I was talking to some guy I know on AIM, and he thinks that if you do DISTANCE running that your legs will get strong. Ya know, running a few miles, maybe for a half hour, will make your legs stronger. I told him no it won't make your legs stronger, because all you get is endurance; you're working the slow twich muscles, and in fact you could lose some muscle and strength due to distance running. I was a former high school cross country runner, I think I have some idea.
I just need some more opinions so maybe he will listen.
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04-18-2003, 03:29 AM #1
Please tell me running doesn't make your legs STRONGER
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04-18-2003, 07:01 AM #3
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Originally posted by Damien
fcourse it makes you stronger.
look at the marathon runners and olympic runners n stuff.
they run and run and run and i think their legs are damn strong and not too small.
They might be bigger, nobody said they dont get a little bigger, but they dont get stronger, they get more endurance, but olympic runners do weight train, look at maurice green,
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04-18-2003, 07:14 AM #4
Re: Please tell me running doesn't make your legs STRONGER
Originally posted by MJSbossman
I was talking to some guy I know on AIM, and he thinks that if you do DISTANCE running that your legs will get strong. Ya know, running a few miles, maybe for a half hour, will make your legs stronger. I told him no it won't make your legs stronger, because all you get is endurance; you're working the slow twich muscles, and in fact you could lose some muscle and strength due to distance running. I was a former high school cross country runner, I think I have some idea.
I just need some more opinions so maybe he will listen.
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04-18-2003, 08:29 AM #7
Think about it..why are all marathon runners skinny as hell and weight maybe 106lbs.....however all short distance runners (under 1600m) have massive legs.....especially 100m runners.
Totally different mindset. All that running totally burns away muscle and fat, they are left with TIGHT STRONG muscles, but visiably small.
Short distance runners need explosive size and strength to run for 8-9 seconds.
In any case, I am sure alot of those runners have HUGE amounts of force in their small little muscle legs.
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04-18-2003, 08:44 AM #9
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Originally posted by pazza
Yes long distance running with make you legs very endurance strong. But wont do anything for absolute or explosive strength.I've seen a 15 year old deadlift 440 lbs. first time ever touching a weight
I've witnessed a begginer increase there total 350 lbs. the first month
I myself can show you men bench pressing 821 lbs. men deadlifting nearly 940 lbs. men squatting 1104 lbs.
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04-18-2003, 09:35 AM #10
The difference is the range of motion. When you run you are not going to get nearly the range of motion you would get in a squat. And the reason why marathon runners are so small is so that they don't have too much weight to push along. They want all the muscle mass on their legs. That way the strength to weight ratio is much better.
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04-18-2003, 09:44 AM #11
remember, there are five types of strength:
maximal strength
strength endurance
speed strength
explosive strength
accelerating strength
in a way, they could be right. its all about sport specificity. if they're saying that them running marathons will give them a bigger squat, then they'll probably be wrong
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04-18-2003, 10:25 AM #12
I'm talking about absolute strength.
Yes, sprinting will make your legs stronger and more explosive.
But don't tell me your max squat will immprove by running for a half hour at a slow pace.
And marathon runners that run marathons in 2:07 are freaks, they train at sub 5 minute mile pace for a lot of their training, and they run sub 5 mile miles for 26 straight miles. I'm talking about the average person who does nothing to supplement their distance running.
I seriously don't think you're legs don't get "bigger" by running, they might get more defined. I had STICK legs during cross country, which made it hard to start doing squats after cross country season. If it helps, why don't we run a few miles? Oh wait maybe for recovery19 years old, 6', 210lbs (11%bf)
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04-18-2003, 12:15 PM #14Originally posted by WQ87
Can you define them, plz?
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04-18-2003, 12:21 PM #15
Re: Re: Re: Please tell me running doesn't make your legs STRONGER
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04-18-2003, 12:23 PM #16
Re: Re: Re: Re: Please tell me running doesn't make your legs STRONGER
Originally posted by Smalley
Explain
Strength is the maximum weight your muscles can push. Even if you can do 100 pushups, it doesn't mean you can bench press a lot.
I can bench 315 at a BW 195lbs but I can't do 50 pushups.19 years old, 6', 210lbs (11%bf)
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04-18-2003, 12:50 PM #17
All right. This is a pretty dumb thing to be talking about obviously. No offense. Of course you will get stronger. You will not be a beast my any means, but you will get stronger. If you really want to be an Animal, sprint, run, lift (upper and lower body), and eat alot. There ya go.
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04-18-2003, 01:26 PM #18
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Endurance training will not make you faster, depending on the traininability and level of the person.
Speed training in turn does, it can increase starting strength and top end strength. It also increases and strength'ens the connective tissue sorounding the major joints involved in running.
There is more then 5 types of strength, and endurance can be defined as a strength quality.
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Speed-Endurance Strength
Absolute strength (the absolute rule of strength and the greatest of all strength)
Strength Endurance
As you can see endurance is a componet of strength.
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