Stacking these two products...

Pety-Pipper · 07-27-2009, 07:18 PM

I dont know if i posted this to the right section if i did sorry!

Could you stack a Fat burnner like Animal and with a NO2 like Superpump 250 or Assult by Muscle Pharm? any of you try anything like that, if so how did it work for you? Would these be a weast?

-MSR9889- · 07-27-2009, 07:21 PM

yea, but watch the caffein. and its better to not have caffein with NO products preworkout because it makes them less effective.

TrainingACU · 07-27-2009, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pety-Pipper

I dont know if i posted this to the right section if i did sorry!

Could you stack a Fat burnner like Animal and with a NO2 like Superpump 250 or Assult by Muscle Pharm? any of you try anything like that, if so how did it work for you? Would these be a weast?

stack them for energy or fat burning, or just in general?

I ran superpump 250 for a month and 2 weeks were with animal cuts. Saw decent results, no side effects. They're both for completely different things though...so I'm not sure I understand what you're asking.

xVERITAS · 07-27-2009, 07:22 PM

Superpump is pretty much all you need for fat burning if you are cutting.

-MSR9889- · 07-27-2009, 07:24 PM

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Superpump is pretty much all you need for fat burning if you are cutting.

what?

xVERITAS · 07-27-2009, 07:26 PM

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what?

Superpump helped me burn fat while I was cutting. Pretty self explanatory. Fat burners never really helped me with anything.

-MSR9889- · 07-27-2009, 07:28 PM

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Superpump helped me burn fat while I was cutting. Pretty self explanatory. Fat burners never really helped me with anything.

so because of your completely illogical personal experience, a fat burner is not needed with superpump?

xVERITAS · 07-27-2009, 07:30 PM

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so because of your completely illogical personal experience, a fat burner is not needed with superpump?

How is my personal experience illogical? I lost fat while using SP250, how could I possibly word that differently? If you use SP250, and have your cals. under maintenance, you will lose fat...

Pety-Pipper · 07-27-2009, 07:31 PM

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stack them for energy or fat burning, or just in general?

I ran superpump 250 for a month and 2 weeks were with animal cuts. Saw decent results, no side effects. They're both for completely different things though...so I'm not sure I understand what you're asking.

Iv taken 3 cycles of superpump in the past. GREAT PRODUCT. LOVED IT! The rush it gave me at the pump and my intencity of my work out was rediculius! I saw great results with it, my diet was alot better then, then it is now.

Im on Animal cuts now, its a good product as well. It really helps me at the end of my workout when i get to my cardio, but dont feel so much when lifting. It also helps me controle my appitite during the day.

I want to stack these two for burning fat and tearing my muscle at the same time. I know No2 products are not for building muscle they are just to aid you in your training intecity but i felt when i was on superpump i was getting bigger and leaner at the time. I was getting alot stronger too.

I took some time off from the gym due to a wrist injury. Today was my frist day back. I did chest and bis, my wrist is still a little sore so i wasnt able to lift what i was able to befor. Iv gained weight in fat... I basically look like ****! LOL. but its nothing that cant be changed. Anyways, i got off topic... I want to stack those two products to really increase the intecity of my workout and the fat burning.

Im not sure if i will use the super pump, its kinda of costly appose to the Assult.

Someone mentioned to watch out for the caffine becasue it makes the No2 not that effective. What i was thinking of doing is doing my weight very early in the morning- taking the no2[ 6-7am]- then take the fat burners after my workout. I dont know if that will work. What do you guys think?

-MSR9889- · 07-27-2009, 07:31 PM

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How is my personal experience illogical? I lost fat while using SP250, how could I possibly word that differently? If you use SP250, and have your cals. under maintenance, you will lose fat...

if you use anything and have your calories under maintenance, you will lose fat... i doubt the caffein from the superpump (if any?) made any significant difference. i dont see how you could possibly compare it to a thermogenic either.

xVERITAS · 07-27-2009, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pety-Pipper

Iv taken 3 cycles of superpump in the past. GREAT PRODUCT. LOVED IT! The rush it gave me at the pump and my intencity of my work out was rediculius! I saw great results with it, my diet was alot better then, then it is now.

Im on Animal cuts now, its a good product as well. It really helps me at the end of my workout when i get to my cardio, but dont feel so much when lifting. It also helps me controle my appitite during the day.

I want to stack these two for burning fat and tearing my muscle at the same time. I know No2 products are not for building muscle they are just to aid you in your training intecity but i felt when i was on superpump i was getting bigger and leaner at the time. I was getting alot stronger too.

I took some time off from the gym due to a wrist injury. Today was my frist day back. I did chest and bis, my wrist is still a little sore so i wasnt able to lift what i was able to befor. Iv gained weight in fat... I basically look like ****! LOL. but its nothing that cant be changed. Anyways, i got off topic... I want to stack those two products to really increase the intecity of my workout and the fat burning.

Im not sure if i will use the super pump, its kinda of costly appose to the Assult.

Someone mentioned to watch out for the caffine becasue it makes the No2 not that effective. What i was thinking of doing is doing my weight very early in the morning- taking the no2[ 6-7am]- then take the fat burners after my workout. I dont know if that will work. What do you guys think?

Iceman did a log of SP250 and he lost fat AND gained LBM.

xVERITAS · 07-27-2009, 07:34 PM

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if you use anything and have your calories under maintenance, you will lose fat... i doubt the caffein from the superpump (if any?) made any significant difference. i dont see how you could possibly compare it to a thermogenic either.

I don't think you understand what I am saying, and that is the problem. I am not calling SP250 a fat burner. I am just saying, because of the rush it gives you it boosts your metabolism, aiding in fat burning. In my "illogical personal experience," as you called it, fat burners have not worked for me at all. I have cut with them and without them, and got the same results.

Pety-Pipper · 07-27-2009, 07:35 PM

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How is my personal experience illogical? I lost fat while using SP250, how could I possibly word that differently? If you use SP250, and have your cals. under maintenance, you will lose fat...

Yes that is true! you will lose weight BUT SP250 is not a fat burner. its a No2 product, its not ment to help you lose fat, its intended to increase the intensity of your workouts ex your weights, reps, could be cardio.

I lost weight to when i was on SP250 but it wasnt because of that. I was on a extreamly low carb diet. I only had 1 slice of toast in the morning a small yam before working out. The lowest i got in bf% was 15.2% from 19%.

-MSR9889- · 07-27-2009, 07:37 PM

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I don't think you understand what I am saying, and that is the problem. I am not calling SP250 a fat burner. I am just saying, because of the rush it gives you it boosts your metabolism, aiding in fat burning. In my "illogical personal experience," as you called it, fat burners have not worked for me at all. I have cut with them and without them, and got the same results.

its illogical to say you will lose the same amount of fat from superpump as from a thermogenic. i dont doubt that you lost weight, but i cant imagine that the difference made from superpump alone was significant.
what far burners have you used with no results? i have used several and almost all have dont impressive things for me.

Pety-Pipper · 07-27-2009, 07:37 PM

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I don't think you understand what I am saying, and that is the problem. I am not calling SP250 a fat burner. I am just saying, because of the rush it gives you it boosts your metabolism, aiding in fat burning. In my "illogical personal experience," as you called it, fat burners have not worked for me at all. I have cut with them and without them, and got the same results.

Some fat burners dont work for me either! if i was to compair SP250 to allmax supercuts and which one i saw more gains from... SP250!

xVERITAS · 07-27-2009, 07:38 PM

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Yes that is true! you will lose weight BUT SP250 is not a fat burner. its a No2 product, its not ment to help you lose fat, its intended to increase the intensity of your workouts ex your weights, reps, could be cardio.

I lost weight to when i was on SP250 but it wasnt because of that. I was on a extreamly low carb diet. I only had 1 slice of toast in the morning a small yam before working out. The lowest i got in bf% was 15.2% from 19%.

Hahaha I know it isn't a fat burner. I am saying it will AID in fat burning.

xVERITAS · 07-27-2009, 07:39 PM

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its illogical to say you will lose the same amount of fat from superpump as from a thermogenic. i dont doubt that you lost weight, but i cant imagine that the difference made from superpump alone was significant.
what far burners have you used with no results? i have used several and almost all have dont impressive things for me.

Scorch, Animal Cuts, Lipo6x, Hot Rox

Nothing "unusual" from any of the above.

Pety-Pipper · 07-27-2009, 07:39 PM

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Hahaha I know it isn't a fat burner. I am saying it will AID in fat burning.

Sorry i was typing away when you wrote that, only got it after breh! LOL

Pety-Pipper · 07-27-2009, 07:40 PM

Sorry to get in the middle of all this. But i just want to know if one will counter work with other? lol

xVERITAS · 07-27-2009, 07:43 PM

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Sorry to get in the middle of all this. But i just want to know if one will counter work with other? lol

I don't see why one would affect the other. I think if they are spaced out then there shouldn't be a problem. Like, fat burner in the a.m., sp250 at a 3 o'clock workout, fat burner in the evening (not too close to bed).

-MSR9889- · 07-27-2009, 07:45 PM

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Scorch, Animal Cuts, Lipo6x, Hot Rox

Nothing "unusual" from any of the above.

you got better fat loss results from superpump than scorch or animal cuts?
i do not believe that at all.

-MSR9889- · 07-27-2009, 07:46 PM

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Sorry to get in the middle of all this. But i just want to know if one will counter work with other? lol

just dont take both the fat burner and NO preworkout because the caffein lessens the effects.

xVERITAS · 07-27-2009, 07:47 PM

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you got better fat loss results from superpump than scorch or animal cuts?
i do not believe that at all.

Nope, same results. Like I said previously, I have cut with them and without them, and seen the same results. No significant fat loss. You don't have to believe me, but I'm not quite sure why I would lie about something so silly.

Pety-Pipper · 07-27-2009, 07:51 PM

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you got better fat loss results from superpump than scorch or animal cuts?
i do not believe that at all.

Dude some products just dont work for some people. Just becasue it worked for you dosnt mean it will work for the next guy. I used Lip6x and it barly did anything to me and its apparently one of the best fat burners out there and they got some bogus award for it. I didnt like, Animal cuts is better. Iv used Hydroxy Cut24, and i havnt found another fat burner like it. If anything could come close to that it would be animal cuts. Just becasue its a supplement it doesnt mean its going to work for everyone. Its all trial and error man.

-MSR9889- · 07-27-2009, 07:51 PM

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Nope, same results. Like I said previously, I have cut with them and without them, and seen the same results. No significant fat loss. You don't have to believe me, but I'm not quite sure why I would lie about something so silly.

it just makes absolutely no sense, especially having used two of the more widely used, tested, and recommended products from reputable companies.
and to say based on your unfortunate results that superpump is all that someone needs on a cut is ridiculous, regardless of your individual results.

-MSR9889- · 07-27-2009, 07:53 PM

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Dude some products just dont work for some people. Just becasue it worked for you dosnt mean it will work for the next guy. I used Lip6x and it barly did anything to me and its apparently one of the best fat burners out there and they got some bogus award for it. I didnt like, Animal cuts is better. Iv used Hydroxy Cut24, and i havnt found another fat burner like it. If anything could come close to that it would be animal cuts. Just becasue its a supplement it doesnt mean its going to work for everyone. Its all trial and error man.

if he didnt get results thats fine, but to compare superpump to a thermogenic is just beyond my comprehension when discussing fat loss.

Pety-Pipper · 07-27-2009, 07:59 PM

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if he didnt get results thats fine, but to compare superpump to a thermogenic is just beyond my comprehension when discussing fat loss.

True you cant compare them using them as fat lose aiders. Ones a thermogentic other is a No2. But i know what he means when he says losing weight.

I find that you can use SP250 for either or- Building muscle or decreasing Body Fat%.
If you were to have diet above maitance cal intake while using SP no doubt you will build, if you have it below you will lose BF. I know this becasue me and my buddy took it at the same time with diff goals. i wanted to lose fat he wanted to build. Like i said i went from 19% to 15.2% on SP250 with a SOLID diet and good 1.5 hrs at the gym.