyone proud of benching 220lbs. is either completely clueless with respect to what strength is, or they are a woman.

Moh7 · 08-13-2009, 03:14 PM

My friend squatted 345 couple days ago. He did it to 90degrees too. Besides, dont forget that at 16-17 is were its the easiest to get mucles.

Jericho786 · 08-13-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Arlecchino

Anyone proud of benching 220lbs. is either completely clueless with respect to what strength is, or they are a woman.

Some people are not strong, but I assume an older person whether he's strong or not as a genetic thing should be able to out lift the younger dudes, but some dont at all.

Canadas_elite · 08-13-2009, 03:14 PM

an untrained 17 year old is about as strong as an untrained 27 year old

DanT · 08-13-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Arlecchino

Anyone proud of benching 220lbs. is either completely clueless with respect to what strength is, or they are a woman.

I'd be proud of benching 220 lbs

but then again i weigh 120 lbs and am manlet

flamingdragon · 08-13-2009, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Arlecchino

Anyone proud of benching 220lbs. is either completely clueless with respect to what strength is, or they are a woman.

You're kidding, right?

The average 175 pound man can bench about 135 pounds.

220 is a fantastic bench for anyone.

sword_ · 08-13-2009, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Arlecchino

Anyone proud of benching 220lbs. is either completely clueless with respect to what strength is, or they are a woman.

(not my 1RM)

Vorian · 08-13-2009, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Arlecchino

Anyone proud of benching 220lbs. is either completely clueless with respect to what strength is, or they are a woman.

lol STRONG insecurity

Not everyone wants big muscles, abs > gazillion of big muscles

PatrickBateman1 · 08-13-2009, 03:16 PM

I don't know about being proud for lifting certain weight, but my training isn't about going really heavy anymore. Have had plenty of injuries and my body just doesn't need to be lifting tons of weight.

BiggerTommorow · 08-13-2009, 03:18 PM

lulz at 220 being a good bench, right there is why people are so "weak", you need to have the mentality that your goals are only for the short term and the possibilities are limitless. Basically if i can bench 220 why cant i bench 225 and if i can bench 225 why not 230.

Beeewbs · 08-13-2009, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Arlecchino

Anyone proud of benching 220lbs. is either completely clueless with respect to what strength is, or they are a woman.

Not sure if serious. Maybe you've been hanging out with a lot of juicing ladies.

-Lucifer · 08-13-2009, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Arlecchino

Anyone proud of benching 220lbs. is either completely clueless with respect to what strength is, or they are a woman.

lol I can't even bench 180.

Jeremy90 · 08-13-2009, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by flamingdragon

You're kidding, right?

The average 175 pound man can bench about 135 pounds.

220 is a fantastic bench for anyone.

for anyone who works out often, 220 is not impressive. I did that when I was 16

Beeewbs · 08-13-2009, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BiggerTommorow

lulz at 220 being a good bench, right there is why people are so "weak", you need to have the mentality that your goals are only for the short term and the possibilities are limitless. Basically if i can bench 220 why cant i bench 225 and if i can bench 225 why not 230.

Easy for a guy weighing 230 to say. If you couldn't bench 230 at your weight, you should probably shoot yourself in the face, but for the average sized guy, I'd say 220 is pretty good.

**Arlecchino** · 08-13-2009, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by flamingdragon

You're kidding, right?

The average 175 pound man can bench about 135 pounds.

220 is a fantastic bench for anyone.

Um, no.

It might be a fantastic lift for an untrained individual, but I know at least one guy who competed in the 123lbs. class who pushed 275 in competition, and that is after three heavy squats.

Point being, most of the people who brag about their lifts are the ones who should not being doing so. 99% of the people who actually are strong do not walk around talking a bunch of ****.

MassTrained · 08-13-2009, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Arlecchino

Anyone proud of benching 220lbs. is either completely clueless with respect to what strength is, or they are a woman.

That's not a very fair assessment. Some of us weren't gifted with good beginning strength and as a result have to work incredibly hard to make increases in lifts as compared to some others that make them relatively easy. I started off with a max of 95 lbs. and now maxing 225, IMPROVEMENT is the biggest thing.

-Lucifer · 08-13-2009, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Arlecchino

Um, no.
It might be a fantastic lift for an untrained individual, but I know at least one guy who competed in the 123lbs. class who pushed 275 in competition, and that is after three heavy squats.
Point being, most of the people who brag about their lifts are the ones who should not being doing so. 99% of the people who actually are strong do not walk around talking a bunch of ****.

Impressive.

I've never been able to lift as much as most of you guys but I'm still a lot stronger than what I used to be last year so I'm happy.

lebronjames · 08-13-2009, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Arlecchino

Um, no.

It might be a fantastic lift for an untrained individual, but I know at least one guy who competed in the 123lbs. class who pushed 275 in competition, and that is after three heavy squats.

Point being, most of the people who brag about their lifts are the ones who should not being doing so. 99% of the people who actually are strong do not walk around talking a bunch of ****.

thats a powerlifting comp, id be impressed if a guy weighing 130 was benching 2 plates

but i do agree on the part where people shouldnt be walking around talking about their lifts 24/7 but if its a big milestone i dont see why you cant mention it to a community of lifters for more motivation to lift heavier

Beeewbs · 08-13-2009, 03:27 PM

This makes me sad. I've been lifting for over 10 years, and my max has never been close to these numbers. WTF is wrong with me? I eat right, train hard and read a lot.

This just doesn't seem right. I don't think most serious lifters are even close to these numbers.

http://staff.washington.edu/griffin/maxweight.txt

jsheppard1 · 08-13-2009, 03:28 PM

Having an impressive bench doesn't mean you are strong and/or have a good physique. Lots of teenage kids can bench 225-300 pounds, but would be lucky to give you 1 pull-up.

TheClips · 08-13-2009, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DanT

I'd be proud of benching 220 lbs

but then again i weigh 120 lbs and am manlet

It's ok dude, stick with it and do the best you can. (serious)

**Arlecchino** · 08-13-2009, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MassTrained

That's not a very fair assessment. Some of us weren't gifted with good beginning strength and as a result have to work incredibly hard to make increases in lifts as compared to some others that make them relatively easy. I started off with a max of 95 lbs. and now maxing 225, IMPROVEMENT is the biggest thing.

I am glad you have improved, and I assure you I am serious when I say that.

But the point that most people have no real grasp of what a good bench is still stands. I coached one woman who benched 225 in competition. Most people not only have no idea what it means to be strong, but what it takes to get there. That is fine for bodybuilders, but then those who do not train to be strong are usually the first ones to run their mouths about what they lift.

BBmisc420196 · 08-13-2009, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Vorian

lol STRONG insecurity

Not everyone wants big muscles, abs > gazillion of big muscles

How come people who claim they dont want to be big, are always tiny? You know like 160lbs at 6ft3 like you. Not flaming, I used to be 145lbs, just wondering why its only the skinny dudes who claim this.

lincolnmkv · 08-13-2009, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DanT

I'd be proud of benching 220 lbs

but then again i weigh 120 lbs and am manlet

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Originally Posted by flamingdragon

You're kidding, right?

The average 175 pound man can bench about 135 pounds.

220 is a fantastic bench for anyone.

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Originally Posted by Vorian

lol STRONG insecurity

Not everyone wants big muscles, abs > gazillion of big muscles

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Originally Posted by Beeewbs

Not sure if serious. Maybe you've been hanging out with a lot of juicing ladies.

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Originally Posted by DaRk LuCiFeR

lol I can't even bench 180.

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Originally Posted by Beeewbs

Easy for a guy weighing 230 to say. If you couldn't bench 230 at your weight, you should probably shoot yourself in the face, but for the average sized guy, I'd say 220 is pretty good.

This is definitive proof that the MISC has nothing to do with bodybuilding. If you can't bench 225, you should be in the gym instead of fkucing around on the internet.

Beeewbs · 08-13-2009, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Arlecchino

I am glad you have improved, and I assure you I am serious when I say that.

But the point that most people have no real grasp of what a good bench is still stands. I coached one woman who benched 225 in competition. Most people not only have no idea what it means to be strong, but what it takes to get there. That is fine for bodybuilders, but then those who do not train to be strong are usually the first ones to run their mouths about what they lift.

You keep on talking about "this one guy" or "this one girl," but what about out of 1000 serious lifters? There will always be freaks of nature, but we're talking about averages.

sword_ · 08-13-2009, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Arlecchino

I am glad you have improved, and I assure you I am serious when I say that.

But the point that most people have no real grasp of what a good bench is still stands. I coached one woman who benched 225 in competition. Most people not only have no idea what it means to be strong, but what it takes to get there. That is fine for bodybuilders, but then those who do not train to be strong are usually the first ones to run their mouths about what they lift.

FYI you are speaking from a powerlifter's perspective. I tend to agree but these ppl are arguing that compared to the average untrained individual (I dunno why you'd make this comparison though) that benching that much is good.

Benihanas · 08-13-2009, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jsheppard1

Having an impressive bench doesn't mean you are strong and/or have a good physique. Lots of teenage kids can bench 225-300 pounds, but would be lucky to give you 1 pull-up.

this. I kind of agree with Arlechinno tho (no rep beg). 220 is seen (by me at least) as a fairly respectable and common 1 rep max for a lot of average lifters. I consider my build to be very average, 6' around 180, and I didn't know proper bench form (arching your back) until about 4 months ago. I've never tested my 1 rep max, but currently I do sets of 5 reps at 175. I think for the average lifter being able to put up your body weight is pretty good. That being said, if you are serious about lifting and your goals are to be hyooge and jacked, you should be able to put up more than your body weight

Dextroamph_Salt · 08-13-2009, 03:36 PM

BRB not being proud of my lifts because mod says I can't be. lul

Beeewbs · 08-13-2009, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BBmisc420196

How come people who claim they dont want to be big, are always tiny? You know like 160lbs at 6ft3 like you. Not flaming, I used to be 145lbs, just wondering why its only the skinny dudes who claim this.

I've been about 35 pounds heavier. Didn't like it. I'd rather be more agile. Your question is sort of silly. Why would someone who is in shape at 200 pounds or so complain about it? Why would you see a bunch of dudes work to get that big and then not bother to lose the weight, and say "damn, I wish I didn't weigh this much." He just wouldn't get that big or would simply lose weight.