Israelis shot Gaza civilians waving white flags

[Vargas]

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/09081...ct_gaza_rights

Israeli soldiers unlawfully shot and killed 11 Palestinian civilians, including four children, who were in groups waving white flags during the Gaza war, Human Rights Watch said on Thursday.

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and the beat goes on...

[balls2wall]

O REALLY..

(IsraelNN.com) The IDF has slammed a Human Right Watch (HRW) report issued last Thursday that criticized Israel for what it termed "white flag" deaths during last January's Operation Cast Lead in Gaza.

The report claimed that IDF soldiers killed 11 Palestinian Authority Arab civilians while they were holding 'white flags' in the Gaza Strip, including five women and four children.


According to testimony cited by the New York-based lobby group, each of the victims was either standing, walking or driving slowly in a vehicle at the time of their deaths. In each case, claimed the investigators, the IDF was in control of the area, and there was no local combat in progress.

The IDF said flatly that the report is based on unreliable sources, adding that it was a common tactic of Hamas terrorists to shoot and then raise white flags to protect themselves from retaliation.

The IDF Spokesman's Office posted a video on the YouTube website on Thursday showing Hamas terrorists waving white flags to escape IDF retaliation.

"The report is based on the testimonies of a few Palestinian civilians whose credibility has not been proven," the IDF Spokesman pointed out.

Video:

[NuggzTheNinja]

Earlier this month, HRW published another report on the Gaza war in which it said rocket attacks carried out against Israel by Hamas and other Palestinian militant groups amounted to war crimes.

It's just the Jews that do wrong, though.

[48Volts]

Great video there, definitely more reliable than civilian palestinians. It proves absolutely nothing, except for the fact that IDF has mediocre editing skills, and they take the world as fools. How do you honestly feel about yourself defending the massacre of over 1000 civilians? Only an evil human being can think that is actually justified.

[NuggzTheNinja]

Great video there, definitely more reliable than civilian palestinians. It proves absolutely nothing, except for the fact that IDF has mediocre editing skills, and they take the world as fools. How do you honestly feel about yourself defending the massacre of over 1000 civilians? Only an evil human being can think that is actually justified.

Were you there?

[dogdogs]

Were you there?

were you there is the only answer you can give. Open your eyes man i feel kinda sorry for you. your spitting out the same crap here for years... lol despite being here in this section for so long your still living in your illusion world. im not even lying i feel sorry for you and im glad i can see the truth.

[48Volts]

Were you there?

You're right, I wasn't there, so it didn't happen...right?

What do you gain by supporting Israeli massacres of civilians since 1947? Just wondering. Do you think you're supporting freedom, justice, democracy??

I never understand why Americans are so in favor of Israel's racist regime.

[Steak_n_Taters]

Um... Israel/Gaza is SO 6 months ago.

Healthcare is what is supposed to be discussed now.

[US_Ranger]

Great video there, definitely more reliable than civilian palestinians. It proves absolutely nothing, except for the fact that IDF has mediocre editing skills, and they take the world as fools. How do you honestly feel about yourself defending the massacre of over 1000 civilians? Only an evil human being can think that is actually justified.

So you have Palestinian civilians arguing from one side with no evidence and then you have a video (whether edited or not) from the Israeli side and your response is to ignore that and go into the usual tirade of anti-Israeli rhetoric.

There isn't really any point in these threads because it doesn't matter what counter-evidence is shown to people like you, you're not going to listen to it. And if you want to talk about mediocre editing skills, why not comment on all the Pallywood videos from Hamas. The famous child behind the barrel in the street video comes to mind.

[Dr Miscer]

you can't really trust israeli media at all. i trust a western media source moreso than israeli

[bird72]

Great video there, definitely more reliable than civilian palestinians. It proves absolutely nothing, except for the fact that IDF has mediocre editing skills, and they take the world as fools. How do you honestly feel about yourself defending the massacre of over 1000 civilians? Only an evil human being can think that is actually justified.

can you post a source and proof of the 1000 civilians masacre? thank you.

[48Volts]

So you have Palestinian civilians arguing from one side with no evidence and then you have a video (whether edited or not) from the Israeli side and your response is to ignore that and go into the usual tirade of anti-Israeli rhetoric.

There isn't really any point in these threads because it doesn't matter what counter-evidence is shown to people like you, you're not going to listen to it. And if you want to talk about mediocre editing skills, why not comment on all the Pallywood videos from Hamas. The famous child behind the barrel in the street video comes to mind.

How about the bodies of the 11 Palestinian civilians, including four children, does that count as proof? Even if this video was real, there's no way to prove it is the video of the situation in question.

Basically you're saying, Isreal, which is a known war criminal, says they only killed 11 civilians because they suspect a terrorist was hiding among them, and they are justified to do so? You can actually defend that with a straight face??

[balls2wall]

Great video there, definitely more reliable than civilian palestinians. It proves absolutely nothing, except for the fact that IDF has mediocre editing skills, and they take the world as fools. How do you honestly feel about yourself defending the massacre of over 1000 civilians? Only an evil human being can think that is actually justified.

But the anonymous testimonials with 0 proof are certainly better proven...

[photomasterx]

So you have Palestinian civilians arguing from one side with no evidence and then you have a video (whether edited or not) from the Israeli side and your response is to ignore that and go into the usual tirade of anti-Israeli rhetoric.

That video is not from that event. It's supposed to be another event although it is heavily edited and no unedited clips are avialable.

Although it appears on the Hareetz newpaper(online) on the same story, it is infact an unrelated video of another event unlinked to the report posted by the OP.

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[Nagalfar]

You're right, I wasn't there, so it didn't happen...right?

What do you gain by supporting Israeli massacres of civilians since 1947? Just wondering. Do you think you're supporting freedom, justice, democracy??

I never understand why Americans are so in favor of Israel's racist regime.

I never understood why Americans would support terrorists.. but you are proof some do.

[ghengisconor]

the anti-israel peeps in this thread are trying to pull a johnnie cochran


"all this forensic evidence - why are we even having a trial?"

[balls2wall]

How about the bodies of the 11 Palestinian civilians, including four children, does that count as proof? Even if this video was real, there's no way to prove it is the video of the situation in question.

Basically you're saying, Isreal, which is a known war criminal, says they only killed 11 civilians because they suspect a terrorist was hiding among them, and they are justified to do so? You can actually defend that with a straight face??

pics/videos of the civilians with white flags being killed/dead?

The IDF never agreed or defended against those specific claims, as they are baseless.

[48Volts]

can you post a source and proof of the 1000 civilians masacre? thank you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_War#Casualties

Now GTFO.

[US_Ranger]

But the anonymous testimonials with 0 proof are certainly better proven...

That's exactly my point.

That video is not from that event. It's supposed to be another event although it is heavily edited and no unedited clips are avialable.

Although it appears on the Hareetz newpaper(online) on the same story, it is infact an unrelated video of another event unlinked to the report posted by the OP.

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If evidence is shown that this video is NOT of that event then we have something. Until then, I'm not taking the word of anonymous civilians who most likely hate Israel and will say just about anything.

[balls2wall]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_War#Casualties

Now GTFO.

Civilians: 926 (Palestinian Centre for Human Rights)

295 (IDF)

In cased you missed it, Hamas terroists are palestinian civilians too.


And yes, when you elect a terrorist government you better be expecting casualty's .

[ghengisconor]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_War#Casualties

Now GTFO.

Yup.

You keep throwing rocks at a bees nest, the bees will eventually respond.

NOW GTFO.

[48Volts]

pics/videos of the civilians with white flags being killed/dead?

The IDF never agreed or defended against those specific claims, as they are baseless.

Claims are baseless?? lol ok. You post an edited, unrelated video of a different incident, and you tell me that is more proof (not sure what you're trying to prove) than 11 bodies of civilians. Talk about baseless.

I'm not sure what you're trying to prove here. How about we start by spelling out our points first? Are you saying these 11 people were never killed by IDF, or are you saying they were, but it is for a good reason since a "terrorist" was hiding amongst them?

[48Volts]

Civilians: 926 (Palestinian Centre for Human Rights)

295 (IDF)

In cased you missed it, Hamas terroists are palestinian civilians too.


And yes, when you elect a terrorist government you better be expecting casualty's .

Naturally we should take IDF's word, right?

[48Volts]

Yup.

You keep throwing rocks at a bees nest, the bees will eventually respond.

NOW GTFO.

umm...so nevermind the fact that 1.5 million gazans have been blockaded in an open air prison, cut off from basic necessities for over 2 years, and the fact that Israel was the one who broke the ceasefire, right?

Of course, this is what the Palestinians get for democratically electing a government. Sounds like fair punishment to me.

How dare these terrorists fight against their occupier?!!

[photomasterx]

Yup.

You keep throwing rocks at a bees nest, the bees will eventually respond.

NOW GTFO.

Do you even know about this conflict?

The Israeli's and Hamas were in a cease fire.

Hamas stopped firing rockets and mortars towards Israel. And infact there was a recorded drop in incidents accross the border.

The conflict started when Israel fired into the gaza strip which is legally not recogonised as Israeli terratory and when the violated the cease fire then Hamas responded back.

This is documented fact that the conflict was started by Israel when the claimed they bombed a tunnel outside of the Israeli terratory miles inside the Gaza strip carrying out a violation of the cease fire. Hamas then responded back and Israel launched a war.


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[bird72]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_War#Casualties

Now GTFO.

The Palestinian Ministry of Health, is your source?, i need to imagine your idioticy...

[balls2wall]

Naturally we should take IDF's word, right?

Their word verses the idf, except the idf has more evidence.

http://www.mfa.gov.il/NR/rdonlyres/E...aOperation.pdf

[bird72]

Do you even know about this conflict?

The Israeli's and Hamas were in a cease fire.

Hamas stopped firing rockets and mortars towards Israel. And infact there was a recorded drop in incidents accross the border.

The conflict started when Israel fired into the gaza strip which is legally not recogonised as Israeli terratory and when the violated the cease fire then Hamas responded back.

This is documented fact that the conflict was started by Israel when the claimed they bombed a tunnel outside of the Israeli terratory miles inside the Gaza strip carrying out a violation of the cease fire. Hamas then responded back and Israel launched a war.


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only one think, you are a liar sir............

[48Volts]

only one think, you are a liar sir............

Dude, seriously, stop being a troll and GTFO.

[NuggzTheNinja]

You're right, I wasn't there, so it didn't happen...right?

What do you gain by supporting Israeli massacres of civilians since 1947? Just wondering. Do you think you're supporting freedom, justice, democracy??

I never understand why Americans are so in favor of Israel's racist regime.