has anyone else experience a change in their stamina?

[gabuilder]

ok alittle background: 6months ago started test. replacement therapy. 31 yrs weight 198lbs. went to the doctor for fatigue/mood swings/loss of strength only. no sex problems. first blood work came back test. low like 228. she started dosage (which i was only receiving once a month) 3 months later another blood work came back and my test. had drop'd even lower 198. so she increased dosage to 2cc once a month. once she had done this i noticed a drop in stamina. never had any kind of problems in this area. i was able to go for 30 min. or so. so i told her bout this problem my last visit and she decided to write a prescription for testosterone (cypionate) which i administer every 2 weeks 1ml. its been almost 2 weeks since that visit and my stamina has not changed.she administerd 1ml then. so i am comming up on my injection. like i said i had no problems w/ any sexual funtions. but now im like a teenager who just got his first piece. very depressing going from someone who could last 30 min or more to 1-3min. and my recovery time is bad.as my body gets use to the test. i have been lacking will this resolve itself? or is there anything i can take to help? need some help guys. also shouldnt i see an increase in strength and motivation and muscle build?

[pmgamer18]

I am not sure your Dr. knows how to treat low Testosterone first one needs to find out why they were low to start with. A lot of Dr.'s will have nothing to do with treating low T and others jump into TRT to dam fast with out doing the tests need to find out why.

I can tell your Dr. is not up on this because doing shots every month is very old even the AACE Guildlines starte on page 11 to do shots every 7 to 10 days to keep one leveled and off a roller coaster ride up after this dam big shot only to fall very low even less then you started with. It's the low levels that make us feel bad and doing big dam shots like this driver up Estradiol E2 levels this messes with ones sex life some men get PME when levels of E2 get on the high side then as they go up we get some ED and can't reach an orgasm.
Go to Dr. John's site at www.allthingsmale.com and read TRT: A Recipe for Success and his HCG Update in this are labs you need and why and how to do TRT he puts this out there free for us and the Dr.'s.
http://www.aace.com/pub/pdf/guidelines/hypogonadism.pdf

Now you need to test your Estradiol levels and if to high over 40 pg/ml best at 20 get them down with some Arimidex doing a 1/4 of a pill .25 mgs every 2 to 3 days.

[gabuilder]

Originally Posted by pmgamer18

I am not sure your Dr. knows how to treat low Testosterone first one needs to find out why they were low to start with. A lot of Dr.'s will have nothing to do with treating low T and others jump into TRT to dam fast with out doing the tests need to find out why.

I can tell your Dr. is not up on this because doing shots every month is very old even the AACE Guildlines starte on page 11 to do shots every 7 to 10 days to keep one leveled and off a roller coaster ride up after this dam big shot only to fall very low even less then you started with. It's the low levels that make us feel bad and doing big dam shots like this driver up Estradiol E2 levels this messes with ones sex life some men get PME when levels of E2 get on the high side then as they go up we get some ED and can't reach an orgasm.
Go to Dr. John's site at www.allthingsmale.com and read TRT: A Recipe for Success and his HCG Update in this are labs you need and why and how to do TRT he puts this out there free for us and the Dr.'s.
http://www.aace.com/pub/pdf/guidelines/hypogonadism.pdf

Now you need to test your Estradiol levels and if to high over 40 pg/ml best at 20 get them down with some Arimidex doing a 1/4 of a pill .25 mgs every 2 to 3 days.

thank you very sound advice --i believe i will find a new doctor . i have felt that she dosent fully understand test therapy.

[Decapolis]

Originally Posted by gabuilder

thank you very sound advice --i believe i will find a new doctor . i have felt that she dosent fully understand test therapy.

Very good advice Phil.

My Urologist prescribed 400mg of test per week. I went, got the script filled and inject myself with 2x a week @60mgs. This was the 3rd doctor I had been to that was supposed to be up on TRT and was tired of them scratching their heads when it came to this subject. 200mgs a month, 300mgs every 3 weeks and 400mgs a week was what I was told from 3 different doctor's.

Best advice I can give you is educate yourself. These forums, the one pmgamer18 mentioned and http://forum.anabolic-authority.com/ are all great. Become a member and don't be afraid to ask away. There are some really good vets like pmgamer18 that have seen a lot during their years of TRT that can provide some great advice.

Best of luck

O and go Gators!

[gabuilder]

Originally Posted by Decapolis

Very good advice Phil.

My Urologist prescribed 400mg of test per week. I went, got the script filled and inject myself with 2x a week @60mgs. This was the 3rd doctor I had been to that was supposed to be up on TRT and was tired of them scratching their heads when it came to this subject. 200mgs a month, 300mgs every 3 weeks and 400mgs a week was what I was told from 3 different doctor's.

Best advice I can give you is educate yourself. These forums, the one pmgamer18 mentioned and http://forum.anabolic-authority.com/ are all great. Become a member and don't be afraid to ask away. There are some really good vets like pmgamer18 that have seen a lot during their years of TRT that can provide some great advice.

Best of luck

O and go Gators!

GREAT GREAT ADVICE YOU SEEM'D TO HAVE ALOT ON KNOWLEDGE AND I TOTALLY AGREE 'D WITH YOU UNTIL THE GO GATORs!! LOL SERIOUSLY I APPRECIATE ALL THE INFO . IS THERE ANYTHING I CAN GET TO HELP WITH THE STAMINA? OR IS THAT A SIDEEFFECT OF TRT? EVRY1 TALKS ABOUT HAVIN GREAT SEX-WHICH I NEVER HAD AN ISSUE WITH THAT BUT WAS HOPE'N TO TURN INTO A PORN STAR HAHA.... BUT NOW IM JUST HOPEN TO GET BACK TO MY OLD SELF----THX

[Legbuh]

Hold off before finding another doc. Why?

You found a doc willing to RX test. Besides wellness clinics, if this is a GP, Endo, etc.. than take the time to educate them, not throw them out.

Finding a doc that will RX test (at the very least) is one in a million. Well, maybe 1000.

Educate yourself, then point your doc to sites, papers, etc. In a way that doesn't make them feel like "you just got theinfo on the net".

Dr. Crisler will work WITH your doc. So maybe that's a good start.

[gabuilder]

Originally Posted by Legbuh

Hold off before finding another doc. Why?

You found a doc willing to RX test. Besides wellness clinics, if this is a GP, Endo, etc.. than take the time to educate them, not throw them out.

Finding a doc that will RX test (at the very least) is one in a million. Well, maybe 1000.

Educate yourself, then point your doc to sites, papers, etc. In a way that doesn't make them feel like "you just got theinfo on the net".

Dr. Crisler will work WITH your doc. So maybe that's a good start.

you know ive never thought bout it that way. ive heard findn a doc to prescribe test. injections is hard. and honestly i went in hopen mine was alittle low so i could get some lol .. she is actually my family practice doc. it wasnt right away gettn the test. shots it took a few months but she came around to her administern them to me but now ive gotten prescripts to do it myself. cause correct me if im wrong rx test. is the best so called steroid for muscle growth/strength?

[pmgamer18]

Hey I did this with my Dr. I use today he sent me to see an Endo that knew less then he did this A hole took me off TRT let me crash and I ended up back to my Dr. in worse shape. I then told my Dr. hell your all ready a Dr. how long would it take you to get up on this and be able to treat me. I then gave him a copy of Dr. John's "TRT: A Recipe for Success and his HCG Update for starters. Today he is one of the best TRT Dr.'s in my area and now treats a dam lot of men. Go to the forum I help out at they have a links and files section full of info no other site has you will find a ton of info read them give them to your Dr. get up on this the both of you it's dam hard to find a good Dr. and Endo's are not them.
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/hypogonadism2/
Here is one great link I tell everyone to read that comes from the forum.
http://www.griffinmedical.com/male_h...n_therapy.html

The best way to fix your sex life is to get leveled off get your levels up into the upper 1/3 of your labs range and keep your Estradiol down to about 20 pg/ml this will give you back your night time and morning wood if you lost them and do some HCG shots to keep your testis working.

Originally Posted by gabuilder

you know ive never thought bout it that way. ive heard findn a doc to prescribe test. injections is hard. and honestly i went in hopen mine was alittle low so i could get some lol .. she is actually my family practice doc. it wasnt right away gettn the test. shots it took a few months but she came around to her administern them to me but now ive gotten prescripts to do it myself. cause correct me if im wrong rx test. is the best so called steroid for muscle growth/strength?