Ice cream when short on fats for the day?

[nocal00]

Alright so I know that there's good fats and then just fats. However, if I am low on fats for the day, would eating something like ice cream be alright? I mean I know it's not good when you don't consume enough fats so would this be alright? Obviously I am talking about ignoring other aspects like the sugar but just fats wise, does this make sense?

[RandyJH]

Sure, its fine as long as it isnt your only source of fat. Ice cream is dandy.

[RapidFiyah]

If you want some focking Ice Cream, have some focking Ice Cream.

Don't try to make excuses to have Ice Cream, just have some focking Ice Cream.

[snorkelman]

I agree with both of the above comments. Don't try and justify that the fats in ice cream are somehow essential fats, such as salmon or nuts.

[OldManFerg]

Alright so I know that there's good fats and then just fats. However, if I am low on fats for the day, would eating something like ice cream be alright? I mean I know it's not good when you don't consume enough fats so would this be alright? Obviously I am talking about ignoring other aspects like the sugar but just fats wise, does this make sense?

Don't eat icecream. It's the worst type of fat combined with nothing but sugar.
Absolute junk

[AtomAnt70]

If you're worried about getting enough fat you're much better off eating some almonds or walnuts to get your fats because these have unsaturated fats instead of saturated along with more protein than ice cream and fiber and minerals without the added sugar.

[lee__d]

Don't eat icecream. It's the worst type of fat combined with nothing but sugar.
Absolute junk

it is? what's you're opinion on the fat in whole milk then?

[Cryotek]

Spoon + Peanut Butter

[OldManFerg]

it is? what's you're opinion on the fat in whole milk then?

That it is primarily consists of saturated fat, which is terrible for you.

How are you going to defend something that is nothing but sugar and fat? (Talking ice cream)

[FunkDaddy]

Well if you are counting calories, you shouldn't "ignore the other aspects like sugar" unless I misunderstood what that meant

[dimasso69]

That it is primarily consists of saturated fat, which is terrible for you.

How are you going to defend something that is nothing but sugar and fat? (Talking ice cream)

Milk+Eggs+Fruit+Cream=Gelato
Saturated fat is fine for you..why is it bad?? Prove it to me.
Sugars aren't bad..you eat them in fruit..now ice cream is not as good as fruits as a subsitute but eat your fruits and veges..and have some ice cream too..won't kill your diet i promise. So what makes ice cream so bad? I think it's when you see sugars+fats in the same thing you panic.

[OldManFerg]

Milk+Eggs+Fruit+Cream=Gelato
Saturated fat is fine for you..why is it bad?? Prove it to me.
Sugars aren't bad..you eat them in fruit..now ice cream is not as good as fruits as a subsitute but eat your fruits and veges..and have some ice cream too..won't kill your diet i promise. So what makes ice cream so bad? I think it's when you see sugars+fats in the same thing you panic.

You have a lot to learn. So much that I'm not even going to start to respond to that statement. I don't mean to sound rude but really... Cmon man

[lee__d]

That it is primarily consists of saturated fat, which is terrible for you.

How are you going to defend something that is nothing but sugar and fat? (Talking ice cream)

whole milk is primarily saturated fat, is it the worst fat i could ingest?

look, im not advising him to go on an all ice cream diet, but if he has a serving or two of ice cream he'll be fine.

i just reread his op seeing that he's "low on fats"...so i'll clarify by saying ice cream shouldnt be his only source of fats, but including it in a diet wuoldnt be bad

[OldManFerg]

Milk+Eggs+Fruit+Cream=Gelato
Saturated fat is fine for you..why is it bad?? Prove it to me.
Sugars aren't bad..you eat them in fruit..now ice cream is not as good as fruits as a subsitute but eat your fruits and veges..and have some ice cream too..won't kill your diet i promise. So what makes ice cream so bad? I think it's when you see sugars+fats in the same thing you panic.

I will say this tho. Don't even begin to compare man made sugar to all natural sugars found in fruit. They are nowhere near the same thing. Also, ice cream is full of unnatural chemicals such as food dye, additives and preservatives. Some icre creams have chemicals similar to embalming fluid which acts as a preservative. Read the fine print dude, if it ends in OSC it is a sugar, and if you can't pronounce it than it's a chemical. Read the label on an icecream container and you'll come across a lot of these.
As for the saturated fat comment... "Saturated fat is fine for you"??? Actually it's the leading cause of artheral scelorisis which clogs your arteries and therefore leads to the primary cause of heart disease, not to mention OBESITY.

If you really NEED icecream, than get Haagen Dazs. It is still bad for you but not as bad as most.

[OldManFerg]

whole milk is primarily saturated fat, is it the worst fat i could ingest?

look, im not advising him to go on an all ice cream diet, but if he has a serving or two of ice cream he'll be fine.

i just reread his op seeing that he's "low on fats"...so i'll clarify by saying ice cream shouldnt be his only source of fats, but including it in a diet wuoldnt be bad

Anything is fine in moderation. However, if he plans on eating ice cream every PWO than it will have highly detrimental effects in the long term.

[belairdfence99]

You have a lot to learn. So much that I'm not even going to start to respond to that statement. I don't mean to sound rude but really... Cmon man

You have much to learn. Saturated fat by itself does not suddenly give you heart disease and destroy your liver. Granted an insane amount of fat in a short period of time (Baconator or whatever) is not good for you. However, if saturated fat doesn't make up more than 1/3 of your fat intake throughout the day, which if he has a pretty good diet the rest of the day, than it will not do harm. In fact, saturated fat has been shown to help with hormone productions and such.


A simple Google search with show you this. The low-fat diet craze in the 1980's-2000's worked only partially because people lost weight. However, it was not the "cure" for their diseases by any means.
Here is what I found.

The much-maligned saturated fats-which Americans are trying to avoid-are not the cause of our modern diseases. In fact, they play many important roles in the body chemistry:

Saturated fatty acids constitute at least 50% of the cell membranes. They are what gives our cells necessary stiffness and integrity.

They play a vital role in the health of our bones. For calcium to be effectively incorporated into the skeletal structure, at least 50% of the dietary fats should be saturated.38

They lower Lp(a), a substance in the blood that indicates proneness to heart disease.39 They protect the liver from alcohol and other toxins, such as Tylenol.40

They enhance the immune system.41

They are needed for the proper utilization of essential fatty acids.
Elongated omega-3 fatty acids are better retained in the tissues when the diet is rich in saturated fats. 42

Saturated 18-carbon stearic acid and 16-carbon palmitic acid are the preferred foods for the heart, which is why the fat around the heart muscle is highly saturated.43 The heart draws on this reserve of fat in times of stress.

Short- and medium-chain saturated fatty acids have important antimicrobial properties. They protect us against harmful microorganisms in the digestive tract.
The scientific evidence, honestly evaluated, does not support the assertion that "artery-clogging" saturated fats cause heart disease.44 Actually, evaluation of the fat in artery clogs reveals that only about 26% is saturated. The rest is unsaturated, of which more than half is polyunsaturated.45

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[RapidFiyah]

That it is primarily consists of saturated fat, which is terrible for you.

How are you going to defend something that is nothing but sugar and fat? (Talking ice cream)

Saturated Fat is terrible for you?

Can you even bring up ONE randomized, controlled trial supporting what you just sad?

Surely, since you say Sat Fat is so terrible for you you must have tons of evidence on the matter, right?

If not, I'm going to have to ask you to shut the fock up and stop giving people health advice.

EDIT: This guy just stated Saturated Fat is the leading cause of Atheroclerosis, but he couldn't provide a randomized, controlled trial showing that at all.

I want him to explain to me how any type of food you ingest through your mouth (besides maybe hydrogenated oil) just goes up and clogs your arteries, he's telling this guy that eating Ice Cream every day will lead to serious problems in the future, yet he couldn't provide evidence for these, rash, bold, baseless, uneducated, misinformed, paranoid, idiotic, disillusioned claims.

Do you know the fat found the least in arterial plaques are Sat Fat and the rest are mostly Unsaturated?

Do you know that the Masai consume well over 100g + of Saturated Fat per day from Milk, Meat and Blood, consider vegetables as fodder for animals and heart disease to them is very rare?

[lee__d]

Anything is fine in moderation. However, if he plans on eating ice cream every PWO than it will have highly detrimental effects in the long term.

i don't buy it...if his overall diet is good and he decided to have a serving of ice cream pwo, i dont think the detrimental effects would be high (or even more than minute).

how would 120-200 calories (maybe 3x or 4x/week - idk how much he works out) destroy progress ?

[OldManFerg]

You have much to learn. Saturated fat by itself does not suddenly give you heart disease and destroy your liver. Granted an insane amount of fat in a short period of time (Baconator or whatever) is not good for you. However, if saturated fat doesn't make up more than 1/3 of your fat intake throughout the day, which if he has a pretty good diet the rest of the day, than it will not do harm. In fact, saturated fat has been shown to help with hormone productions and such.


A simple Google search with show you this. The low-fat diet craze in the 1980's-2000's worked only partially because people lost weight. However, it was not the "cure" for their diseases by any means.
Here is what I found.


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Yes I know all of this. I was responding more to the other statements he had made.
Like I said before, anything is fine in moderation which clearly would include saturated fats. If you over indulge in Sat Fat's than they will negatively effect your health in the long run, this would include eating ice cream after every workout. Although it would depend on the amount you ate

[blast00]

you have much to learn. Saturated fat by itself does not suddenly give you heart disease and destroy your liver. Granted an insane amount of fat in a short period of time (baconator or whatever) is not good for you. However, if saturated fat doesn't make up more than 1/3 of your fat intake throughout the day, which if he has a pretty good diet the rest of the day, than it will not do harm. in fact, saturated fat has been shown to help with hormone productions and such.


A simple google search with show you this. The low-fat diet craze in the 1980's-2000's worked only partially because people lost weight. However, it was not the "cure" for their diseases by any means.
Here is what i found.


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[OldManFerg]

Saturated Fat is terrible for you?

Can you even bring up ONE randomized, controlled trial supporting what you just sad?

Surely, since you say Sat Fat is so terrible for you you must have tons of evidence on the matter, right?

If not, I'm going to have to ask you to shut the fock up and stop giving people health advice.

EDIT: This guy just stated Saturated Fat is the leading cause of Atheroclerosis, but he couldn't provide a randomized, controlled trial showing that at all.

I want him to explain to me how any type of food you ingest through your mouth (besides maybe hydrogenated oil) just goes up and clogs your arteries, he's telling this guy that eating Ice Cream every day will lead to serious problems in the future, yet he couldn't provide evidence for these, rash, bold, baseless, uneducated, misinformed, paranoid, idiotic, disillusioned claims.

Do you know the fat found the least in arterial plaques are Sat Fat and the rest are mostly Unsaturated?

Do you know that the Masai consume well over 100g + of Saturated Fat per day from Milk, Meat and Blood, consider vegetables as fodder for animals and heart disease to them is very rare?

Cardiovascular diseases

"Diets high in saturated fat are correlated with an increased incidence of atherosclerosis and coronary heart disease according to a number of studies,"

Googled Saturated fats and that was one of the first things I read.

And take it easy dude, I can have my opinion just like you can have yours. I should also be able to express it without being told to "fock off".

[RapidFiyah]

Yes I know all of this. I was responding more to the other statements he had made.
Like I said before, anything is fine in moderation which clearly would include saturated fats. If you over indulge in Sat Fat's than they will negatively effect your health in the long run, this would include eating ice cream after every workout. Although it would depend on the amount you ate

Can you provide evidence supporting what you just said?

[OldManFerg]

Can you provide evidence supporting what you just said?

You really NEED evidence to learn that over-indulging in saturated fats can lead to heart disease and obesity??? Just go read a few things and it should become more clear

[RapidFiyah]

Cardiovascular diseases

"Diets high in saturated fat are correlated with an increased incidence of atherosclerosis and coronary heart disease according to a number of studies,"

Show me the studies, or do you just believe everything you hear, even when they are said without citations?

And take it easy dude, I can have my opinion just like you can have yours. I should also be able to express it without being told to "fock off".

When your opinion is utter bullsh*t, no you can't have it and you should just go fock off.

[dimasso69]

That it is primarily consists of saturated fat, which is terrible for you.

How are you going to defend something that is nothing but sugar and fat? (Talking ice cream)

Easily..same way you defend oats or Peanut butter..what if i told you peanut butter could be artery clogging..

You have a lot to learn. So much that I'm not even going to start to respond to that statement. I don't mean to sound rude but really... Cmon man

You are being ignorant to knowledge, i do have a lot to learn..but something like this i do know i am right, the problem is not ice cream, the problem is people don't know how to limit the consumption of it.

I will say this tho. Don't even begin to compare man made sugar to all natural sugars found in fruit. They are nowhere near the same thing. Also, ice cream is full of unnatural chemicals such as food dye, additives and preservatives. Some icre creams have chemicals similar to embalming fluid which acts as a preservative. Read the fine print dude, if it ends in OSC it is a sugar, and if you can't pronounce it than it's a chemical. Read the label on an icecream container and you'll come across a lot of these.
As for the saturated fat comment... "Saturated fat is fine for you"??? Actually it's the leading cause of artheral scelorisis which clogs your arteries and therefore leads to the primary cause of heart disease, not to mention OBESITY.

If you really NEED icecream, than get Haagen Dazs. It is still bad for you but not as bad as most.

Fructose+glucose in fruits compared to Sucrose found in ice cream which is made of fructose and glucose also..only difference micronutrients..now did i say it's good to replace fruits with ice cream..no but having fruits and then some ice cream is fine..but you would not agree it seems.

I will read off the ingredients to the coffee ice cream in my freezer
Cream, skim milk, water, sugar, egg yolk, coffee concentrate, carmelized sugar, guar gum, locust bean gum

http://www.preventionisbest.com/site....html--against sat fats..read that, maybe it'll open up your eyes

Anything is fine in moderation. However, if he plans on eating ice cream every PWO than it will have highly detrimental effects in the long term.

What would these detrimental effects be..my grandfather has eaten a doughnut a day for breakfast all his life..still living at 80 just fine..only problem he had was he lost his sense of smell which was not due to eating foods high in sat fats/sugars


You say: You really NEED evidence to learn that over-indulging in saturated fats can lead to heart disease and obesity??? Just go read a few things and it should become more clear

Then you say: Anything is fine in moderation. However, if he plans on eating ice cream every PWO than it will have highly detrimental effects in the long term

Which one is it your arguing...over indulging which yes too much can be bad..or moderation where you can have some of it..even daily and still be fine.

[RapidFiyah]

You really NEED evidence to learn that over-indulging in saturated fats can lead to heart disease and obesity??? Just go read a few things and it should become more clear

The fock?

Of course I need evidence you retard, why else would I simply believe Saturated Fat is bad for you?

I advise you read some books such as Cholesterol Con by Anthony Colpo.

EDIT: At the turn of the century many Americans would be doing what you would call "over indulging in Saturated Fat" yet Heart Disease was extremely rare back then.

[OldManFerg]

Show me the studies, or do you just believe everything you hear, even when they are said without citations?




When your opinion is utter bullsh*t, no you can't have it and you should just go fock off.

I don't want to discuss a topic with someone who approaches it in such a juvenile way. When you realize that you can approach a conversation open minded and share your knowledge than you will get a lot further in life than your close minded ignorance trying to establish dominance while saying nothing worth listening to.

[RapidFiyah]

I don't want to discuss a topic with someone who approaches it in such a juvenile way. When you realize that you can approach a conversation open minded and share your knowledge than you will get a lot further in life than your close minded ignorance trying to establish dominance while saying nothing worth listening to.

"Don't eat icecream. It's the worst type of fat combined with nothing but sugar.
Absolute junk"

""Saturated fat is fine for you"??? Actually it's the leading cause of artheral scelorisis which clogs your arteries and therefore leads to the primary cause of heart disease, not to mention OBESITY."

The above statements are misinformed bullsh*t.

I don't want to discuss the topic with you at all, you're an idiot. I'm simply asking you to provide evidence and explain how in the hell Sat Fat leads to ARTHERAL SCELORISIS.

Until you can do that however, shut the fock up.

[Krowbar]

dunno about u guys, but last time i checked, OBESITY was caused by excess calories...

[Vietgoboi]

Alright so I know that there's good fats and then just fats. However, if I am low on fats for the day, would eating something like ice cream be alright? I mean I know it's not good when you don't consume enough fats so would this be alright? Obviously I am talking about ignoring other aspects like the sugar but just fats wise, does this make sense?

1-2 consecutive days of ice cream as a substitute, shouldn't throw anyone off their nutrition.

I also done this, when short on dietary fat. Your not alone!

dunno about u guys, but last time i checked, OBESITY was caused by excess calories...

Yup, these crazing are each individual problem, not mine !