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    280 bench @ 125 raw, how much does it look like i did? some spotter help.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c-uPoBQrAM

    how does my form look? mostly worried about that
    there was some help so dont start a big discussion about how much i did or how i didnt do anything. how much does it look like i did?

    one thing he did push it away from the rack near the top right before i lock out then he pulled the weight back he didnt pull it all the way up.

    no negs please!
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    if the spotter touches the bar the lift is negated.

    edit: just watched it.

    nice team press/deadlift
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    Originally Posted by isaku900 View Post
    if the spotter touches the bar the lift is negated.

    edit: just watched it.

    nice team press/deadlift
    haha i lol'ed at team press.
    there was some obvious struggling on both parties too.
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    yeah i agreed at first if you look at the post, but how much does it look like i did, and how was my form, how about you read the post.
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    Originally Posted by cmcd24 View Post
    yeah i agreed at first if you look at the post, but how much does it look like i did, and how was my form, how about you read the post.
    nothing. it is a missed lift.
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    Originally Posted by isaku900 View Post
    nothing. it is a missed lift.
    wow this is even more help than the teen section
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    as far as im concerned i would say this was a fail from the start. his hands never left the bar. if the spotter touches the bar at all, i consider it a missed lift...simple really.
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    Originally Posted by mosley1990 View Post
    as far as im concerned i would say this was a fail from the start. his hands never left the bar. if the spotter touches the bar at all, i consider it a missed lift...simple really.
    its not at a competition so thats not really concerning me, i guess the video quality isnt much help either i'll just attempt it again without help other than getting off the rack and racking the bar
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    as to your question...there is absolutely no way to tell "how much" your spotter is taking off. not from a video, not from if we were there.

    that is why if the spotter touches the bar it is a missed lift. no matter what.
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    on the plus side based on you and your buddies training id say this is the only lower body work you get will ever do (deadlifts) so go heavier and switch to an over under grip it will help

    hell just get some atp straps theyll hold up to any weights your friend could ever try to bench
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    Originally Posted by isaku900 View Post
    as to your question...there is absolutely no way to tell "how much" your spotter is taking off. not from a video, not from if we were there.

    that is why if the spotter touches the bar it is a missed lift. no matter what.
    ok well i'm not even going to compete until next spring since i have surgery in a little over a week, but i'm going to try to get to a 300 raw bench at hopefully under 150 pounds
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    Originally Posted by blindsideflank View Post
    on the plus side based on you and your buddies training id say this is the only lower body work you get will ever do (deadlifts) so go heavier and switch to an over under grip it will help

    hell just get some atp straps theyll hold up to any weights your friend could ever try to bench
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    Originally Posted by cmcd24 View Post
    ok well i'm not even going to compete until next spring since i have surgery in a little over a week, but i'm going to try to get to a 300 raw bench at hopefully under 150 pounds
    ok.

    got a lot of work to do.
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    What is your best clean bench? I have a feeling it is nowhere near 280.
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    Originally Posted by PaHulkster View Post
    What is your best clean bench? I have a feeling it is nowhere near 280.
    i'm not really a fan of how they spot since they constantly have their hands on the bar so i honestly have no clue i have a feeling its about 240 245 somthing in that range touch and go, probably about 225 with a pause
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    Originally Posted by cmcd24 View Post
    i'm not really a fan of how they spot since they constantly have their hands on the bar so i honestly have no clue i have a feeling its about 240 245 somthing in that range touch and go, probably about 225 with a pause
    A good spotter is worth their weight in saturated fat and protein enriched hamburgers!

    Tell your spotter to help you unrack and bring the weight into starting position and then back off! Don't touch it unless I say so or unless it starts descending.

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    Like many have mentioned the spotter had his hands in the bar the whole time means its a no lift. Whether or not he helped with 1lb or a hundred. (looks to me its closer to the 100 than the 1).

    The video is pretty bad quality and hard to tell if your setup and technique is any good, sorry.


    Also you should talk to your spotter about wearing a belt when doing heavy deadlifts. I know its a personal preference but he should look into it
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    LOL at the description on the youtube video: "benching 280, wouldnt clear for powerlifting" ..... Ya think??!!!!
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    sadfds

    check out his other thread of the same thing in the teen section

    forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=117767451&page=3&welcome=true

    i think its pretty funny
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    As someone who is around your bodyweight range, i will try to give some hopefully applicable opinions.

    Very good effort. An actual 285 bench press at 125 would fetch you certain records.

    However as you know it yourself, currently you need a spotter's great help to lift it.

    I will share one thing. Years ago, I used to bench press with a spotter lifting the bar slightly together with me. After heavy sets, I would immediately sit up and ask the spotter anxiously "How much did you help?" All my spotters within a one year period in 2005 (I had around 5 different spotters throughout that one year of training) all gave me a similar answer "I only applied very minimal assistance. Maybe only 5kg of help". That gave me a reassurance that I am actually bench pressing the weights by myself.

    Little did I know, my ego was going to suffer a lot. As time went by, I started to question why my bench press gains were arriving in terms of 10 pounds per week. I decided to bench press by myself with no spotter for once. And hell...it was extremely difficult to bench press my usual warm up weights with no spotter...all the stabilisation issues, all the fear factors of dropping the weight on myself, all the confidence-killer-thoughts about how-am-i-gonna-bench-without-a-guardian-hand-under-the-bar....all these problems started to kick in and I knew I was doomed. I had to start over again. Get into the groove again.

    The fact is, if someone is helping you, everything is an illusion, period. I used to think I was pushing most of the weight by myself and the spotter was lifting only 1%, but it was wrong. All my spotters remarked that they barely assisted, but those "bare assistance from spotters" always magically help us lift much more. The spotter may be curling 30 pounds up for you but he thinks he assisted by only 5 pounds because it was effortless.

    Friend, try to forget that you ever tried this 285 set. Furthermore, try to forget guessing how much the spotter was helping. No one will know. Try to treat this as an invalid lift and erase it. From now, try to do all benching without the spotter helping. Tell them, if they wish the best for you, to keep their freaking hands away from the bar after helping you lift-off.

    Clean bench press reps is the first way to go. You have the strength, it is impressive. As magical as the spotter's assistance was, your strength definitely had a major part to play in the completion of the above 2X bodyweight bench press. But start performing clean reps. Nothing is more essential than this right now. Add some pauses here and there.

    Wouldn't it be superior to know you lifted 285 cleanly, than having to guess how much percentage of it you lifted and how much the spotter helped? I truly believe you have a good base strength. Utilise your strength and start on the actual route to true bench press strength. Those gains will soar legitimately back to 285 and beyond.

    Finally, in my opinion a spotter's help gets amplified much more for a very light lifter. Training a lift cleanly is real important for you.
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    Originally Posted by cmcd24 View Post
    i'm not really a fan of how they spot since they constantly have their hands on the bar so i honestly have no clue i have a feeling its about 240 245 somthing in that range touch and go, probably about 225 with a pause
    If you "think" your max is 240, wtf are you doing with 280 on the bar?
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    Originally Posted by DuracellBunny View Post
    If you "think" your max is 240, wtf are you doing with 280 on the bar?
    exactly!

    "if I ride my bike down a hill I can go X mph, how fast does it look like I could go on flat ground??"

    well, err, try it?



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    what exactly was that? The spotter looked like he was
    struggling more than you were. I can't imagine you'd get
    240 up with no help. If we're all wrong, load up the 240 and
    post the vid but it doesn't look possible, not from that vid.
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    My favourite thing about this lift is that it was RAW. But you spelt RAW wrong in the thread title - if you don't capitalise it, how will everyone know that you're much cooler than bench shirt cheaters?
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    Originally Posted by cmcd24 View Post
    wow this is even more help than the teen section
    well it is kind of a dumb post. how the hell would we know how much you did by watching a video????

    all that can e deduced from that is you cannot bench press 280
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    there was some help so dont start a big discussion about how much i did

    or how i didnt do anything. how much does it look like i did?

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    Heres an idea start at 225 and work your way up, then you will know how much you can do lol
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    Originally Posted by C-Money View Post
    Heres an idea start at 225 and work your way up, then you will know how much you can do lol
    or work your way down until you get it
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