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    "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man."

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    Avenged Sevenfold used that at the begining of Chapter 4...just saying.
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    It's actually at the beginning of ''Bat Country'', not ''Chapter Four''. Although both songs are amazing.
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    Originally Posted by ThePhenom21 View Post
    Avenged Sevenfold used that at the begining of Chapter 4...just saying.
    Bat Country... just saying.
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    Those who are willing and able to separate themselves from the weakness and vulnerability of emotion will rise above those who are bound and victimized by it.
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    Originally Posted by NoodleLegs View Post
    Those who are willing and able to separate themselves from the weakness and vulnerability of emotion will rise above those who are bound and victimized by it.
    this. good quote btw
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    Originally Posted by NoodleLegs View Post
    Those who are willing and able to separate themselves from the weakness and vulnerability of emotion will rise above those who are bound and victimized by it.
    This.
    “Ask not for a lighter burden, but ask for broader shoulders.”
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    Originally Posted by ThePhenom21 View Post
    Avenged Sevenfold used that at the begining of Chapter 4...just saying.
    Originally Posted by xvicknumber7x View Post
    It's actually at the beginning of ''Bat Country'', not ''Chapter Four''. Although both songs are amazing.
    It's also used at the beginning of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.
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    Originally Posted by NoodleLegs View Post
    Those who are willing and able to separate themselves from the weakness and vulnerability of emotion
    He who makes a beast of himself

    Originally Posted by NoodleLegs View Post
    will rise above those who are bound and victimized by it.
    gets rid of the pain of being a man.

    Ok, that sounds good.
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    I disagree. This forum uses "beast" in a positive way but for most people to say someone is "beastly" implies that they are less than human. "Beast" in this quote would therefore have a negative connotation, while to be a MAN is a good thing and always has been in any culture or society. To be a man is to deal with the human condition (emotion, empathy, uncertainty) in daily life and never to bow. To be a beast is to remove yourself from it, but while you eliminate the negative aspects of humanity you also eliminate the positive (compassion, true bravery, love and friendship, honor etc)

    Being a man is painful, but preferable to being a beast - see what I mean? I read it as making yourself a beast being a cop-out. A sign of weakness, in a way.

    Maybe I'm reading too much into it.
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    Originally Posted by ZZ Topless View Post
    I disagree. This forum uses "beast" in a positive way but for most people to say someone is "beastly" implies that they are less than human. "Beast" in this quote would therefore have a negative connotation, while to be a MAN is a good thing and always has been in any culture or society. To be a man is to deal with the human condition (emotion, empathy, uncertainty) in daily life and never to bow. To be a beast is to remove yourself from it, but while you eliminate the negative aspects of humanity you also eliminate the positive (compassion, true bravery, love and friendship, honor etc)

    Being a man is painful, but preferable to being a beast - see what I mean? I read it as making yourself a beast being a cop-out. A sign of weakness, in a way.

    Maybe I'm reading too much into it.
    Nice! However, "Beast" used as an inferior to man is biblical in roots (beasts < man < angels). Assuming that the quote is based off of modern contemporary cultures and is of Western influence, then 'beast' wouldn't have been used in a negative connotation as it pertains to the riddance of the pains and struggles of being human.

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    Originally Posted by The_Reaper View Post
    He who makes a beast of himself



    gets rid of the pain of being a man.

    Ok, that sounds good.
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    Originally Posted by ZZ Topless View Post
    I disagree. This forum uses "beast" in a positive way but for most people to say someone is "beastly" implies that they are less than human. "Beast" in this quote would therefore have a negative connotation, while to be a MAN is a good thing and always has been in any culture or society. To be a man is to deal with the human condition (emotion, empathy, uncertainty) in daily life and never to bow. To be a beast is to remove yourself from it, but while you eliminate the negative aspects of humanity you also eliminate the positive (compassion, true bravery, love and friendship, honor etc)

    Being a man is painful, but preferable to being a beast - see what I mean? I read it as making yourself a beast being a cop-out. A sign of weakness, in a way.

    Maybe I'm reading too much into it.
    I agree with you, reps.
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    Originally Posted by ZZ Topless View Post
    I disagree. This forum uses "beast" in a positive way but for most people to say someone is "beastly" implies that they are less than human. "Beast" in this quote would therefore have a negative connotation, while to be a MAN is a good thing and always has been in any culture or society. To be a man is to deal with the human condition (emotion, empathy, uncertainty) in daily life and never to bow. To be a beast is to remove yourself from it, but while you eliminate the negative aspects of humanity you also eliminate the positive (compassion, true bravery, love and friendship, honor etc)

    Being a man is painful, but preferable to being a beast - see what I mean? I read it as making yourself a beast being a cop-out. A sign of weakness, in a way.

    Maybe I'm reading too much into it.
    Whoa, gjdm.

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    It means the more of a badass you are, the less **** you have to worry about.
    That could be correct too!
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    Originally Posted by ZZ Topless View Post
    I disagree. This forum uses "beast" in a positive way but for most people to say someone is "beastly" implies that they are less than human. "Beast" in this quote would therefore have a negative connotation, while to be a MAN is a good thing and always has been in any culture or society. To be a man is to deal with the human condition (emotion, empathy, uncertainty) in daily life and never to bow. To be a beast is to remove yourself from it, but while you eliminate the negative aspects of humanity you also eliminate the positive (compassion, true bravery, love and friendship, honor etc)

    Being a man is painful, but preferable to being a beast - see what I mean? I read it as making yourself a beast being a cop-out. A sign of weakness, in a way.

    Maybe I'm reading too much into it.
    I would have to agree with this interpretation!
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    Originally Posted by AdamAlbonni View Post
    I would have to agree with this interpretation!
    "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man."

    Agreed.

    The very essence of the quote is about alienating oneself from the piteous traits of the mortal man. It's essentially ejecting yourself from humanity(much like Rich Piana's superhuman concept ) - ''leaving humanity behind''.
    As mentioned above, in becoming a beast, you remove these arguably hindering qualities of man and let your true potential go unscathed. You give into being impulsive, animalistic blah blah blah. Alot of this is from my interpretation of Lennie from OfMiceAndMen(school work.)

    Pretty weird outlook on life though.

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    The quote is a coming of age piece, like the "so your driving in a hurricane" riddle..

    Becoming a man turns your body into a beast; a man has a methodical approach to pain and puts his family above himself. But a true man loves to cry for it reminds him that he is still human, and can still feel.

    Numbing yourself from everything kills your soul and makes you like an animal, a lesser being.

    If you read where it comes from, Anecdotes of the Revd. Percival Stockdale, you'd see that Johnson really did mean it in the numbing sense.. but back then being a man, a real man, was more important than pain; so it was certainly a cop out in all likelihood.


    Also it was quoted by Dr. Seuss long before Fear and Loathing..and Wayy before Bat Country...both of which use it in accordance with drugs, darkness, and being numb as opposed to the integrity distilled from my initial description.


    Also..you can never over think things..you either think them through or you don't.. You can think so much you put yourself in a corner, but let's be honest, most people these days don't think nearly enough.
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    this, its at the beginning of fear and loathing in las vegas, the song bat country is a reference to the book also. Lots of different ways to interpret it tho. Im also pretty sure samuel johnson was dr suess


    edit: meant to quote guy who said its about doing drugs in certain context and losing your morals, mostly losing morals
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    Originally Posted by ZZ Topless View Post
    I disagree. This forum uses "beast" in a positive way but for most people to say someone is "beastly" implies that they are less than human. "Beast" in this quote would therefore have a negative connotation, while to be a MAN is a good thing and always has been in any culture or society. To be a man is to deal with the human condition (emotion, empathy, uncertainty) in daily life and never to bow. To be a beast is to remove yourself from it, but while you eliminate the negative aspects of humanity you also eliminate the positive (compassion, true bravery, love and friendship, honor etc)

    Being a man is painful, but preferable to being a beast - see what I mean? I read it as making yourself a beast being a cop-out. A sign of weakness, in a way.

    Maybe I'm reading too much into it.
    great interpretation brah, i was thinking along the same lines. yes, i think the quote is saying that you can remove the emotional pain and vulnerability that comes with being a human being by removing all vestiges of humanity and civility altogether, but it will make you a lowly, violent beast.
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    I would have to agree with this interpretation!
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