Whey Protein - Ok during pregnancy?

[msulisa99]

Hey ladies!!

I am a newbie, not to weightlifting, but to the forum. I am on pregnancy #3 in the past 3 years and I am working hard right now to maintain my muscle mass and get cardio in, in the hopes after delivery my body will get back a little quicker!

Does anyone have any experience with whey protein during pregnancy? I used BSN Dessert Whey, but noticed a disclaimer stating not for use by pregnant or breast feeding women.

Any ideas or suggestions? There seems to be a lot of conflicting info out there on it.

[MHP-Stan]

Hey ladies!!

I am a newbie, not to weightlifting, but to the forum. I am on pregnancy #3 in the past 3 years and I am working hard right now to maintain my muscle mass and get cardio in, in the hopes after delivery my body will get back a little quicker!

Does anyone have any experience with whey protein during pregnancy? I used BSN Dessert Whey, but noticed a disclaimer stating not for use by pregnant or breast feeding women.

Any ideas or suggestions? There seems to be a lot of conflicting info out there on it.

protein supplementation is ideal for pregnany woman. the protein source may be the only issue. may want to look into soy and/or egg sources. but overall, protein supplements are fine.

[msulisa99]

protein supplementation is ideal for pregnany woman. the protein source may be the only issue. may want to look into soy and/or egg sources. but overall, protein supplements are fine.

Thank you, thank you!!! I think it is more a issue staying with something that is 100% whey and avoiding the supplements.

[Gzus]

I think it is more a issue staying with something that is 100% whey and avoiding the supplements.

100% Whey is the #1 selling supplement on bb.com. Would be hard to avoid.

[DistinctChoice]

The whey is not the problem, the synthetic additives are.

Look for the natural version of Optimum Nutrition's whey products. They still taste good but don't have artificial flavors/colors/sweeteners. Otherwise, you might have to look at pricier premium or organic options. Douglas Labs is based in Pittsburgh, but their stuff is only available through health care professionals.

[Eileen]

Also might be worth looking at casein proteins, as you can buy those absolutely plain and flavour them yourself. As it is slow release, it might suit you better anyway. Changes in blood sugar level can result in puke episodes.

[ives]

Ask your doctor! He or she is the only one who really knows your health and body and is in a position to give an educated and professional opinion. Be 100% honest with him or her on your exercise routine and the protein or other supps you want to take.

[Eileen]

Ask your doctor! He or she is the only one who really knows your health and body and is in a position to give an educated and professional opinion. Be 100% honest with him or her on your exercise routine and the protein or other supps you want to take.

Sorry, not sure I agree with this one. Most doctors are not well informed about sports nutrition and have no idea of the difference between whey and casein, for instance, never mind which is more suitable for a pregnant woman. Some of the advice I've heard doctors giving is hair-raising.

If you are really worried, find a specialist in the area.

[Gzus]

Sorry, not sure I agree with this one. Most doctors are not well informed about sports nutrition and have no idea of the difference between whey and casein, for instance, never mind which is more suitable for a pregnant woman. Some of the advice I've heard doctors giving is hair-raising.

If you are really worried, find a specialist in the area.

Specialist=Obstetrician=Doctor.

[ives]

Sorry, not sure I agree with this one. Most doctors are not well informed about sports nutrition and have no idea of the difference between whey and casein, for instance, never mind which is more suitable for a pregnant woman. Some of the advice I've heard doctors giving is hair-raising.

If you are really worried, find a specialist in the area.

If my OB was that clueless, I'd find a new OB (rather than ask rando online strangers without any medical degree).

[laurasaur]

You just need to make sure you are taking it from a "clean" source. No artificial sweeteners, minimal preservatives and artifical flavourings. You may have to hunt around but I certainly wouldn't be taking anything else whilst pregnant COngratulations btw

[msulisa99]

Sorry, not sure I agree with this one. Most doctors are not well informed about sports nutrition and have no idea of the difference between whey and casein, for instance, never mind which is more suitable for a pregnant woman. Some of the advice I've heard doctors giving is hair-raising.

If you are really worried, find a specialist in the area.

I agree. I already asked my doctor, and the answer I received was pretty vague and generic. I am not sure I got any valuable information from him at all

[Gzus]

I agree. I already asked my doctor, and the answer I received was pretty vague and generic. I am not sure I got any valuable information from him at all

What did your doctor actually tell you? Like ives said, it benefits you if you give the doc ALL information.

Does anyone have any experience with whey protein during pregnancy? I used BSN Dessert Whey, but noticed a disclaimer stating not for use by pregnant or breast feeding women.

The necessity of protein supplements is over stated, just like "I need whey"/"No I need casein".

Have a nutritionist+pharmacist retrieve the ingredient data for some protein supplements (make them add some notes for your doctor, which your is likely to fully understand), take it to your OB and ask which one is 100% safe.

The most I'd take from these forums is supplement flavor reviews.

[DistinctChoice]

Sorry, not sure I agree with this one. Most doctors are not well informed about sports nutrition and have no idea of the difference between whey and casein, for instance, never mind which is more suitable for a pregnant woman. Some of the advice I've heard doctors giving is hair-raising.

If you are really worried, find a specialist in the area.

Specialist=Obstetrician=Doctor.

Most medical doctors, which include both general practitioners as well as specialists such as obstetricians/gynecologists do not have a clue about nutrition and supplements. Historically, medical students only get a few dismal hours of nutrition courses in school. Ask most of them what dietary changes you might make and they'd likely hand you a copy of the food pyramid to figure out on your own. They are NOT a good source of information regarding this topic. And we're supposed to put our health in their hands? If I needed life-saving surgery, I'd put my life in their hands, but my health? Forget it. How can you get answers about health choices from someone who treats sick people all day. Think about it. Nobody without a health problem goes to their medical doctor and asks them for help on how to be healthier.

Oh, sorry. Did I rant a bit there?

[msulisa99]

Most medical doctors, which include both general practitioners as well as specialists such as obstetricians/gynecologists do not have a clue about nutrition and supplements. Historically, medical students only get a few dismal hours of nutrition courses in school. Ask most of them what dietary changes you might make and they'd likely hand you a copy of the food pyramid to figure out on your own. They are NOT a good source of information regarding this topic. And we're supposed to put our health in their hands? If I needed life-saving surgery, I'd put my life in their hands, but my health? Forget it. How can you get answers about health choices from someone who treats sick people all day. Think about it. Nobody without a health problem goes to their medical doctor and asks them for help on how to be healthier.

Oh, sorry. Did I rant a bit there?

Not at all....I appreciate the response. I agree with you. I have friends in the medical field and they openly admit they have NO idea when it comes to supplements. They could give you advice all day long on what to eat, but as far as supps they are clueless. I only have about 18 weeks left so I may just keep my protein coming from food sources and forget about any supplements for now until the baby arrives.

[Eileen]

Just on that topic, when you are breastfeeding, if you run into problems, go to a lactation consultation, whether it is a La Leche League leader or other specialist. Most family doctors have NO clue about breastfeeding, and only ever see it when it goes wrong, so they don't trust it. My local doctor rings me up when he gets questions about breastfeeding!

[Gzus]

Most medical doctors, which include both general practitioners as well as specialists such as obstetricians/gynecologists do not have a clue about nutrition and supplements

'Most' people on bb.com are overweight/underweight and have no idea what they are talking about.
No one with ANY kind of intelligence will blindly trust a doctor's advice. And if you pick a doctor with the bare minimum credentials, ask zero questions during treatment etc etc, you might as well seek advice on these forums and take what's coming.

Historically, medical students only get a few dismal hours of nutrition courses in school

How recently have you been through medical school? On a difficulty scale out of 10, how high would you rank nutrition?

They are NOT a good source of information regarding this topic

'Most' people are too lazy to effectively take advantage of quality nutritional information. The small % of people actually involved in activity that would benefit from high end nutritional consultation are either A)motivated enough to acquire the knowledge themselves B)can justify the expense of hiring such a specialist.
Everybody else can find most of what they need to know....right on the internet, free of charge. On the other hand, you cannot learn how to reattach a limb via Google. A much more pressing situation than casein vs whey.

And we're supposed to put our health in their hands? If I needed life-saving surgery, I'd put my life in their hands, but my health? Forget it. How can you get answers about health choices from someone who treats sick people all day. Think about it.

Pretty sure providing 'health care' to unhealthy people who are at 'dis-ease' by default means they know a thing or two about health.

Nobody without a health problem goes to their medical doctor and asks them for help on how to be healthier.

How often do you find someone who is healthy by complete accident? Just from a typical lifestyle.
Likely an unhealthy person realizes they cannot go up a flight of stairs without having a heart attack, a doctor says "According to my charts you are lazy fatso. Also the data from my charts comes from machines that are unavailable to non-MD holding individuals."

Adhering to the doctor's recommendations is likely to get your back to a normal level of health. Now healthy people are the ones who can inquire about dropping their 100m sprint time, increasing their VO2 max to superhuman or dropping their body fat to low single digits for some kind of fitness competition.

And I agree with you, that the above individuals would not necessarily receive the best information from a typical doctor, but it would be ridiculous to think that those people would go there.

N.B. My family doctor reattached my father's toe (severed by a forklift), supplemented the first set of mass building/nutrition information I learn from the internet and treated my early sport/weight lifting injuries.
You need to find an ex-athlete, weight training, ladies' man doctor like I have. Combined with the mentality of a sensible adult and you are equipped to live a healthy life.

[DistinctChoice]

'Most' people on bb.com are overweight/underweight and have no idea what they are talking about.
No one with ANY kind of intelligence will blindly trust a doctor's advice. And if you pick a doctor with the bare minimum credentials, ask zero questions during treatment etc etc, you might as well seek advice on these forums and take what's coming.


How recently have you been through medical school? On a difficulty scale out of 10, how high would you rank nutrition?


'Most' people are too lazy to effectively take advantage of quality nutritional information. The small % of people actually involved in activity that would benefit from high end nutritional consultation are either A)motivated enough to acquire the knowledge themselves B)can justify the expense of hiring such a specialist.
Everybody else can find most of what they need to know....right on the internet, free of charge. On the other hand, you cannot learn how to reattach a limb via Google. A much more pressing situation than casein vs whey.


Pretty sure providing 'health care' to unhealthy people who are at 'dis-ease' by default means they know a thing or two about health.


How often do you find someone who is healthy by complete accident? Just from a typical lifestyle.
Likely an unhealthy person realizes they cannot go up a flight of stairs without having a heart attack, a doctor says "According to my charts you are lazy fatso. Also the data from my charts comes from machines that are unavailable to non-MD holding individuals."

Adhering to the doctor's recommendations is likely to get your back to a normal level of health. Now healthy people are the ones who can inquire about dropping their 100m sprint time, increasing their VO2 max to superhuman or dropping their body fat to low single digits for some kind of fitness competition.

And I agree with you, that the above individuals would not necessarily receive the best information from a typical doctor, but it would be ridiculous to think that those people would go there.

N.B. My family doctor reattached my father's toe (severed by a forklift), supplemented the first set of mass building/nutrition information I learn from the internet and treated my early sport/weight lifting injuries.
You need to find an ex-athlete, weight training, ladies' man doctor like I have. Combined with the mentality of a sensible adult and you are equipped to live a healthy life.

Back about ten years ago, after much research, I chose NOT to attend medical school, chose chiropractic school instead, for the very reason that a medical education doesn't give you the knowledge and tools to get people truly healthy. Chiropractic school can, partly because nutrition and exercise are actually covered adequately in the curriculum. Before you think about making an ill-informed comment about back pain, bone-cracking, or "real" doctors or whatever else you want, do your homework on the curriculum hours spent for chiropractic school vs. medical school,and also what chiropractic is really about. The nutrition is not difficult, it's probably a 5/10, but if you're actually asking how much you learn, I'd say medical school is 1/10, while the core chiropractic curriculum is 6/10 and electives can bring you to probably 8/10 in terms of what there is to know. BTW, I graduated in 2004, and I do save lives everyday with my knowledge, expertise and abilities. So, the advice I provide is that of a doctor.

[Gzus]

Back about ten years ago, after much research, I chose NOT to attend medical school, chose chiropractic school instead, for the very reason that a medical education doesn't give you the knowledge and tools to get people truly healthy. Chiropractic school can

What is the difference between healthy and truly health? If I had to call someone truly healthy it would be a NFL running back or linebacker. High level of mental toughness and physiological well-being (team Sport psychologist), ridiculous strength, power with cardiovascular fitness (strength and conditioning coach), hydrated/fed (team nutritionist). And when they rotate their foot 180 degrees, an Orthopedist to resolve the dis-ese that they are experiencing. And throw in a massage therapist after game day and on weekends.

partly because nutrition and exercise are actually covered adequately in the curriculum.

Nutrition/exercise, not particularly difficult which is why 'adequate covering' in a curriculum is sufficient to make someone relatively knowledgeable on the topics. But who are the pinnacle of exercise/nutrition wisdom? See above.

Before you think about making an ill-informed comment about back pain, bone-cracking, or "real" doctors or whatever else you want, do your homework on the curriculum hours spent for chiropractic school vs. medical school,and also what chiropractic is really about

Oh I love my chiropractor and the magic he does on my battered back. But I also love the old Asian woman who removed my initial sciatic pain with needles while I took a nap. But I'd still guide friends/family to see an Orthopedic doctor in lower medium to worse case scenarios. An Orthopedic doctor has my bet vs a Chiropractor in a fight to the death with spines as weapons.

The nutrition is not difficult, it's probably a 5/10, but if you're actually asking how much you learn, I'd say medical school is 1/10, while the core chiropractic curriculum is 6/10 and electives can bring you to probably 8/10 in terms of what there is to know.

A physically active pre-med student with aspirations of a neurosurgery can take electives and boost his/her already respectable knowledge of exercise and nutrition to an impressive level which would be more than sufficient for dealing with most of the population, even thought it doesn't say so on his badge. In the same way someone can be overwhelmed with the thought of medschool and take the easiest route to some kind of certificate.
It is not a stretch to think that a MD, after x amount of years of schools has the intelligence and aptitude to learn a decent amount of nutritional information over a couple days. Too bad they are usually busy doing their job restoring people to health.

Most medical doctors, which include both general practitioners as well as specialists such as obstetricians/gynecologists do not have a clue about nutrition and supplements.

I'll wait for an OB to stumble in here and say that dealing with the needs of active pregnant women is not covered in their education.
Let's say the situation was that grim, it would take very little for an OB to bring themselves up to speed on a good buy from bb.com. Updating a nutritionist to safely deal with a pregnant woman and the complications of being in such a state???

If I were a pregnant woman who wanted to workout, I'd tell it to my OB. Insufficient answer, get a better OB like ives said. Simple.

If I needed life-saving surgery, I'd put my life in their hands, but my health? Forget it.How can you get answers about health choices from someone who treats sick people all day.

Treat sick people all day, good practice for saving lives.
Treat pregnant people all day, good practice for....treating pregnant people (following your logic).

I do save lives everyday with my knowledge, expertise and abilities.

If my life needing saving/had a life threatening condition, a bar would be higher than a chiropractor on my list of places to go.

So, the advice I provide is that of a doctor

Remind me again which doctors were the ones who were safe to get advice from.

[DistinctChoice]

What is the difference between healthy and truly health? If I had to call someone truly healthy it would be a NFL running back or linebacker. High level of mental toughness and physiological well-being (team Sport psychologist), ridiculous strength, power with cardiovascular fitness (strength and conditioning coach), hydrated/fed (team nutritionist). And when they rotate their foot 180 degrees, an Orthopedist to resolve the dis-ese that they are experiencing. And throw in a massage therapist after game day and on weekends.


Nutrition/exercise, not particularly difficult which is why 'adequate covering' in a curriculum is sufficient to make someone relatively knowledgeable on the topics. But who are the pinnacle of exercise/nutrition wisdom? See above.


Oh I love my chiropractor and the magic he does on my battered back. But I also love the old Asian woman who removed my initial sciatic pain with needles while I took a nap. But I'd still guide friends/family to see an Orthopedic doctor in lower medium to worse case scenarios. An Orthopedic doctor has my bet vs a Chiropractor in a fight to the death with spines as weapons.


A physically active pre-med student with aspirations of a neurosurgery can take electives and boost his/her already respectable knowledge of exercise and nutrition to an impressive level which would be more than sufficient for dealing with most of the population, even thought it doesn't say so on his badge. In the same way someone can be overwhelmed with the thought of medschool and take the easiest route to some kind of certificate.
It is not a stretch to think that a MD, after x amount of years of schools has the intelligence and aptitude to learn a decent amount of nutritional information over a couple days. Too bad they are usually busy doing their job restoring people to health.


I'll wait for an OB to stumble in here and say that dealing with the needs of active pregnant women is not covered in their education.
Let's say the situation was that grim, it would take very little for an OB to bring themselves up to speed on a good buy from bb.com. Updating a nutritionist to safely deal with a pregnant woman and the complications of being in such a state???

If I were a pregnant woman who wanted to workout, I'd tell it to my OB. Insufficient answer, get a better OB like ives said. Simple.


Treat sick people all day, good practice for saving lives.
Treat pregnant people all day, good practice for....treating pregnant people (following your logic).

If my life needing saving/had a life threatening condition, a bar would be higher than a chiropractor on my list of places to go.


Remind me again which doctors were the ones who were safe to get advice from.

Pre-med? I might give you the benefit of the doubt and presume you have pre-acceptance, however if you don't have the acceptance letter (like the ones I received from Boston U., Tulane and U of MI), it's the equivalent of playing basketball at the YMCA and saying that you are pre-NBA.

You seem angry and sad all at the same time, but not sad in an emotional way. You're not worth my time, so I'll only leave you with this:

Let me know when you want to start comparing body counts of lives lost under the hands of the medical profession versus the chiropractic profession.

I'm done.

[msulisa99]

Pre-med? I might give you the benefit of the doubt and presume you have pre-acceptance, however if you don't have the acceptance letter (like the ones I received from Boston U., Tulane and U of MI), it's the equivalent of playing basketball at the YMCA and saying that you are pre-NBA.

You seem angry and sad all at the same time, but not sad in an emotional way. You're not worth my time, so I'll only leave you with this:

Let me know when you want to start comparing body counts of lives lost under the hands of the medical profession versus the chiropractic profession.

I'm done.

I was looking for some info and it turned into a debate and p*ssing match. Thanks everyone for the advice and I am sorry the thread ended up like this

[Gzus]

Pre-med? I might give you the benefit of the doubt and presume you have pre-acceptance, however if you don't have the acceptance letter (like the ones I received from Boston U., Tulane and U of MI), it's the equivalent of playing basketball at the YMCA and saying that you are pre-NBA.

I never said I was pre-med, I used an example of a pre-med student simply taking electives that have future value, instead of easy useless classes.

Pre-Med-->Med school.
NBA on the other hand, High School-->College ball-->NBA. But unlike a career in medicine, you can skip the 'pre-med' step of basketball and go straight from high school to pro.
So that was a horrible decision using the NBA to make your point.

You seem angry and sad all at the same time, but not sad in an emotional way.

I'll go to a psychologist, and get back to you. However my chiropractor is a very insightful man so I might just talk to him while he gets me truly healthy.
Hopefully I'll remember to mention you during my session, so we can get to the root of your hatred of medical doctors

You're not worth my time

If your tears are the price for ensuring that someone continues to workout safely through their pregnancy. Here is a tissue.

Let me know when you want to start comparing body counts of lives lost under the hands of the medical profession versus the chiropractic profession.

Are we including visits by people with life threatening conditions?

Chiropractors do not work in emergency rooms, treating people with gun shot wounds, burns or severed limbs. They don't do invasive surgery to remove tumors.
The people chiropractors generally deal with, casually stroll into their offices.

So only an idiot would be be surprised that more people die under the care of medical doctors vs chiropractors. That fact that this was your closing statement would upset even my chiropractor, the magical all curing sorcerer that he is.


I too am done *cry*. So I'll leave you with this.

from my understanding, a chiropractor can re-align anything an osteopath can, so why avoid one like the plaque but not the other?

If I was Mr. 2004 chiropractic-graduate-acceptance-letter-life-saver, I wouldn't post something that gives the impression that I only have a better than vague understanding of said individuals' capabilities.

[MedicJHB]

You just need to make sure you are taking it from a "clean" source. No artificial sweeteners, minimal preservatives and artifical flavourings. You may have to hunt around but I certainly wouldn't be taking anything else whilst pregnant COngratulations btw

Agreed, any supps you take whether your pregnant or not, should be from a clean source. consumer reports found that many popular protien powders had *acceptable* (rated by FDA) amounts of heavy metals.
" All drinks in our tests had at least one sample containing one or more of the following contaminants: arsenic, cadmium, lead, and mercury. Those metals can have toxic effects on several organs in the body."

Im pregenant with my second, and my husband pointed out this particular article to me. we both decided its best that I EAT my protien and increase my soy and cows milk...both during pregnancy and breastfeeding.
I realize this thread is old, but I was searching for some info on the matter and figured others are doing the same.

btw, this thread becomes less helpful as the bitch fest between two respondents start. just saying....

[sonti]

Agreed, any supps you take whether your pregnant or not, should be from a clean source. consumer reports found that many popular protien powders had *acceptable* (rated by FDA) amounts of heavy metals.
" All drinks in our tests had at least one sample containing one or more of the following contaminants: arsenic, cadmium, lead, and mercury. Those metals can have toxic effects on several organs in the body."

Im pregenant with my second, and my husband pointed out this particular article to me. we both decided its best that I EAT my protien and increase my soy and cows milk...both during pregnancy and breastfeeding.
I realize this thread is old, but I was searching for some info on the matter and figured others are doing the same.

btw, this thread becomes less helpful as the bitch fest between two respondents start. just saying....

Lima beans contain arsenic as well, do you tell people that lima beans are also poisonous? Or is that not headline worthy like this "new" protein powder revelation?

[MedicJHB]

Lima beans contain arsenic as well, do you tell people that lima beans are also poisonous? Or is that not headline worthy like this "new" protein powder revelation?

If you were eating lima beans as often as most drink thier protien, then yes...especially if one is pregnant. Its not a matter of "new" revelation, but rather insight of the ingredients not listed on the container.
Pregnant women are also advised to stay away from certian fish because of there mercury levels, which can be poisonous to a fetus.

[Num3n]

Hey ladies!!

I am a newbie, not to weightlifting, but to the forum. I am on pregnancy #3 in the past 3 years and I am working hard right now to maintain my muscle mass and get cardio in, in the hopes after delivery my body will get back a little quicker!

Does anyone have any experience with whey protein during pregnancy? I used BSN Dessert Whey, but noticed a disclaimer stating not for use by pregnant or breast feeding women.

Any ideas or suggestions? There seems to be a lot of conflicting info out there on it.

make sure you go with something from allmax or another brand that tests for heavy metals. otherwise yes it would be bad and you could poison ur baby.

[Eileen]

It's good to try to eat the best quality food you can, but don't get paranoid. The female body has been designed to ensure that the baby gets the best of whatever is going, and if the mother eats something which is not good, she's likely to puke it all out.

During my first pregnancy, I puked every time I ate ordinary cabbage, but I had no problem with organic cabbage. I found out later that regular cabbage gets a huge amount of pesticide spray.

[xStevenx]

make sure you go with something from allmax or another brand that tests for heavy metals. otherwise yes it would be bad and you could poison ur baby.

Yes. Each and every batch of Allmax Proteins are lab tested. For purity, cleanliness (contaminants) and quality.

Sourced from high quality sources (USA, Canada, and New Zeland).

Tastes and mix great.

We have ALLWHEY. Which is a blended protein. Isoflex which is a 100% Pure Whey Isolate. If you are worried about sweetners and whatnot we also have IsoNatural. Which is just plain 100% natural whey protein isolate.

Top notch stuff!

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[rop23]

Im clearly late to this thread but, as an ex lactation counselor I will say that most ob's have NO IDEA about breastfeeding and supplements. Ob's are glorified surgeons, and pediatricians are also not the best to ask breastfeeding advice. neither of them has the proper training, your better off asking a lactation consultant or counselor. You can always check out kellymom.com to see what is and isn't excreted into breast milk. Medication and mothers milk is a great book to have on hand for all nursing moms as well for a quick reference. For the most part, your body knows what baby should and should not have and will "filter" out the bad. (not puke it out that is a load of bunk) but some things do leach into breast milk that baby should not have and sadly many of those things are found in supplements. Hemp protein is safe.