MILK "things you should know"

[gympumpinjunkie]

Milk is not intended for human consumption period!


AIDS and Leukemia Viruses


Dairy cattle are infected with bovine immunodeficiency viruses (BIV) and bovine leukemia viruses (BLV), worldwide. (Bovine immunodeficiency viruses can also be properly referred to as bovine AIDS viruses.)

In the United States, results show an average 40% of beef herds and 64% of dairy herds are infected with BIV.5

In Canada6-7, the infection rate is 70% and in Argentina8 the rate is 84% for BLV.

Herds infected with the BIV are usually infected with the leukemia virus (BLV) also.5

Both viruses can cross species lines thus infecting other animals, like sheep, goats, and chimpanzees ? and they develop disease.5

Nationwide and worldwide, leukemia is more common in the higher dairy consuming populations.9,10

An increased incidence of leukemia has been found among dairy farmers in multiple studies.11-14

BIV infection has been reported in a person.15

The bovine leukemia virus has been classified in the same group as the Human T-cell Leukemia/Lymphotropic virus type 1 (HTLV-1), which is known to cause leukemia and lymphomas in humans (Adult T-cell leukemia/lymphoma).16

BIV is structurally and genetically closely related to human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) type-1 (the virus causing human AIDS).17

Pasteurization kills many types of microorganisms, but it is not foolproof. There is also concern that pasteurization may break the viruses into fragments that may become even more dangerous.18

DISEASES CAUSED BY, OR LINKED TO, DAIRY PROTEINS

General:
Loss of appetite, growth retardation.

Upper Gastrointestinal:
Canker sores (aphthous stomatitis), irritation of tongue, lips and mouth, tonsil enlargement, vomiting, gastroesophageal reflux (GERD), Sandifer's syndrome, peptic ulcer disease, colic, stomach cramps, abdominal distention, intestinal obstruction, type-1 diabetes.


Lower Gastrointestinal:
Bloody stools, colitis, malabsorption, diarrhea, painful defecation, fecal soiling, infantile colic, chronic constipation, infantile food protein-induced enterocolitis syndrome (FPIES), Crohn’s disease, ulcerative colitis.


Respiratory:
Nasal stuffiness, runny nose, otitis media (inner ear trouble), sinusitis, wheezing, asthma, and pulmonary infiltrates.


Bone and joint:
Rheumatoid arthritis, juvenile rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, Beh?et’s disease, (possibly psoriatic arthritis and ankylosing spondylitis).


Skin:

Rashes, atopic dermatitis, eczema, seborrhea, hives (urticaria)


Nervous System (Behavioral):
Multiple sclerosis, Parkinson’s disease, autism, schizophrenia, irritability, restlessness, hyperactivity, headache, lethargy, fatigue, "allergic-tension fatigue syndrome," muscle pain, mental depression, enuresis (bed-wetting).


Blood:
Abnormal blood clotting, iron deficiency anemia, low serum proteins, thrombocytopenia, and eosinophilia.


Other:
Nephrotic syndrome, glomerulonephritis, anaphylactic shock and death, sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS or crib or cot death), injury to the arteries causing arteritis, and eventually, atherosclerosis.

References are available through the National Library of Medicine, www.nlm.nih.gov. Search “cow’s milk” and any of the diseases listed above.

All dairy products contain milk proteins, including skim milk, yogurt, cheese, and butter, and many butter substitutes. Milk proteins are listed in packaged food products with a variety of names, such as milk solids, skim milk powder, casein, caseinates, whey, and albumin. Milk is also often put into packaged foods and not declared on the label – this is illegal and punishable by FDA action.




read more on the dangers of milk products at
http://www.nealhendrickson.com/mcdou...anddisease.htm
http://www.drmcdougall.com/

[Shabang]

Nice log... troll

[BigCool]

Who doesn't know drinking milk gives you AIDS? Duh!

[msd8683]

worst post ever. Don't drink water, you'll get herpes is next

[gympumpinjunkie]

HAHA nice replies so far i guess you have not done anymore research on dairy consumption ?? oh well hope you enjoy your diseases/medical conditions when they get you eventually your just sheep follow everyone else believe the false crap the dairy corp put out


suckers

[gympumpinjunkie]

Originally Posted by bigcool

who doesn't know drinking milk gives you aids? Duh!

did not say it gives you aids

[gympumpinjunkie]

Originally Posted by msd8683

worst post ever. Don't drink water, you'll get herpes is next

lol your response shows your mentality!

[cacodaemon]

Originally Posted by gympumpinjunkie

Milk is not intended for human consumption period!

AIDS and Leukemia Viruses

Dairy cattle are infected with bovine immunodeficiency viruses (BIV) and bovine leukemia viruses (BLV), worldwide. (Bovine immunodeficiency viruses can also be properly referred to as bovine AIDS viruses.)

In the United States, results show an average 40% of beef herds and 64% of dairy herds are infected with BIV.5

In Canada6-7, the infection rate is 70% and in Argentina8 the rate is 84% for BLV.

Herds infected with the BIV are usually infected with the leukemia virus (BLV) also.5

Both viruses can cross species lines thus infecting other animals, like sheep, goats, and chimpanzees ? and they develop disease.5

Nationwide and worldwide, leukemia is more common in the higher dairy consuming populations.9,10

An increased incidence of leukemia has been found among dairy farmers in multiple studies.11-14

BIV infection has been reported in a person.15

The bovine leukemia virus has been classified in the same group as the Human T-cell Leukemia/Lymphotropic virus type 1 (HTLV-1), which is known to cause leukemia and lymphomas in humans (Adult T-cell leukemia/lymphoma).16

BIV is structurally and genetically closely related to human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) type-1 (the virus causing human AIDS).17

Pasteurization kills many types of microorganisms, but it is not foolproof. There is also concern that pasteurization may break the viruses into fragments that may become even more dangerous.18

DISEASES CAUSED BY, OR LINKED TO, DAIRY PROTEINS

General:
Loss of appetite, growth retardation.

Upper Gastrointestinal:
Canker sores (aphthous stomatitis), irritation of tongue, lips and mouth, tonsil enlargement, vomiting, gastroesophageal reflux (GERD), Sandifer's syndrome, peptic ulcer disease, colic, stomach cramps, abdominal distention, intestinal obstruction, type-1 diabetes.


Lower Gastrointestinal:
Bloody stools, colitis, malabsorption, diarrhea, painful defecation, fecal soiling, infantile colic, chronic constipation, infantile food protein-induced enterocolitis syndrome (FPIES), Crohn?s disease, ulcerative colitis.


Respiratory:
Nasal stuffiness, runny nose, otitis media (inner ear trouble), sinusitis, wheezing, asthma, and pulmonary infiltrates.


Bone and joint:
Rheumatoid arthritis, juvenile rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, Beh?et?s disease, (possibly psoriatic arthritis and ankylosing spondylitis).


Skin:

Rashes, atopic dermatitis, eczema, seborrhea, hives (urticaria)


Nervous System (Behavioral):
Multiple sclerosis, Parkinson?s disease, autism, schizophrenia, irritability, restlessness, hyperactivity, headache, lethargy, fatigue, "allergic-tension fatigue syndrome," muscle pain, mental depression, enuresis (bed-wetting).


Blood:
Abnormal blood clotting, iron deficiency anemia, low serum proteins, thrombocytopenia, and eosinophilia.


Other:
Nephrotic syndrome, glomerulonephritis, anaphylactic shock and death, sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS or crib or cot death), injury to the arteries causing arteritis, and eventually, atherosclerosis.

References are available through the National Library of Medicine, www.nlm.nih.gov. Search ?cow?s milk? and any of the diseases listed above.

All dairy products contain milk proteins, including skim milk, yogurt, cheese, and butter, and many butter substitutes. Milk proteins are listed in packaged food products with a variety of names, such as milk solids, skim milk powder, casein, caseinates, whey, and albumin. Milk is also often put into packaged foods and not declared on the label ? this is illegal and punishable by FDA action.

read more on the dangers of milk products at
http://www.nealhendrickson.com/mcdou...anddisease.htm
http://www.drmcdougall.com/

Then don't drink it.

And I took your advice, went to www.nlm.nih.gov, search for cow milk...and found lots articles on "Cow's milk is not recommended for infants under less than one year old". Clearly the sky is falling.

As far as the other links you provided, there are just as many articles indicating milk is fine. Everything in moderation.

But like I said, clearly milk is the root of all evil to you, so don't drink it.

[Brent1990]

I'll take my chances I need the protienz.

Yes these deseases are possible just like any animal product, some animals are sick, you can get samonella from chicken too doesn't mean we should stop eating it. Claims are grossly exagerated.

[gympumpinjunkie]

Originally Posted by Brent1990

I'll take my chances I need the protienz.

Yes these deseases are possible just like any animal product, some animals are sick, you can get samonella from chicken too doesn't mean we should stop eating it. Claims are grossly exagerated.

i agree if one does not want to stop eating it thats his/her choice. Just to add to the topic animal food diets are the main causes of heart disease that has been proven over and over

[Brent1990]

Originally Posted by gympumpinjunkie

i agree if one does not want to stop eating it thats his/her choice. Just to add to the topic animal food diets are the main causes of heart disease that has been proven over and over

I also agree it is a personal choice and have respect for people who follow that lifestyle but honestly no offence but you're not going to get much support on a bodybuilding website telling them Milk and Meat are the main sources of diseases without providing much proof.

These have been staples of the human diet for thousands of years and have numerous studies on their positive influence on the human body, from promoting growth, to providing other essential vitamins and minerals - vitamins and minerals that if we were without we would have a weakened immune system and be more susceptible to diseases.

[Autobody]

Originally Posted by gympumpinjunkie

i agree if one does not want to stop eating it thats his/her choice. Just to add to the topic animal food diets are the main causes of heart disease that has been proven over and over

If I switch to 200 grams of soy per day can I get hair like yours! (srs)

[Brent1990]

Originally Posted by Autobody

If I switch to 200 grams of soy per day can I get hair like yours! (srs)

lol and there have been studies and cases that link very high soy intake to gyno, I can provide sources for this... (was in mens health last month).

[Nostradamus2008]

damn cows...

[gympumpinjunkie]

[QUOTE=Brent1990;363899661]I also agree it is a personal choice and have respect for people who follow that lifestyle but honestly no offence but you're not going to get much support on a bodybuilding website telling them Milk and Meat are the main sources of diseases without providing much proof.

These have been staples of the human diet for thousands of years and have numerous studies on their positive influence on the human body, from promoting growth, to providing other essential vitamins and minerals - vitamins and minerals that if we were without we would have a weakened immune system and be more susceptible to diseases.[/QUOT]

some proof is with Dr Esselstyn and prof. colin campbel

youtube video lectures

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLNA12RKFdE

[Brent1990]

[QUOTE=gympumpinjunkie;364122971]

Originally Posted by Brent1990

I also agree it is a personal choice and have respect for people who follow that lifestyle but honestly no offence but you're not going to get much support on a bodybuilding website telling them Milk and Meat are the main sources of diseases without providing much proof.

These have been staples of the human diet for thousands of years and have numerous studies on their positive influence on the human body, from promoting growth, to providing other essential vitamins and minerals - vitamins and minerals that if we were without we would have a weakened immune system and be more susceptible to diseases.[/QUOT]

some proof is with Dr Esselstyn and prof. colin campbel

youtube video lectures

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLNA12RKFdE

i''m trying to figure out if you're trolling or not but ill reply anyways... I actually watched the video.

Yeah 2 guys... for every 2 guys that you have there are 1000 doctors and PHD's which will undoubtably agree milk and animal meat is a key part of the human diet, and when you list "diseases that are caused/linking to dairy" you list things like runny nose, and gastrointestinal discomfort? What? Runny noses can be caused by 1000 things including the common cold.

You know what else causes gastrointestinal issues? - eating the diet of a gorilla - pure plants that body was not designed for... I mean even are teeth are structured to rip meat (small sharp front teeth and mollers at the back for plant material)...you learn this in science class. Sorry I just don't agree with you, your entitlied to post your opinion on this site, but "telling" people that milk and meat is bad doesn't work for me. I'm actually very curious as to how you get your macronutrients in check? You must supplement like crazy... and what about the risks of an all vegan diet? Such as phytoestrogens in soy and the fact you have very little fat in your diet.

[Brent1990]

"BIV is structurally and genetically closely related to human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) type-1 (the virus causing human AIDS)" --- But its NOT... show me one person who got aids from eating a steak... this is ridicoulous.

[Hinchy11]

fack I love milk! I don't drink it anymore since I cant afford but when I was living at home, damn I was drinking a bag a day easily. Milk taste so good to me when I am hungover for some reason, not sure but I just chugged it down.

[cwheeler]

Here is a list of risks associated with a vegetarian diet that I found with a quick search:

"Balancing vegetarian food and nutrition is vital to maintaining a healthy vegetarian diet. Strict vegetarians may be at risk of several nutrition deficiencies such as vitamin B-12, riboflavin, zinc, calcium, iron, and essential amino acids such as lysine and methionine. Vegans and vegetarians are also at risk of energy deficiency in the form of calories, particularly in children.

Long-term deficiencies in an inadequate vegetarian diet may lead to the following complications:

* Osteoporosis as a result of a lack of calcium causing bone demineralization
* Rickets in children due to a lack of vitamin D
* Iron-Deficiency Anemia due to low iron storage. One study found that 27% of women and 5% of men who were lacto-ovo-vegetarians had low serum ferritin levels (iron storage)
* Macrocytic Anemia due to vitamin B-12 deficiency. This has been observed in infants breast-fed by mothers who are strict vegetarians
* Emaciation or Slow Growth in vegetarian infants and children

Another issue facing vegetarians is low protein quality based on protein digestibility and amino acid composition. The risk associated with the protein quality of plant foods is based on a lack of certain essential amino acids that are found in natural combinations in animal protein."

So don't pretend that there are no health issues with a vegetarian diet. Eating meat is not what's killing us. Being fat slobs is. No doubt that being a vegetarian helps with obesity, but a HEALTHY meat eater is no less healthy that a vegetarian. I believe that a balanced diet is the way to go. If you want to be a vegetarian, that is fine. It's your choice. If you want to post information about studies that suggest that eating meat and drinking milk is unhealthy, that is fine too. But don't come on here and say stuff like "oh well hope you enjoy your diseases/medical conditions when they get you eventually your just sheep follow everyone else believe the false crap the dairy corp put out". Calling people stupid for not following your lifestyle makes you lose all credibility and makes you seem like a giant ass.

[gympumpinjunkie]

[QUOTE=Brent1990;364132371]

Originally Posted by gympumpinjunkie

i''m trying to figure out if you're trolling or not but ill reply anyways... I actually watched the video.

Yeah 2 guys... for every 2 guys that you have there are 1000 doctors and PHD's which will undoubtably agree milk and animal meat is a key part of the human diet, and when you list "diseases that are caused/linking to dairy" you list things like runny nose, and gastrointestinal discomfort? What? Runny noses can be caused by 1000 things including the common cold.

You know what else causes gastrointestinal issues? - eating the diet of a gorilla - pure plants that body was not designed for... I mean even are teeth are structured to rip meat (small sharp front teeth and mollers at the back for plant material)...you learn this in science class. Sorry I just don't agree with you, your entitlied to post your opinion on this site, but "telling" people that milk and meat is bad doesn't work for me. I'm actually very curious as to how you get your macronutrients in check? You must supplement like crazy... and what about the risks of an all vegan diet? Such as phytoestrogens in soy and the fact you have very little fat in your diet.

well there is more than 2 guys lots more and well educated people the thousands of DR`s you are talking about i guess just have not looked into it. "Runny noses can be caused by 1000 things including the common cold" are just trivial problems and as you say 1000 of things cause them you get them if your intestinal tract (that is part of your immune system) and immune system is weakened and diet plays a big part in strengthening your immune system. I used to always have nasal congestion colds, flu as a nurse im always around the sick and since making the diet changes i feel so muck better i have nursed 2 people with swine flu and never caught it as where other nurses on the same ward did and the feeling and responses your body goes through after eliminating meat and dairy from my diet in a positive way mind and body its awesome I no longer suffer from joint pain mainly my knees you really need to understand anatomy and physiology and at a cellular level to see the effects meat and dairy have on the body. like i said being a nurse i have met many patients and reversed some chronic diseases like chronic renal failure and anaemia, prostate cancer just to mention a couple with dietary changes i only like to share facts to help other people. all my blood values and macronutrients are normal, plant and grain seeds fats are enough and animal fats are proven disease promoters i put it down to eating mostly raw foods as cooking them (at certain temps) alters and or destroys a lot of the nutrients and changes them at a molecular structure level so then they act differant in the body and our body has to work harder to break them down and utilize them and can change your gene expression . As for trolling whatever that is? all im trying to do is to make some people think mainly the ones consuming hight meat and dairy diets that are at high risk of chronic so called age related diseases that are dietary related diseases. Ihave done my own research i dont just listen to people without doing my own research and seeing it first hand then i believe. as for the teeth meat eating animals teeth are dif. to humans as is their intestinal tracts i could go on but i will use up all this sites space.

keep pumping it hard

[BRAVE-HEART]

rare bloody stakes and a glass of milk ... mmmmmm

are you mad casue i eat meat ?... mabey i should switch yo spinach.... Popeye got huge eating that ****

[kh971]

Okay coming from a line of dairy farmers.....if it is so bad,,,the world population should be knocking over in mass quantities, faster than the birth rate....so basicly extinction of the human race.
Especially before there was pasturization.
Many families got their milk straight from the cow to the icebox, I know.
Today we now crowd too many animals into too tight of quarters and hence then disease can arise...like humans, hence plagues where one diseased human infects thousands.
That is my biggest concern.