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    Road to the Olympia: "Don't Count Me Out!" Victor Martinez Trains Legs

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    Cool video.

    I did notice that for someone who doesn't listen to what anyone says he sure does seem to focus quite a bit on what people say. It's hard to see how he looks under that clothes but it's nice to see him making a video and hopefully he'll be in great shape for the Olympia. He is definitely one of the top guys but I don't see what he could possibly do to overcome Phil or Kai. Let alone place ahead of the honorary 2nd Dexter Jackson.
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    Even if Victor brings up his thighs, his calves are genetically weak and also he cannot get that feathered look to his quads like Kai...
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    Thanks for the vid, repped!

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    Originally Posted by CloudSurfer View Post
    Even if Victor brings up his thighs, his calves are genetically weak and also he cannot get that feathered look to his quads like Kai...
    Lots of bbers have won without having the better parts such as Yates, Cutler..
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    Originally Posted by Chococat View Post
    Cool video.

    I did notice that for someone who doesn't listen to what anyone says he sure does seem to focus quite a bit on what people say. It's hard to see how he looks under that clothes but it's nice to see him making a video and hopefully he'll be in great shape for the Olympia. He is definitely one of the top guys but I don't see what he could possibly do to overcome Phil or Kai. Let alone place ahead of the honorary 2nd Dexter Jackson.
    how so?
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    Good Physique, but I just don't like his attitude. He sounds very arrogant, and seems to have some feeling that he deserves 1st place no matter what. Although the '07 O didn't go his way, he should just focus on whats happening in the present. This year is definitely going to be one of the better 'Os we've seen. Can't wait, I've got my tickets!
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    Originally Posted by kenfowler View Post
    Good Physique, but I just don't like his attitude. He sounds very arrogant, and seems to have some feeling that he deserves 1st place no matter what. Although the '07 O didn't go his way, he should just focus on whats happening in the present. This year is definitely going to be one of the better 'Os we've seen. Can't wait, I've got my tickets!
    He's confident. There seems to be a fine line between confidence and arrogance. To be a top level bodybuilder you have to think you're the best no matter what.
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    Originally Posted by TMaG82 View Post
    He's confident. There seems to be a fine line between confidence and arrogance. To be a top level bodybuilder you have to think you're the best no matter what.
    Maybe. I mean, I just get a different vibe when I see Heath or Cutler speaking about competitions or training. It could be the accent though (if that makes sense).
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    Originally Posted by frank8880 View Post
    lol wut? so does dexter have good calves?
    Maybe its the agle of the pics or the lighting or whatever...BUT I was thinking a couple days ago that I have never seen a good calve on any of the pros on stage? Seems that off season or out of the light they look larger?

    I think that is one of the hardest parts to bring up well enough to say WOW to..
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    youve never seen a pro with calves that makes you go wow?
    your not looking hard enough

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    Originally Posted by Animal_B View Post
    youve never seen a pro with calves that makes you go wow?
    your not looking hard enough

    I have never seen "on stage" any pros calves look that good. I have seen pics posted on here a thousand times and they look small and smooth. You know how everyone comments on Flex's calves? Thats what they all normally look like from the pics I see.

    Those pics you posted are great though..
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    Originally Posted by mikieson View Post
    Maybe its the agle of the pics or the lighting or whatever...BUT I was thinking a couple days ago that I have never seen a good calve on any of the pros on stage? Seems that off season or out of the light they look larger?

    I think that is one of the hardest parts to bring up well enough to say WOW to..
















    I do kind of agree. I mean, Kai, Jay and (especially) Branch have some freaky ass calves, but they do need to be unbelievable just to 'pop' out on stage.
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    Originally Posted by mikieson View Post
    Lots of bbers have won without having the better parts such as Yates, Cutler..
    That's right, Yates didn't have better parts...

    Wait wut?

    I honestly don't understand why people don't appreciate Cutler, IMO he deserved it very much in 2006 and definitely pushed Ronnie over the years since 2001 like nobody else did.
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    Originally Posted by stealth_swimmer View Post
    how so?
    00:09 "What did you think, I wasn't coming back? Don't count me out clowns, come on."

    01:42 "So, people think I should have to do something different but, all I needed was recovery time."

    02:13 "What people say they gonna always say I mean I don't really listen. I don't chat, I don't listen to pretty much anybody."

    04:30 "You know, I love bodybuilding I just don't know if bodybuilding loves me."

    04:45 "Victor loves to be an underdog. And now that he's an underdog again I think those guys should be watching out. Because I know they haven't mentioned him and they have in a way counted him out."

    07:47 "And people counting me out, I mean, I been being counted out since I was born.(laugh) My father counted me out. I mean, so if I don't know you and you count me out it don't mean ****. Cause I don't know you, and you don't know me."

    I don't really care. I think he's a great bodybuilder but I think the incredible progress that Heath and Kai Greene have made have, unless I see different left him behind. Those two guys have left a bunch of guys behind. During the video it just seemed like he had more of a chip on his shoulder than he was genuinely confident.

    When I see Heath's video I think wow, that guy is in control, down to earth and pretty confident. I saw Kai's video and again, very down to earth, friendly and confident. Victor Martinez however sounds a little bitter. Maybe it's just that he's been through a lot and I understand that personalities, pressure and dieting can make the nicest guys sound less than upbeat and friendly.

    I do wish him the best and I hope he does great but right now my money is on either Phil Heath or Kai Greene.
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    The man is coming back from a career ending injury and his sister was just murdered.

    For those of you judging him by this video alone:

    1. Give the man a break.
    2. Don't make a judgment from one video about someone, for someone posting in the IFBB section slamming a pro you sure have little knowledge about Vic's personality and obviously haven't seen the many other videos he has out.
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    Originally Posted by x800venom View Post
    The man is coming back from a career ending injury and his sister was just murdered.

    For those of you judging him by this video alone:

    1. Give the man a break.
    2. Don't make a judgment from one video about someone, for someone posting in the IFBB section slamming a pro you sure have little knowledge about Vic's personality and obviously haven't seen the many other videos he has out.


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    This guy is a true gym warrior.
    Of course i'm rooting for Heath but i would really like to see Vic winning the whole thing.
    What this guy went throught in the last few years,make me really wanna see him winning.
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    Originally Posted by Chococat View Post
    00:09 "What did you think, I wasn't coming back? Don't count me out clowns, come on."

    01:42 "So, people think I should have to do something different but, all I needed was recovery time."

    02:13 "What people say they gonna always say I mean I don't really listen. I don't chat, I don't listen to pretty much anybody."

    04:30 "You know, I love bodybuilding I just don't know if bodybuilding loves me."

    04:45 "Victor loves to be an underdog. And now that he's an underdog again I think those guys should be watching out. Because I know they haven't mentioned him and they have in a way counted him out."


    Every single one of those things could've been after just listening ONCE to what people were saying after his Arnold Classic placing. So it doesn't really contradict when he says "I don't really listen" since he didn't say "I never listen"
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    Originally Posted by SickBoy_Cage View Post
    This guy is a true gym warrior.
    Of course i'm rooting for Heath but i would really like to see Vic winning the whole thing.
    What this guy went throught in the last few years,make me really wanna see him winning.
    x2 i dont think anyone would be upset if he wins it
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    Originally Posted by BigChamp89 View Post
    x2 i dont think anyone would be upset if he wins it
    People talk at how much Kai deserve it but Look at Vic.
    In 2007 like 4 or 5 weeks out his mom died,he got screwed out of the title in the same year. In 2008 when he goes as the favorite for the AC & possibly the favorite for the Olympia,he has a major ending carrer injurie. He wins over the injurie,now his sister gets brutally murdered.
    Kai had to work and do some nasty stuff to pursuit his dream but it's no different then some of the other bodybuilders had to do or keep doing it to pursuit their dreams but what Vic went throught,that's the real deal.
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    Originally Posted by SickBoy_Cage View Post
    People talk at how much Kai deserve it but Look at Vic.
    In 2007 like 4 or 5 weeks out his mom died,he got screwed out of the title in the same year. In 2008 when he goes as the favorite for the AC & possibly the favorite for the Olympia,he has a major ending carrer injurie. He wins over the injurie,now his sister gets brutally murdered.
    Kai had to work and do some nasty stuff to pursuit his dream but it's no different then some of the other bodybuilders had to do or keep doing it to pursuit their dreams but what Vic went throught,that's the real deal.
    x2. people here who think hes arrogant obviously dont know what hes been through his career especially last few years, they dont know much about him because they count him out like he says.....

    i think thats what he means when he says he deserves the title to, he should have never lost in 2007. im sure any bodybuilding is satisfied with just one olympia win
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    Good Physique, but I just don't like his attitude. He sounds very arrogant, and seems to have some feeling that he deserves 1st place no matter what. Although the '07 O didn't go his way, he should just focus on whats happening in the present.
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    Maybe. I mean, I just get a different vibe when I see Heath or Cutler speaking about competitions or training. It could be the accent though (if that makes sense).
    u dont remember they way cutler used to speak prior to finally winning it? he always used to say he got screwed. watch him get interviewed backstage at the 2005, even when ronnie was the clear winner.

    its extreme to be at the top & its the mindset that comes with the territory.

    yeh vic does seem to have a chip, going all the way back to his father's attitude towards him, but some guys just use that as fuel to get better & better & love proving ppl wrong. others let it consume them & destroy them, so u cant really conclude much from it until we see the result.
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    Watch Cutler's latest DVD, he says that Dexter didn't win the 2008 Olympia and that basically he gave it away to Dex.

    I've talked to Victor frequently and see him a few times a week and he's one of the more approachable pro athletes that I know. Other athletes doesn't seem to want to give you the time of day and have this aura about them that they're better than you are but Victor is one of the more genuine guys that I know.
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