Post-workout carbs on reduced-carb diet?

[d!abolic]

I'm going reduced or low carb next week, and am trying to decide between the two. Reduced allows for 100g on training days and 70g on off days. Traditional low-carb is 30 i believe. It all comes down to this: on i can have 50G of post-workout carbs on one diet but none on the other. So which way should i go? Will post-workout carbs do more harm than good?

[wildman536]

well first off bro 30 and under is Keto. So with about 100 id have about 30-50 Grms Simple Carbs PWorkout!!

[Luke530]

low carb diets (sub 150g) suck... not good for you at all...


I can't stand how carb-phobic people are becoming...

[wildman536]

I heat you there, I used to be that way (Remember) LIL ol Wildman was only Eating like 100-120 Grms of Carbs a Day and sat back everynight and wondered why he wasnt gaining.... Hmmmm I now will probally be Cutting with 200-250 Carbs a day, the only thing is is that they will all be Clean and Low GI besides PWOrkout.

[Luke530]

Originally posted by wildman536
I heat you there, I used to be that way (Remember) LIL ol Wildman was only Eating like 100-120 Grms of Carbs a Day and sat back everynight and wondered why he wasnt gaining.... Hmmmm I now will probally be Cutting with 200-250 Carbs a day, the only thing is is that they will all be Clean and Low GI besides PWOrkout.

yep yep... my point exactly...

[wildman536]

Through MAJOR Trial and Error I figured out that Breakfast and PostWorkout are the most Important times to Eat Carbs. Just dont Go OverBoard.

[nolimitsfor2003]

wildman or luke what kind of cut diet do you use if you use a tradtional low carb diet if you got time could you post an example of your daily diet if you got time or whatever just curious not doubting

[Luke530]

BWx12-13 (let's use someone who weighs 170)

2200 calories

225g protein
163g carbs
78g fat

carbs exclusively at breakfast & pre- post- workout (54g per meal)

protein and fat at every other meal...

[nolimitsfor2003]

thanks for doing that real quick

I am new to the cut thing and I am super cabr caucious. I am cut down to 178 10bf and on a work out day ill have like 60 70 carbs for breakfast from oat meal and maybe like 10 from some blueberries and how every many cabrs is in ground flax seeds like i have a tbs and that is the carbs I eat in my pre work out meal I work out in the morning and then post work out ill have like 40 0r 30 simple carbs and 2 scoops of wheny and then an hour later ill have like some chicken breast and a lot of green veggies so I am saying on work out days ill have like a 130 carbs


and on non work outdays ill have a half cup of oat meal and like a mrp shake and green veggies so on non work out days i only have like 80 carbs. but I bump the fat and protein up

what adjustments do you think I should make

[pinoy]

i'm also doing this diet, it's the t-dawg diet - http://www.t-mag.com/nation_articles/243tdawg.jsp

i only eat carbs in the morning and pre/post wo nutition, and veggies and little fruit rest of day. i get around 100g carbs a day with one healthy carb up day a week

[Luke530]

Originally posted by nolimitsfor2003


what adjustments do you think I should make

I just posted them... I wrote macronutrient ratios for you in the post above...

[nolimitsfor2003]

what about on days when i dont work out what do you think the cabs shoule be


and also do you thinik that pople like myself on low cabr diet need carb up days

[wildman536]

keep the Carbs the same just change The Simple ones to Complex.

Listen to Luke bro he knows what hes talking about.

[Luke530]

Originally posted by nolimitsfor2003
what about on days when i dont work out what do you think the cabs shoule be


and also do you thinik that pople like myself on low cabr diet need carb up days

yes... like marc (wildman) said... keep everything the same... if you would like... you can take the carb calories from your post-workout shake and change them into healthy fats... I would not see a problem with that...

one thing you should never do is eat carbs and fats in the same meal...

either protein + carbs or protein + fats (veggies are ok)

[Luke530]

just remember... weather you eat 800 calories worth of carbs and 500 worth of fats or 500 from carbs and 800 from fats... as long as both sources are high quality, you WILL lose fat... you may just have a bit more energy consuming more carbohydrates... and you will probably lose less muscle... both are needed, just don't go overboard on one or the other... that is why what I wrote out for you works....

[nolimitsfor2003]

thanks for the help bros i am def going to bump my carbs up starting tomorrow

[nolimitsfor2003]

i got one quick one you said no carbs and fat in the same meal and i have heard that a bunch of times and i dont doubt that but what about for breakfast with my cup of oat meal i have some ground flax seeds is this ok

thanks

[Luke530]

Originally posted by nolimitsfor2003
i got one quick one you said no carbs and fat in the same meal and i have heard that a bunch of times and i dont doubt that but what about for breakfast with my cup of oat meal i have some ground flax seeds is this ok

thanks

yeah... you'll be fine at breakfast if you would like... it wont hurt

[wildman536]

What about instead of Flax i have Fish Oils?

[Luke530]

Originally posted by wildman536
What about instead of Flax i have Fish Oils?

fine, EPA/DHA may be more important than just the o-3s from flax

[bachovas]

Originally posted by Luke530
BWx12-13 (let's use someone who weighs 170)

2200 calories

225g protein
163g carbs
78g fat

carbs exclusively at breakfast & pre- post- workout (54g per meal)

protein and fat at every other meal...

Luke, would you consider this over having P/F until workout and then 3-4 meals P/C post-w, then back to P/F. You know, the Berardi style.

For both cutting and bulking?

[Luke530]

bacho... yeah, I would definately consider it for both bulking and cutting, I do not see why not... there is no reason to go overboard on carbs if you don't have to...

the only thing about berardi's timing method is that it does not work for everyone... depending on when they workout... if you workout very late... and you can only have one meal post-workoutm then by all means have carbs pre- workout and at breakfast, and possibly the meal after breakfast.

if you workout very early, have a pre-workout carb meal as well, and switch to p+f 2-3 meals post-workout

I think a 40-30-30 diet is great for adding lean mass and sheeding fat.

[nolimitsfor2003]

i heard that you should not have fat untill 4 hours after workouts because it slows down the the absortion of the protein is that tru

and also witht the no carb fat rule does that extend to greenveggies could i eat like chicken breast tbs of flax and some broc or salad or something like that

[pinoy]

yes veggies are fine to eat with fat