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Old 07-31-2009, 03:40 PM   #1
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Question GOOD preworkout NO drink/supp

ok,so ive tried sooo many preworkout NO supps: no xplode, shock therapy, maximize, NO fury, superpump, white flood caps, gakic caps and acouple of others with decent but decreasing results. obviously im going to take a month or so off of using stimulants so my body can become sensitive again but i want something that will really kick me in the ass. any otehr suggestions i didnt list? ive yet to try NO shotgun. yay or nay? or anything else.suggestions please. thanks!
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Old 07-31-2009, 03:42 PM   #2
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Old 07-31-2009, 03:48 PM   #3
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o yea i forgot to add that to the list i tried too lol.thanks though
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Old 07-31-2009, 03:50 PM   #4
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o yea i forgot to add that to the list i tried too lol.thanks though
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Old 07-31-2009, 03:55 PM   #5
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To the OP: I have NO Shotgun v3, had it for a while, not a big fan. Some days it has given me some decent energy, other days nothing at all. The taste is really not very good imo. That said it does have a lot of protein in it, so it may actually help muscle growth more than most other Pre's. I personally don't care much for it but I know some people who rave over it *shrug*. We all have different reactions to diff supps.

EDIT> Forgot to mention that the most impressive results I've seen on a pre so far have come from Cryoshock. It's new and quite expensive... but it gave me CRAZY recovery and endurance, 10-30% gains on my ab workout (which is shocking, never had any major gains on abs from any prev product as I work em every day and feel like it's hard for me to gain much quickly, but I got DOMS in my obliques/abs from cryoshock!). You may be able to get a sample still from them. The price is putting me off though atm... which is why I'm still in the market for a pre.



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Dark Rage by MHP. The stuff taste like total crap but it gets me wired for even hours after my workout. Its made to put on size but if youre looking to get lean, NO shotgun is the way to go. Great pumps and it has redline in it. All my buddies love it.

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its been a while since ive tookin some pre workout stuff but out of the ones ive tried before, the strongest stuff ive had was ragnarok. the pumps i got were f*ckin insane and tons of energy but after my workout i had the worst crash, i felt like sh*t. i might try out the stim free version sometime
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its been a while since ive tookin some pre workout stuff but out of the ones ive tried before, the strongest stuff ive had was ragnarok. the pumps i got were f*ckin insane and tons of energy but after my workout i had the worst crash, i felt like sh*t. i might try out the stim free version sometime
Im surprised to see it made you crash, i've rarely heard that from anyone...so i'm sorry to hear it!

I think the caff free version would be a great product for you to try
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