Why nobody is critiquing your workout (READ THIS before making a beginner program)

[chris1o]

good stuff !

[1fat2fit]

thanks very helpfull

[WN86]

Sounds about right, thanks for this.

[joestree]

Thank man

[Erin143]

nice post

[jimmywise]

Pretty awe inspiring post for us new to the forums guys. Not really. Same everywhere, the old hand has to piss on the new guys to show how they are bothered by people trying to learn. If someone posts their workouts, have you thought they are trying to join you in something you actually enjoy? Us noobs should be welcomed with opened arms, not pissed on. Yep, we post the exercise routine we've come up with and ask for critiques; and yes it probably sucks and sucks balls. You should take a step back from your gold bench and think in terms of being a mentor not 'that guy' standing on the hill pissing on those trying to climb. Maybe there are a lot of guys that aren't trying to be serious; I can assure you there are a lot that are trying to learn. Yep, I posted a routine and asked for critique. I received two helpful replies so far and that's motivated me to try the changes out next workout. Then I pop on your post and it does the exact opposite. The true crap post is the one that demotivates people, and that is what your post does.

[coolkidirish]

I was actually planning on making my own and I am delighted to have come across your thread!

It has really made me re-think things and I will definitely follow a pre-made one by a professional.

Thanks

[MMXFlyinSolo]

Glad I saw this. I was just about to ask for a routine critique lmao. *Grabs SS book*

[mctrader07]

Nice post.

What I got was people telling me it was awful and I needed to scrap it completely and pick up a pre-made program which was created by someone who was an expert in the weightlifting/strength training or bodybuilding field.
great post. there are times some individuals construct a workout program not realising the science behind the training. For exmaple; lets say someone worte on their routine that the would do squats, lat pull downs, chest press, and leg press on a monday. Well doing squats alone takes alot out of you its a full body commitment workout draining your gas tank. this is why people need to research what happens before they create a list. http://www.insideyourcorner.com/home2
great post alltogether
-MATT

[Farley1324]

What I got was people telling me it was awful and I needed to scrap it completely and pick up a pre-made program which was created by someone who was an expert in the weightlifting/strength training or bodybuilding field.
great post. there are times some individuals construct a workout program not realising the science behind the training. For exmaple; lets say someone worte on their routine that the would do squats, lat pull downs, chest press, and leg press on a monday. Well doing squats alone takes alot out of you its a full body commitment workout draining your gas tank. this is why people need to research what happens before they create a list. http://www.insideyourcorner.com/home2
great post alltogether
-MATT

What the heck are you talking about?

This is three stickies, very recently, you randomly posted in while spamming your URL.

Lame.

[risingphoenix73]

Wish I had stumbled into this thread 4 years ago when I first started lifting lol. Oh well. You live, you learn I guess. Thread deserved a bump anyway.

[smile1009]

Thanks for this thread. I'm new but I've actually been reading absolutely everything on this forum lol. Nutrition, exercises, motivation, etc etc. I'm trying to learn and actually make a lifestyle change but it's so overwhelming lol but I'm slowly piecing it all together and applying it to myself.

[Athanasis]

Why should I start all over my program? I hate those who tell me that they are the specialists, the authorities in telling me how to perform the exercises. Yes I agree I can modify the program so it becomes more fruitful but why do I need to drop it all together?

[TubbyNate]

Prologue:

5) Here are some excellent programs which I hope you consider looking into:

- Rippetoes aka Starting Strength: I can personally attest to this program being superb. It's designed for any novice or beginner lifter but also for more experienced lifters who might not be used to a program consisting of heavy, compound movements. This will get you strong and if your diet is in order you will get bigger.


- Bill Starr 5x5 aka Madcow 5x5: I love this one. It's for an intermediate lifter and the focus of this program is to get you strong as quickly as possible. And it works.


- HST (Hypertrophy/Strength Training): I haven't personally lifted in this style but plenty of people swear by it. This should work well for someone looking for gains in both strength and hypertrophy (ie. getting both strong and bigger muscles).


- German Volume Training: I've ran this and even having lifted for years before I ran it I was sore as a dog after pretty much every workout. DOMS doesn't necessarily mean it's working, but this is a pretty rough ride. GVT is designed to primarily make you bigger (hypertrophy).

- There are PLENTY of other programs. Here is a guide here, one of the stickies you SHOULD have already read...


- You should also venture out into the other sections, the Nutrition and Exercise ones especially (not so much the misc, you're better off not going there). I can promise you that you're going to learn a lot and help your progress if you do.

Which one of these programs is ideal for weight loss?

[ruwon]

Which one of these programs is ideal for weight loss?

Weight loss is about nutrition not training programs. It matters how much you expend VS what you take in calorie wise. I would start with the Nutrition stickies and then pick a program that suits you or you enjoy doing

[TubbyNate]

Weight loss is about nutrition not training programs. It matters how much you expend VS what you take in calorie wise. I would start with the Nutrition stickies and then pick a program that suits you or you enjoy doing

I have a calorie deficit (2038) eating plan in place to help me lose weight and after much research on the forum here, I read that lifting heavy will aid my fat loss, hence the questions about the programs..

Newbie here, this stuff is all new to me

[Farley1324]

I have a calorie deficit (2038) eating plan in place to help me lose weight and after much research on the forum here, I read that lifting heavy will aid my fat loss, hence the questions about the programs..

Newbie here, this stuff is all new to me

A calorie deficit will not "help" you lose weight....a calorie deficit is THE one and only thing that will cause you to lose weight.

Lifting heavy is more useful for minimizing muscle loss as you lose weight. Focus on diet and optionally calorie intensive exercise (like high intensity interval training) to constantly carry a calorie deficit

[SuffolkPunch]

I have a calorie deficit (2038) eating plan in place to help me lose weight and after much research on the forum here, I read that lifting heavy will aid my fat loss, hence the questions about the programs..

Newbie here, this stuff is all new to me

Your aim is to produce the exact same muscle growth stimulus that you would when gaining mass. Only in the case of cutting, the aim is more to preserve rather than build new muscle. So the type of program doesn't change except maybe to reduce the overall workload to compensate for lower energy levels (not necessary in most novice routines).

[TubbyNate]

Thanks for the advice guys.

[MarkNormak]

bump for all the ******* noobs out there on the misc who think they are experts as bodybuilding because they can do 40lb curls on each arm for 100 sets of 30 or some chit like that

[T00ley]

Hi All,

A 44 year old Noob here . Whilst I've 'used' weights and was a regular in the gym a few years ago (mainly cardio), I know I knew jack sh*t about bodybuilding before deciding and committing to changing my lifestyle. Over the past few weeks, most of my free time has been researching bodybuilding on the web and can honestly say it can be extremely confusing and daunting for a noob, due to the extensive and conflicting advice that's out there. Of course there is lots of bad advice from self proclaimed experts, but to any other noob all I can suggest is do your research thoroughly including getting to the facts from advice received AND don't be in such a rush (we cant blame someone else for our body or health just because we followed bad advice).....Eventually the bad stuff gets revealed.

Whilst I still believe I know very little compared to most on here, I now know a massive amount more than what I did a few weeks ago, nutrition, supplements, muscle groups, training methods, exercises etc. As a result, the main immediate change is my diet, no more processed food, sugars hugely reduced and the balance of protein, carbs (mostly low GI where possible) and fat is more in line with what it should be.......and guess what, in 6 weeks I dropped to a weight I'd never been since my teens/early 20's and my health has improved (recently had a blood sugar level test above high risk for diabetes, which has since reduced down to lower end of medium risk). On training, of course initially I couldn't wait and dived in to it and have already seen gains......HOWEVER, I am now more focused on getting this right. This is no excuse or negative thoughts.........my lifestyle isn't very good for training (long work hours & family with kids) so committing to the gym is not possible. Instead I now have a free weight multi gym with bench & spotters, chin up bar and dip station and my initial goal is to focus on core strength and good exercise form. As I train alone most times at the moment, the multi gym is great for lifting weights to my 1RM fairly safety but I won't risk following a lot of the free weight programs recommended as would be unsafe for me, so instead I've been following SS and the likes for correct form, using just the bar. When more confident, I'll get down the gym on days that I can so can get advice on how my form, iron out the flaws and then progress up through the weights.

I'd simply like to say a BIG THANKS to all those that give honest & meaningful advise (even those that seem short and frustrated with noobs :P), as you've all contributed towards me changing my lifestyle and improving my health. Great thread.

Tooley

[xbodybuilder]

my routine which I've made...when I first started lifting chest day was everyday lol. no such thing as deadlifts or squats in that routine. was for sure overtraining the same muscles. made little gains even as a newbie lifter. next year after wrestling I got massive....HUGE. I was doing heavy squats, deadlifts, up right rows, pull ups and focuses more on legs than any other muscle while my bench was sky rocketing.

so truth is --- you are wrong not all noobs make bad workout programs. my 1st program was absolutely amazing, I use a workout similar to it now a days. tbh I think my intensity was greater then, but I'm getting super intense now. my program was primarily leg/back/core focused. chest was a minor focus as it was always my strongest muscle group. today same thing (I haven't done deadlifts or squats in 2 months due to a knee injury but I've been doing a lot of pull ups/core training). I think I've been training core the hardest out of all. now I've been squatting/deadlifting again.

also I was very consistent. now I haven't been consistent, eating well nor workout hard. but I'm back to it and more motivated then ever to reach hopefully a 500lb deadlifts, 405 squat and a 315 bench. It's coming soon. I think I might hit a 315 bench b4 any of them lol.

[TAWS6]

Bumping.