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Pubmed study mentions resveratrol

The study is below. I do not understand what this means, something about resveratrol not being anti-estrogenic (like some other serms) and being a wild type. does any one know what a "wild type" serm is? and how is behaves?

from the research I have done nothing is mentioned of resveratrol being as effective as the others. In fact, this is the first study I have seen that mention other serms with resveratrol.


Gene expression profiles with activation of the estrogen receptor alpha-selective estrogen receptor modulator complex in breast cancer cells expressing wild-type estrogen receptor.

Levenson AS, Svoboda KM, Pease KM, Kaiser SA, Chen B, Simons LA, Jovanovic BD, Dyck PA, Jordan VC.
Robert H. Lurie Comprehensive Cancer Center, The Fineberg School of Medicine, Northwestern University, Chicago, Illinois 60611, USA. a-levenson@northwestern.edu
Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulators (SERMs) are a new class of drugsthat bind to estrogen receptor (ER) and elicit agonistic or antagonistic responses, depending on the target tissue. We have developed an in vitro system in which some SERMs (4-hydroxytamoxifen and resveratrol) demonstrate estrogenic response through wild-type (wt) ER, whereas others (raloxifene and GW7604) remain antiestrogenic. This system mimics the tamoxifen-resistant phenotype in clinic, when resistant tumors contain wtER. We used Atlas cDNA arrays to study gene expression profiles after ER activation by different SERMs in MDA-MB-231 human breast cancer cells stably transfected with wtER. Cells were treated with estradiol, four different SERMs, and the pure antiestrogen ICI 182,780. The obtained expression data were analyzed using GeneSpring software. Real-time reverse transcription-PCR was used to verify the array data. Our results showed that treatment with various compounds altered the expression of a diverse group of genes, revealing sets of overlapping genes that may represent a complex network of genes of interrelated signal transduction pathways. Sets of "agonistic" and "antagonistic" genes were identified on the basis of the known response to different SERMs. Further analysis of selected sets of genes revealed functionally related group of genes in each set, encoding proteins that were related to cell proliferation, survival, and apoptosis. Flow cytometry data indicated an antiapoptotic activity in cells treated with agonists versus apoptotic activity in cells treated with antagonists. A model for estradiol-like (survival) and antiestrogen-like (apoptosis) activities of SERMs on the basis of their gene expression profiles is suggested.
PMID: 12154049 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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"wild type" refers to the gene that codes (is the blueprint) for the ER (estrogen receptor), normal cells have "wild type" ER genes that encode for normal functioning estrogen receptors that will respond to SERMS, in breast cancers if the tumor cells have "wild type" ER's then the patient will respond to drugs such as tamoxifen. Some cancers however have mutated versions of the ER gene (not wild type) and such cancers usually do not respond to treatment with SERMS (Tamox etc...)

Anyways I wont go into the details of this study as I feel it has no bearing on the usefulness of SERMS (like reservatrol) in the bodybuilding community and is only cancer related.


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Anyways I wont go into the details of this study as I feel it has no bearing on the usefulness of SERMS (like reservatrol) in the bodybuilding community and is only cancer related.


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are you saying you think resveratrol is in the same catagory as other serms, clomid, tax, rali etc and increasing testosterone levels like the others do thoough serm actions?

I do not know I think resveratrol could do something but not as strong as the others. again, I have not come across studies for resveratrol acting to boost testosterone.
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Resveratrol acts as a ER antagonist (in certain tissues) and hence it being used as a SERM in this study, I am almost sure it is in no way as effective as prescription only medications (such as tamox), but i am no expert in the field of different SERM, my expertise lies mostly in the fields of genetics and molecular biology.
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