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Old 07-24-2009, 04:22 PM   #1
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TheOriginal's Primordial Performance Dermacrine Log



This log begins first thing in the morning. Here's some basic information to get things rolling. I'll weigh in and take some measurements first thing in the morning.

For anyone who follows this, feel free to post any questions, comments, suggestions, etc.

I tend to produce logs that are more qualitative than quantitative, but I do plan to post changes in measurements and strength increases, in terms of lbs. increased on key lifts.

BACKGROUND

I am what I would consider a super-stress type of person, and I believe stress and cortisol are probably the reason why I store fat in my waste more than anywhere else. Although it's not obsessive, I tend to get stressed about every little thing it seems.

Over the last 4-5 weeks I have lost around 15lbs just by giving up sugar and eating better, especially increasing protein. I was in great shape up until August 2008 when I just started packing on the weight. I went from about 195 to 225. I'm currently at around 210, but I will weight tomorrow morning when I get this log started.

DIET

I currently aim for 2000 calories, 210g of protein, and about 100g of carbs. I usually have one carb up day per week, often on Sat. or Sun.

SUPPLEMENTS

I will be applying Dermacrine first thing in the morning when I get out of the shower. I usually wake up around 6AM and immediately take a shower. 5 pumps per day.

I will also be using DS Lean Xtreme in the typical recommended way : 1 AM, 1 four hours later, With each cap of LX I will be adding 100mg of Phosphatidylserine, and 2 SNS RK-125 caps. I also use Carlsen's fish oil.

I currently use Dymatize Elite Whey (vanilla) about three times per day, including post workout, to ensure I get enough protein.

TRAINING :

I'm currently using German Volume Training for the shock, but I will probably return to lower volume in a couple of weeks. I sometimes alter a training session when my schedule demands it; sometimes I may do three body parts in one day with slightly less volume if necessary. Otherwise, I try to follow the below schedule.

Monday - Chest, Shoulders
Tuesday - Off
Wednesday - Back, Biceps
Thursday - Off
Friday - Legs, Triceps
Saturday - Off/Cardio
Sunday - Off/Cardio
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BTW, I have to agree with some of the other loggers : the packaging/shipping was perfect. There was no chance of this product getting damaged or leaking in the box. Last year I ordered a bottle of Napalm and Lipoderm; when I got the package there was all sorts of leakage.
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Old 07-25-2009, 10:56 AM   #3
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Day One

Weight: 210.2 lbs.

Bodyfat: 26.8% (according to the questionable accuracy of the Tanita scales)

I'm looking for the Myotape so I'm hoping to get some measurements up today, and I may do the before and after pictures as well.

1st Dermacrine dose : I was amazed at how much product comes out of 5 pumps of Dermacrine. I expected a very small amount like when using Napalm/Lipoderm, which is the only experience I've had with topicals. 5 pumps is enough to pretty much cover the entire shoulder/upper back area.

I may try to get in some cardio this afternoon at the pool. If I do, it will be about ten hours after application of the Dermacrine.
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Lookin' good brother!

GVT is an intense routine. I'm going to make a suggestion re: your diet and this type of volume training. This kind of routine can work great on a diet just bcause of the shock factor it gives your muscles and caloric requirements it puts on your body. Having said that, I'm honestly not sure 100g is going to be enough to sustain adequate training intensity, even at your BF and LBM level. So, consider consuming 50grams of carbs preworkout - this'll help with your training intensity, pumps, strength and recovery (all things important to look for when dieting to prevent overtraining).

But anyway, good luck and I'll be following

How long after applying the Dermacrine do you plan on swimming?
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Old 07-25-2009, 11:42 AM   #5
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Thanks for the feedback! I think have some dextrose in the cabinet so I might add a few tablespoons to the PWO protein shake. I'll probably hit the pool around 5-6PM or so. I applied the Dermacrine this morning a little after 8AM so that gives about 9-10 hours.
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looking forward to your thoughts as you seem to have different expectations than the other loggers... variety is, indeed, the blah blah blah.
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Thanks for the feedback! I think have some dextrose in the cabinet so I might add a few tablespoons to the PWO protein shake. I'll probably hit the pool around 5-6PM or so. I applied the Dermacrine this morning a little after 8AM so that gives about 9-10 hours.
I know a lot of people don't leave transdermals on for a full 24 hours and this is OK, but I like to recommend people try to leave it on for a full day. Now, I think it's alright to leave it on for 10 hours or so once in a while, but if I were you I would not make it a habit - try to leave it on for at least 12 hours everyday. Go for a brisk walk for some cardio instead.
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Thanks Smitty! I guess my main expectation, as well as priority, is fat loss. I'm hoping to add some muscle too, which I fully expect to do with Dermacrine and muscle memory from the success I had last year. Dermacrine + LX seems like a great way to control cortisol and assist with the fat loss though.

I'm also looking forward to the other benefits like cognitive enhancement, libido, better sleep, etc.

BTW, here's a good video about cortisol and fat loss...from a cute chick.

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I know a lot of people don't leave transdermals on for a full 24 hours and this is OK, but I like to recommend people try to leave it on for a full day. Now, I think it's alright to leave it on for 10 hours or so once in a while, but if I were you I would not make it a habit - try to leave it on for at least 12 hours everyday. Go for a brisk walk for some cardio instead.
Thanks for the info. I woke up late this morning since it's Saturday, but most weekdays I will be up and have the Dermacrine applied around 6:30-7:00AM. I probably won't be at the pool much with the exception of weekends anyway.
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Day 2

No workout today. When I start hitting the weights tomorrow I will have two days of the Dermacrine in my system.

Even though it absorbs really well, 5 pumps produces a lot of Dermacrine. I do find a need to wait about ten minutes before putting my shirt back on. Still, it absorbs completely and doesn't leave an oily residue.

Weight training will resume tomorrow so it's good to have these first two days to get the product going.

Basically my major supplementation will all take place before noon. The Dermacrine goes on in the morning as well as taking the first dose of LX, then I'll take the second dose of LX around 10:30AM.

I'm hitting the grocery store in a few minutes to pick up all the items I will need for nutrition. I'm going to start planning my meals out a little better and stick with it so I can get my macros a bit more targeted and precise. Cottage cheese, peanut butter, almonds, salmon, and shrimp are a few of the things I added to the list. I don't eat beef, pork, or chicken so seafood is my primary source of protein these days.
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Day 3

I won't be able to conduct my first weight training session on Dermacrine until late this afternoon. I plan to hit shoulders and chest in the garage using the flat db press and db shoulder press. I'm still following the GVT program for now. My strength has been pretty low since getting back to training so the numbers will appear abysmally low to most of you who follow my log. I'm aiming for 40lb DB with chest, and 25lb DB with the shoulder press. Hopefully my strength will go up a bit during the course of this log.

I'll post the results of the training session tonight....
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Training : Chest and Shoulders

Flat presses with 40lb DB - 10 sets of 10 reps
Shoulder press - 25lb DB - 10 sets of 10 reps

Strength was actually pretty good. On the last three sets of shoulder presses I could only get 7-8 reps and since I use adjustable db's I just decided not to lower the weight, and instead go with the fewer reps.

The increased sexual function is definitely noticeable now. Without going into all the details, I can say with certainty that this product is having a major effects in terms of erection hardness. As far as libido, desire, etc. I think there may be a subtle increase but it's hard to really tell at this point.
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just curious, dude... how long are the rest periods with the GVT?
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When it comes to the sexual effects, I will probably use more technical-sounding explanations like "noticeable increase in erection hardness", "increased desire", and "increase in semen volume." As opposed to "Dermacrine is causing me to explode and make a mess in the bathroom."

As for GVT rest periods, I usually aim for 2-3 minutes between each set. Occasionally I may throw in a 5 minute break just to really reset myself. This is often the case with working legs when I'm having a hard time just standing on them.

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Glad today is an off day from training. I spent about three hours replacing the radiator fan in the car, and I'm about ready to drop now!
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Day 4

I've only had one weight training session since starting so it's hard to tell about strength. Once I get through a week, though, I should be able to tell.

I have major soreness in my chest today while shoulders aren't too bad. For some reason my chest always gets sore even if I do a light workout with nothing but a few sets of push ups. With a heavy workout, such as with GVT, it may take 5-6 days before the soreness is fully gone.
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I've only had one weight training session since starting so it's hard to tell about strength. Once I get through a week, though, I should be able to tell.

I have major soreness in my chest today while shoulders aren't too bad. For some reason my chest always gets sore even if I do a light workout with nothing but a few sets of push ups. With a heavy workout, such as with GVT, it may take 5-6 days before the soreness is fully gone.
I'm looking forward for the Dermacrine to kick in for you

By the way, what is your age?
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Thanks kknecht! I'm looking forward to the next few weeks! I'm 32, just a few months away from 33.
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Day 5

Training : Back/Biceps

DB Rows - 10 sets of 10 w/ 40 lb DB's

Barbell Curls - 10 sets of 10 w/ 50 lbs.

Back is probably one of my weakest muscles at this point. I can't even do a single wide grip pullup anymore. With DB rows, there were three sets where I only made it to 8 reps (didn't want to hit failure) I finished off the workout by actually hanging on the pullup bar for a couple of minutes, and yes, it was fatiguing! So I'm hoping I can increase back strength over the next few weeks.

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i hear what you mean on those pullups... i used to be able to bang out chins for 4 sets of 8 with weight, and now i gas at around 1 set of 3... lulz.

bringin' the chin back into the routine beginning tomorrow, though...
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i hear what you mean on those pullups... i used to be able to bang out chins for 4 sets of 8 with weight, and now i gas at around 1 set of 3... lulz.

bringin' the chin back into the routine beginning tomorrow, though...
Me too! I'm hoping I can eventually work my way up to doing one! Lol. I'm guessing that hanging there for a few minutes on back day might be helpful though.
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Me too! I'm hoping I can eventually work my way up to doing one! Lol. I'm guessing that hanging there for a few minutes on back day might be helpful though.
i plan on using a lot of partials once i've exhausted the full ROM chins and try to build up that arm strength.

here's to us on our quest to chin, and chin well.
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One thing I noticed after taking a shower tonight is that the skin on my shoulders/back where I apply the Dermacrine is a lot smoother. There's a noticeable difference in that area. I've always heard about people using 2-5% Dhea cream to improve skin so I guess it really works for that.
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Day 6

I went ahead and a got a little bit of cardio in this morning : 25 minutes of walking.

I basically never take stim fat burners, and instead drink tons of coffee each day which no longer has much of a stimulant effect for me. It seems like the Dermacrine may be potentiating the caffeine in coffee though. I've noticed that my morning coffee seems to stimulate more now. I wake up, apply the Dermacrine, and start drinking coffee about 10-15 minutes later. There seems to be more of a jolt.

I plan to weigh in tomorrow morning at the 7 day mark and see if I've lost a few lbs.
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Day 7

Weight/BF % :

Day 1 : 210.2 lbs. / 26.8%
Day 7 : 208.8 / 30.6%

***I've got to get some new scales because these are obviously not accurate. I'm going to go over to my friend's house this afternoon and use his scales for comparison. I always heard Tanita was the worse way to assess bf% and now I'm sure that was correct.***

Training : Legs/Triceps

* Keep in mind I do all of my training at home in the garage, therefore, the squat is something I pretty much never do. Fortunately, my legs grow easily for some reason, and lunges and extensions are usually enough to get them growing.

DB Lunges - 10 sets of 10-12 with 40 lbs. DB's
*I often alternate between walking lunges across the garage and back, and the regular in-place lunges.

Note : Lunges require about 5 minutes of rest time between sets, just to catch my breath and be able to stand up.

Triceps Pressdowns - 10 sets of 10 with 60 lbs.
* I feel like triceps are one muscle where strength hasn't gone down at all during the time I wasn't training or eating right. I was surprised to find 60 lbs relatively easy.

More Notes : I may have to reorganize my training for next week and do four sessions instead of three. Legs, for me at least, really need their own day, and I would like to add the leg extensions in for almost every leg day.
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I got a scale and it's just messed up. It's not consistant at all.

I use the calipers and I still can't get things consistant. It's almost better to use one of the measuring formulas you put your measurements in.
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most of these mickey-mouse methods are so inconsistent/inaccurate...

if i'm not able to utilize any type of hydrostatic method to test my BF, i use the mirror.
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most of these mickey-mouse methods are so inconsistent/inaccurate...

if i'm not able to utilize any type of hydrostatic method to test my BF, i use the mirror.

I know what you mean...even though I'm 7 days into the log, I think I may go ahead and do what I initially didn't want to do : take some pictures of my fat ass! At least I'll be able to get an accurate sense of progress, from the after pictures and feedback from others.
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