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    Look what just started up - American National Party

    American National Party has just started with the help of the BNP and a select few other European Parties.

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    The American National Party and those involved with the project are independent, free-thinking, peaceful, and determined European-Americans dedicated to the issues and challenges that face the European-American community in the 21st century. We are driven by a strong sense of justice and a love of our people, our culture(s), and our rights as an autonomous people. It is the appreciation of true diversity that we act in defense of Nationalism ? not just in defense of our own ethnic and cultural communities, but also for other communities of people whom have just as much of a right as we do to preserve their ancestral continuity.

    We seek to garner a better understanding of ethnocentrism and seek to dispel some of the more insidious misconceptions. Hopefully, through better understanding, society can start to take under consideration viewpoints, though currently controversial, that might better develop a more lasting peace for all peoples.


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    hmm, this interests me. from what i heard and read, i like what i hear. i will do some research on them.
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    They claim that they want to safeguard and protect European-American culture. What exactly is European-American culture? Europe is made up of many different countries and ethnic groups. There are the French, Germans, Italians, etc. Each with their own unique cultures. How exactly can they claim to protect this culture?

    Seems to me like they are beating around the bush and not saying what they really mean. Protecting white culture.

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    Originally Posted by nitr0x2 View Post
    They claim that they want to safeguard and protect European-American culture. What exactly is European-American culture? Europe is made up of many different countries and ethnic groups. There are the French, Germans, Italians, etc. Each with their own unique cultures. How exactly can they claim to protect this culture?

    Seems to me like they are beating around the bush and not saying what they really mean. Protecting white culture.
    So you dont support preservation of european-american culture?

    Hm...

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    Originally Posted by nitr0x2 View Post

    Seems to me like they are beating around the bush and not saying what they really mean. Protecting white culture.
    if thats the case, so what? all other races can proudly claim they want to protect their culture.
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    Originally Posted by otisthebat View Post
    if thats the case, so what? all other races can proudly claim they want to protect their culture.
    yep
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    "Nationalism" is an instant turn-off. I'm sure the party isn't "racist", but there's still a passive xenophobic ring to their platform that is repugnant.

    I think political parties should be based on principles, not preserving a culture; and preserving a culture doesn't even make sense since a culture is the sum of a group of people's lifestyle. It's not something you can preserve unless you freeze people in time.

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    Originally Posted by W3Z0 View Post
    So you dont support preservation of european-american culture?

    Hm...
    I support the preservation of european-american culture just as much as the members of that political party support the preservation of african-american culture. You feel me brah?

    Originally Posted by otisthebat View Post
    if thats the case, so what? all other races can proudly claim they want to protect their culture.
    Thats fine, but it seems to me like they are afraid to say it. Say what you mean. I don't care what they support, that is their right. I just think the idea of a 'european-american' culture seems like a joke. If you want to support white culture, then just say it.

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    Originally Posted by tebriel View Post
    They're racists, what a bunch of pussies, just come out and say it. "white" american culture isn't anything to be all that proud of. Certainly not much to protect. Neither is "black" american culture. people are stupid when they subdivide themselves based on a social construct.
    so having pride in your race is racist? euro-american culture built america from the ground up. that sounds like something to be proud of to me.
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    Originally Posted by nitr0x2 View Post
    Thats fine, but it seems to me like they are afraid to say it. Say what you mean. I don't care what they support, that is their right. I just think the idea of a 'european-american' culture seems like a joke. If you want to support white culture, then just say it.
    how do you feel about the term African-American for people who have never lived one day in Africa?
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    Originally Posted by otisthebat View Post
    euro-american culture built america from the ground up. that sounds like something to be proud of to me.
    No shti.

    But you really have to understand that the people who dont support it, or a large majority who dont support it, dont fully "appreciate" our euro heritage.

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    Originally Posted by Beatitude View Post
    "Nationalism" is an instant turn-off. I'm sure the party isn't "racist", but there's still a passive xenophobic ring to their platform that is repugnant.

    I think political parties should be based on principles, not preserving a culture; and preserving a culture doesn't even make sense since a culture is the sum of a group of people's lifestyle. It's not something you can preserve unless you freeze people in time.
    When you're being beat to death by 50 Cent and his homies, YOU WILL WISH YOU WERE ON OUR SIDE.

    The Nationalism movement has spread all through Europe. The U.S. is jumping on... now we just need to get Canada, Australia and New Zealand onboard!

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    Originally Posted by rockyl686 View Post
    how do you feel about the term African-American for people who have never lived one day in Africa?
    Its pretty stupid in my opinion, but its the mainstream and I'm just goin with it

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    Originally Posted by otisthebat View Post
    so having pride in your race is racist?
    Not really, it's just completely pointless IMO. What's there to be proud about? What did you do to be born into your "race"?

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    Originally Posted by 14kRPM View Post
    When you're being beat to death by 50 Cent and his homies, YOU WILL WISH YOU WERE ON OUR SIDE.

    The Nationalism movement has spread all through Europe. The U.S. is jumping on... now we just need to get Canada, Australia and New Zealand onboard!
    Gang culture is an inner city crisis. You go to a run-down inner city area full of violence and you'll find white kids doing the same stuff.

    You have to base a party on principles, not a culture, ethnic group, or race. Does preserving white culture mean we should encourage and try to preserve the KKK, ruthless consumerism, Nazis, and emo goth culture? Because all of those things were primarily initiated by whites.

    I'm assuming your answer would be no. We need to keep the good and destroy the evil, and for that, you need a principle-based platform. That means we be critical towards everybody and anybody, instead of setting up some sort of idyllic, unrealistic image of white culture being the incarnation of My Little Pony.
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    I'm picturing them undoing race relations, accompanying isolationist movements. F that. Sounds like disapproval of a white American marrying someone from the Middle East, North Africa, South America.
    F That. I need my dark-featured women!!
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    Besides, with political clout a party like that may start discouraging foreigners about coming to the US for college. Who the hell is going to be in the science classrooms if the Asians aren't? Watch American R&D come to a hault
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    hmmm... all I see is incredibly vague rhetoric ... "hope" and "change" come to mind...

    are they a whites only socialist party like the BNP?

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    I'm picturing them undoing race relations, accompanying isolationist movements. F that. Sounds like disapproval of a white American marrying someone from the Middle East, North Africa, South America.
    F That. I need my dark-featured women!!
    Any movement with such undertones of self imposed segregation is trouble ahead
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    Trading one group who is looking to advance people of a particular background for another is straight up ignorant.

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    why is there even any serious discussion of these wingnuts taking place? they don't matter and will never matter. the best theyll ever do is maybe win a seat in the mississippi state legislature, or something.

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    But you really have to understand that the people who dont support it, or a large majority who dont support it, dont fully "appreciate" our euro heritage.
    WTF is "European" heritage? Whenever I see some KKK wannabe spouting crap about European heritage, it makes me laugh. Europe is a diverse continent with a number of different cultures. Maybe you should pick up some literature aside from "Guns & Ammo" and educate yourself, numbnuts.
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    Originally Posted by BahadurShah View Post
    WTF is "European" heritage? ... Europe is a diverse continent with a number of different cultures.
    Could you not say the exact same thing about "African" heritage, "Asian" heritage and "Hispanic" heritage?
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    I'm American, not German. There's a difference between "location" and "nationality". Thanks.

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    Originally Posted by FIVE OAKES View Post
    Could you not say the exact same thing about "African" heritage, "Asian" heritage and "Hispanic" heritage?
    Yup (though Hispanic heritage isn't really totally analogous).

    But people don't usually use any of those terms as euphemisms for "I'm a racist dickhead," so it's not quite as annoying.
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    Originally Posted by BahadurShah View Post
    Yup (though Hispanic heritage isn't really totally analogous).

    But people don't usually use any of those terms as euphemisms for "I'm a racist dickhead," so it's not quite as annoying.
    No, actually your assertion that anyone who is white can't claim "European heritage", without being a racist dickhead - and not having a problem with any other ethnicity doing the same thing - makes you the racist dickhead.
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    I'm American, not German. There's a difference between "location" and "nationality". Thanks.

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