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Help me with my Next cycle

Im planning my next cycle on oct,

I want to gain atleast 15 lbs of muscle in this cycle,

I got 3 bottles of test c, each bottle has 200mg/10ml
so thats enough for 10 weeks 600 mg a week.
Nolva tabs

but for kick start i dont have dbol but i have m14ad
i was thinking of doing 90mg for first 5 weeks as a kickstart

any advise?

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Old 08-11-2009, 05:40 PM   #2
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Im planning my next cycle on oct,

I want to gain atleast 15 lbs of muscle in this cycle,

I got 3 bottles of test c, each bottle has 200mg/10ml
so thats enough for 10 weeks 600 mg a week.
Nolva tabs

but for kick start i dont have dbol but i have m14ad
i was thinking of doing 90mg for first 5 weeks as a kickstart

any advise?

Thanks
You won't get 10 shots out of that, you'd be lucky to even get 9. I wouldn't use the p-plex if I were you.
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Old 08-11-2009, 05:44 PM   #3
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You won't get 10 shots out of that, you'd be lucky to even get 9. I wouldn't use the p-plex if I were you.
I though m14ad converts to dbol at about 13%?

what should i do? I only have 3 bottles right now
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Old 08-11-2009, 06:19 PM   #4
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I though m14ad converts to dbol at about 13%?

what should i do? I only have 3 bottles right now
I guess I'm just against all PH's. If you can get your hands on dbol, do it; 4 weeks @ 50 mg/day. If not, do some research about suppression from p-plex. I don't know much about it, but I have never taken PH's and never will.

As for only having 3 bottles, you can either take 9 shots, lower your dose, or buy more. It's your choice. But some fluid is always left in the syringe, about .1 to .2 CC. You will never get 10 shots out of what you have at that dose. If I were you, I would probably lower the dose to 500 mg.
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Old 08-12-2009, 11:53 AM   #5
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so should i get 1 more bottle?
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so should i get 1 more bottle?
If you can get it for cheap (no shipping/WU fees), go ahead. If you can't, then you need to drop the dose. It's up to you though, I gave you the options in my last post; decide for yourself.
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im also against PHs

think abt it dude, if 13% converts to dbol, what does the other 87% convert to?

imo if you really want to push it, run this

1-4 dbol 50mg/day
8-12 dbol 50mg/day
1-14 test 600mg/week
1-12 EQ 400mg/week with frontload at 800mg/week for the first 2 weeks.

pct starts week 16

keep in mind that you dont always need to do something this "pimped out" and high in dosage (1350mg/week total on dbol weeks), but its not insane either.

the 4 weeks off from dbol should give your liver time to detox, and the EQ should really help with appettite and collagen synthesis in the joints, good things in a bulk. ofcourse, the test is the main mass builder here.

keep in mind in the 2nd dbol period, you can take it all at once preworkout to help with strength and intensity. in the 1st dbol period i recommend 2 dosings, since the test and EQ wont have kicked in yet.

this followed by a nice conservative cut(like an 8weeker based on prop) in spring should give you a very productive year.

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im also against PHs

think abt it dude, if 13% converts to dbol, what does the other 87% convert to?

imo if you really want to push it, run this

1-4 dbol 50mg/day
8-12 dbol 50mg/day
1-14 test 600mg/week
1-12 EQ 400mg/week with frontload at 800mg/week for the first 2 weeks.

pct starts week 16

keep in mind that you dont always need to do something this "pimped out" and high in dosage (1350mg/week total on dbol weeks), but its not insane either.

the 4 weeks off from dbol should give your liver time to detox, and the EQ should really help with appettite and collagen synthesis in the joints, good things in a bulk. ofcourse, the test is the main mass builder here.

keep in mind in the 2nd dbol period, you can take it all at once preworkout to help with strength and intensity. in the 1st dbol period i recommend 2 dosings, since the test and EQ wont have kicked in yet.

this followed by a nice conservative cut(like an 8weeker based on prop) in spring should give you a very productive year.

Thanks for advise
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I got 3 bottles of test c, each bottle has 200mg/10ml
so thats enough for 10 weeks 600 mg a week.
Nolva tabs
I think you'd be better off going with 12weeks @ 500mg, just my opinion.

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but for kick start i dont have dbol but i have m14ad
i was thinking of doing 90mg for first 5 weeks as a kickstart
I as well am anti-PH so if you can get your hands on dbol I think it'd be worth it. If you can't I'd honestly just run test only.
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I think you'd be better off going with 12weeks @ 500mg, just my opinion.


I as well am anti-PH so if you can get your hands on dbol I think it'd be worth it. If you can't I'd honestly just run test only.

Ok ill toss the PH, ill just run test by it self then ) Thanks
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