http://stronglifts.com/madcow-5x5-training-programs/
Google it, there are lots of explanations. It's a great strength program for someone who has been lifting (correctly) for 6-12 months. If you're newer to the game, Starting Strength is probably a better program.
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07-26-2011, 07:37 AM #301All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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07-26-2011, 07:40 AM #302
If you've taken some time off, IMO, I would start slow and just play it by ear. I'm older so it usually takes me at least as many days I was off to get back on (so 2-3 months to "get back into shape" after a 2 month layoff), but I would guess a younger lifter would probably be back in a month or so.
Seeing as you posted this 2 months ago, though, I guess I'm probably a little late to the party on that. What did you end up doing, anyway?All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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07-26-2011, 09:35 AM #304
Excellent question. There are more than a few ways to hit the gym and someone can lift with different goals in mind. Some may lift for hypertrophy and focus on getting big and being lean, whereas others might focus more on heavier weight, fullbody workouts and concentrate on getting stronger. That's just two of the many ways people can train. Someone else may lift for a sport or be training to run a marathon and spend most of their time on the treadmill. For me, I'm happy being 200 pounds, fairly lean and being able to squat with 3 plates for reps with excellent form.
So what this might mean is that some scrawny idiot who is my height and weighs 50 pounds less than me might do something really stupid like talk trash over the internet to me, in the real world someone like that would **** their pants if I so much as gave him a negative glare.
Hope that clears things up for you, glad you're enjoying this thread.All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
- Arthur Schopenhauer
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08-05-2011, 09:47 AM #312
might be annoying posting this but guys is my program sh*tty?
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=136894313
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08-25-2011, 04:32 PM #316
I have been and am a Moderator on some weapon related forums. We take pride in helping new guys with even the most ridiculous questions. Nobody is paying me or the other members to he'll out and answer some questions. I think it is much easier to just take a few seconds and help out a new guy then to have this sort of thinking. Most new guys come to forums for reassurance and quick advice and/or to meet new people and make friends. If people here aren't willing to help, then what is the point of the forum?
Respectfully,
Paul Santos
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08-26-2011, 04:08 AM #317
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Great thread mate. The beginners fall victim to those 'vanity' muscles all the time without thinking about all the other muscles you have to work too. Luckily for me, as a beginner I researched what I needed to know before I even started lifting weights, and it helped that my weights at home had a chart mapped with all the exercises I could do for all the muscles. I think it is worth noting that before all beginners start out, they should at least have some idea on what they are doing.
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Good for sticky. Everyone that's a 'noob' should read read read.... knowledge is key. I've seen a lot of people who after several weeks/months give up or become frustrated because they either injure themselves, plateau, or expect results that come with years of smart training within the first two months.
Good for sticky on part of linking to example routines. Everyone that's a 'noob' should read read read.... knowledge is key. I've seen a lot of people who after several weeks/months give up or become frustrated because they either injure themselves, plateau, or expect results that come with years of smart training within the first two months.
I agree. I don't think (from what I observed) that it's the type of approach or mentality and the type of advice they want such as to critique their workout plan but it's the "HOW" they ask. Some come in, with a post count of less than 5, post their routine "I do 3x12 sets of bench press, 2 additional sets of incline bench- how do I hit 315?" In short- I think it's how they present their questions/look for advice than the actual training method they posted- that sets some people off.Last edited by pappaseb1117; 08-27-2011 at 01:36 PM.
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09-08-2011, 10:43 AM #320
haha.. good point. lots of unanswered people. i don't even bother writing something up, i was a cheerleader for 9 years and the warm up was so intensive i just try to do the same things as i had to do in high school for cheerleading twice a day and it certainly keeps one lean! maybe not necessarily for men who want to look massive of course
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09-09-2011, 06:39 AM #321
This is a great post and I think better than the sticky that's already up because the other thread doesn't emphasize cores and pre-made programs enough. I was the typical beginner this post describes, designing my own program that I thought was pretty great, only to get shot down when I posted it for feedback. Thing is I read all the stickies and did a lot of research but it just didn't sink in until I got set straight from the feedback from posters here. There are few places where one can find consolidated beginner's info, and the articles on the bb.com main site are just a disorganized and mostly worthless mess.
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10-08-2011, 03:34 PM #326
I too have built my own... 'program', and while it's working well for me so far:
1) I've done numerous things that are absolute no-no's in the structure of the program. For example, arms/shoulders on one day & back/chest the next, and heavy cardio the day after legs
2) There are too many exercises in it
Would it be unwise to augment the SS program with a couple of my own choices? My only complaint with that program is it isn't enough; it's just not rigorous or challenging enough. As it is mine includes all the exercises in Starting Strength's, but I fear my home-brewed workout will plateau in a few months or worse, I'll burn out from over-targeting muscle groups.
EDIT: "The reason why people really don't like guys altering Rippetoe's novice program is because the target audience of this program doesn't know anywhere near enough about training to make appropriate adjustments. You'll see newbs who are 135 lbs complaining about their "bicept peaks", and they want to train their upper-inner chest because it's a weak point. This is laughable simply because their entire body is one big weak link! In reality, they aren't really weak, they are simply untrained. " <-- I guess that's my answer right there; I may just plod along with my current program until Christmas break and then move to MadcowLast edited by JFablio; 10-08-2011 at 03:49 PM.
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