neccessary supps while cutting?

[snyper99]

my goal is fat loss while maintaining muscle.
I am 5'10'' 265/270 lbs.,I want to get down to atleast 220/230 by November.

I have been lifting only for the past 6 months(no cardio) and now I plan on lifting 4 days a week and do cardio 5 days a week.My question is,are there any supps that are a must for me while trying to get rid of this fat?So far i am taking Optimum Pro Complex,SciVation Whey,Supplement Direct BCAA,and NOW Adam.Is there anything i am missing or am i taking something i shouldnt?

[th3pwn3r]

my goal is fat loss while maintaining muscle.
I am 5'10'' 265/270 lbs.,I want to get down to atleast 220/230 by November.

I have been lifting only for the past 6 months(no cardio) and now I plan on lifting 4 days a week and do cardio 5 days a week.My question is,are there any supps that are a must for me while trying to get rid of this fat?So far i am taking Optimum Pro Complex,SciVation Whey,Supplement Direct BCAA,and NOW Adam.Is there anything i am missing or am i taking something i shouldnt?

You don't NEED any supplements to cut. You can cut just fine with whole foods alone. Out of what is listed I would use whey personally. I would also take a multivitamin and maybe some fish oil pills.

[snyper99]

You don't NEED any supplements to cut. You can cut just fine with whole foods alone. Out of what is listed I would use whey personally. I would also take a multivitamin and maybe some fish oil pills.

Wouldnt I need something to help preserve the muscle that I have put on so far?

[Shr3dJunki3]

Yeah, protein and weight lifting.

[sweet_lew]

Wouldnt I need something to help preserve the muscle that I have put on so far?

Not if you add enough protein from whole foods like meats, eggs... etc. You could use a whey supp if you wanted, but not needed.

[BadBoy4Life]

Not if you add enough protein from whole foods like meats, eggs... etc. You could use a whey supp if you wanted, but not needed.

whey
multi
fish oil
creatine
bcaa
profit

[HulkHagen]

Only thing I would really worry about is protein and maybe a multi.

[hodag1]

Wouldnt I need something to help preserve the muscle that I have put on so far?

No, no and no. You do need to get enough protein in your diet to maintain your lean mass, but if you have an adequate diet that is good enough. High intensity exercise and weight lifting, in the presence of normal dietary protein levels, will spare your existing muscle much more effectively than all the whey shakes in the world and no high stress exercise.

[snyper99]

No, no and no. You do need to get enough protein in your diet to maintain your lean mass, but if you have an adequate diet that is good enough. High intensity exercise and weight lifting, in the presence of normal dietary protein levels, will spare your existing muscle much more effectively than all the whey shakes in the world and no high stress exercise.

since i will be lifting 4 days and cardio 5 days and my job is a physical job(constant sweating due to extrmely hot temps here in Houston)how many calories should i be looking to take in cause according to one calorie calculator i need to take in about 3,300 calories for fat loss but i calculated my meals for tomorrow and it only comes in at about 2,000 calories.

[dillingerescp]

Wouldnt I need something to help preserve the muscle that I have put on so far?

yes. steak and eggs do the trick.

[snyper99]

yes. steak and eggs do the trick.

so no need for bcaa?

[snyper99]

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[_OZ_]

Great replies and advice. Supplements are not necessary to lose fat. Save your money! Diet is the most important thing. You have to eat less. To preserve muscle, lift hard. Check out my profile and blog. I just spent the last 5 months losing 25 lbs and 6 inches off my waist without doing any cardio or taking any supplements. I lost little or no muscle because I lifted hard throughout.

[Hotb55]

Multi, Fish Oils, Whey

[lifthard72]

i like to use green tea bcaa and protein but thats about it

[Loomies]

use this for all your food, makes it taste good

[snyper99]

Great replies and advice. Supplements are not necessary to lose fat. Save your money! Diet is the most important thing. You have to eat less. To preserve muscle, lift hard. Check out my profile and blog. I just spent the last 5 months losing 25 lbs and 6 inches off my waist without doing any cardio or taking any supplements. I lost little or no muscle because I lifted hard throughout.

you must have a very fast metabolism cause i have been lifting and eating better than how i was for about 6 months and so far i have only gone down two pant sizes.That was with no cardio as well,other than the exercise i get at work(delivery driver).I lift 4 days a week for an hour with only secondds between exercises and i believe that i need to do some cardio.Obesity runs in my moms side of the family and i was cursed with the fat gene and i have been overweight since i was a little kid and through out my life.

[Shwayze]

you must have a very fast metabolism cause i have been lifting and eating better than how i was for about 6 months and so far i have only gone down two pant sizes.That was with no cardio as well,other than the exercise i get at work(delivery driver).I lift 4 days a week for an hour with only secondds between exercises and i believe that i need to do some cardio.Obesity runs in my moms side of the family and i was cursed with the fat gene and i have been overweight since i was a little kid and through out my life.

might sound crazy but everyone is different

[_OZ_]

you must have a very fast metabolism cause i have been lifting and eating better than how i was for about 6 months and so far i have only gone down two pant sizes.That was with no cardio as well,other than the exercise i get at work(delivery driver).I lift 4 days a week for an hour with only secondds between exercises and i believe that i need to do some cardio.Obesity runs in my moms side of the family and i was cursed with the fat gene and i have been overweight since i was a little kid and through out my life.

I don't know about my metabolism being very fast. I doubt it. Obesity runs in my family too and I've been obese for the last 5 years. Eating clean is not enough. You must eat less. Some people workout hard but overeat to compensate for the energy burned without realising it. That was my problem for ages. For most fat people eating less is more effective for fat loss than exercising more, which tends to spike the appetite.

[theapexxxx]

Multivitamin (preferably little to no iron)
Fish/Flax seed oils (not a necessity but can def help)
Glucosamine (not just to cut, but anytime your gonna lift weight or do cardio I recommend)
Protein Powder (having both casein and whey is great, but just whey on its own is fine)
Glutamine (found in most protein powders, so may not be necessary)

Optional:
Caffeine (raises your metabolism slightly, and gives you more ooomph in the gym)
Green Tea extract (read alot of articles saying it promotes fat loss)
NO product (such as NO-xplode, you'll never want to workout without it)

[BiGGz28]

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[BiGGz28]

Multivitamin (preferably little to no iron)
Fish/Flax seed oils (not a necessity but can def help)
Glucosamine (not just to cut, but anytime your gonna lift weight or do cardio I recommend)
Protein Powder (having both casein and whey is great, but just whey on its own is fine)
Glutamine (found in most protein powders, so may not be necessary)

Optional:
Caffeine (raises your metabolism slightly, and gives you more ooomph in the gym)
Green Tea extract (read alot of articles saying it promotes fat loss)
NO product (such as NO-xplode, you'll never want to workout without it)

while i would put the glucosamine under optional...i agree with this list of stuff

[Problem]

You don't need supplements to cut, but you need them as a motivation to keep going and try somthing new.

[theapexxxx]

while i would put the glucosamine under optional...i agree with this list of stuff

Glucosamine should be mandatory to even get a gym membership in my opinion. Joint care in the long run is a hell of a lot more important than gaining muscle or losing weight when your not able to walk in 20 years.

[snyper99]

I don't know about my metabolism being very fast. I doubt it. Obesity runs in my family too and I've been obese for the last 5 years. Eating clean is not enough. You must eat less. Some people workout hard but overeat to compensate for the energy burned without realising it. That was my problem for ages. For most fat people eating less is more effective for fat loss than exercising more, which tends to spike the appetite.

so you dont pay any mind to the calorie calculators that recommend how many calories to eat for fat loss/maintenance/bulking?

i have cut back on how much i eat and i have seen that my clothes fit me a little looser than lets say 4-5 weeks ago