Mac is superior to PC in every way

[Acere]

Give me an argument for how they aren't.

[steve_nash]

in before homos

[Swoyer]

Give me an argument for how they aren't.

I second your rash statement.

[tomsun]

1 - Service packs don’t cost $199
Since Mac OS X was launched in 2001, there have been four “new versions” of the operating system – Puma, Jaguar, Panther and Tiger – with a fifth, Leopard, due imminently. That’s almost one a year, each costing a princely $199 – racking up a total bill of close to $1000 for anyone who’s bought every version. And they say Windows is expensive.

Apple has effectively introduced the first subscription operating system, and has somehow gotten away with it. If Microsoft had done likewise, Bill Gates would have been before the anti-competition courts quicker than you could say, “isn’t $199 a bit steep for a service pack?”. The Mac zealots claim that each new cat really is a new operating system, but that argument doesn’t bear scrutiny. Take Panther (Mac OS X 10.3): the Apple press release hails “more than 150 breakthrough new features”, the pick of which are a new “Finder”, a way to see all your open windows at once, and bundled video-messaging software. God knows how insignificant the other 147 were.

2 - No price premium for flashy design
There still isn’t a PC maker on the planet that can hold a candle to Apple when it comes to product design. But not everyone wants or needs a computer that looks like it fell off the back of a Bang & Olufsen lorry. Macs routinely cost more than their PC equivalents. The cheapest Mac you can buy, the Mac mini, costs $949 and comes with a piddling 60GB hard disk, a meagre 512MB of RAM and no screen. Pop over to Dell, and that same $949 will buy you a Dimension E520 Vista PC with a 160GB hard disk, 1GB of RAM and a 19in flat panel display. Dell’s cheapest system costs just $898 at the time of writing. We’re not expecting Dell’s bargain-basement models to trouble our A List anytime soon, and Kate Moss wouldn’t be seen dead near one, but they’ll suffice for a cheap office PC that sits under a desk all day or a computer for the kids’ homework. Mac buyers simply don’t have that choice.

3 - Thousands of decent games
“I was designed for the home,” scream the Mac ads. You were? Then how come you’ve got such a poor bunch of games? At the time of writing, the top-selling Mac games on Amazon.com were World of Warcraft (yawn), Crazy Machines: The Wacky Contraptions Game (What the?!) and The Sims II – a two-year-old title designed for loners who need imaginary friends to compensate for the lack of actual people in their pitiful lives. Want the adrenaline-filled 3D action and spectacular graphics of Rainbow Six: Vegas? Or, a spin round the track at high-velocity in a beautifully rendered Porsche in Test Drive Unlimited? Want to revisit a seminal classic such as Half-Life 2? Sorry, you can’t. Computer says no. That’s not to mention the fact that the PC has a near-monopoly on all the decent graphics hardware. And even if you did want to upgrade your Mac’s graphics, you probably couldn’t anyway. “Nvidia graphics options for Apple desktops and notebooks can only be purchased through Apple or as Apple update kits,” warns Nvidia’s website. If you’re even halfway serious about gaming, you need a PC.

4 - Two mouse buttons
Yes, we know Macs are meant to be so simple your Grandma could partition the hard disk while solving the Countdown conundrum, but do they really need to be dumbed down to use only one mouse button? A monkey with Attention Deficit Disorder could master two buttons, but Apple’s (seemingly not ironically named) Mighty Mouse resorts to a single mouse click by default. Yes, you can easily tweak the driver for two buttons or simply plug in a normal mouse, but a firing squad is too lenient for the imbecile who decided that pressing Ctrl and left-click was a better out-of-the-box solution than a single press of the right button.

5 - Broadband just works
It’s hardly their fault, but our poor Mac friends aren’t always well served by the ISPs. Broadband modems can fail to work properly on Macs (especially with Bigpond cable), and when customers attempt to phone the tech-support lines for assistance, they’re none too amused when the script-reading person at the other end tells them to “click on the Start button and select Control Panel”. Finding a reliable ISP is hard enough; finding one that also supports Macs is a headache you really don’t need.

6 - Custom-made systems
Gaming PCs, video workstations, media centres, digital photo PCs, build-your-own, mini-chassis, midi-towers, business PCs… need we go on? There are dozens of different desktop PC configurations that can be fine-tailored with thousands of specialist components to meet a buyer’s requirements. How many flavours do Mac desktops come in? Three. Mac mini, iMac and Mac Pro. If none of those meets your needs, take a hike.

The open architecture of the PC platform, on the other hand, gives you access to an immense range of configurations, enabling you to tailor a PC to your needs without wasting money on capabilities you won’t use. It also means you can make modular upgrades, such as fitting a new CPU and motherboard without having to replace your existing graphics card and hard drives. Try that with an iMac.

7 - Macs are months behind
If you want cutting-edge hardware, you need a PC. Remember when the Intel Core CPU was released? Apple finally jumped ship from *** processors, even though PC processors had been outstripping the PowerPC G5 CPU for years. But even though the agreement was trumpeted from the rooftops by Intel and Apple, it still took months for the complete Mac range to go fully Intel. Core 2 was even worse, with almost the whole PC market having them before Apple shipped a single Core 2 Mac. The same is true of almost all new technology. Not only is there no option to buy a desktop or laptop Mac with an internal HD DVD or Blu-ray drive, you can’t buy an internal Mac-compatible one at all. The same is again true of graphics: while the PC has up-to-the-minute 3D video hardware, Macs are an entire generation behind. And while PC users have had super-fast draft 802.11n wireless for nearly two years, Apple users have only just acquired it.

8 - Life beyond 1st January
It isn’t only children’s sticky fingers that will take the gloss off the shiny new MacBook you got for Christmas – the new line-up of laptops announced at the annual MacWorld show every January will leave your cutting-edge gift looking so last year, almost immediately. Yes, consumer-friendly, cuddly-wuddly Apple decides to spring new products onto its customers just days after the peak buying period every single year, and there’s little point in trying to second-guess what the company is about to launch, because it cloaks its announcements with an iron curtain the USSR would have been proud of. Thankfully, there’s no such post-Christmas Microsoft jamboree.

9 - Superior search facilities
Our counterparts over at MacUser swear blind that the Macintosh Finder is just as good as Windows Explorer. Yet even after five major releases of Mac OS X, it lacks many features that Windows power users take for granted, such as resizing windows from any corner or edge, using cut and paste to move files around, and renaming files from within a file requester. It doesn’t even offer a working “maximise window” button. If you just want a computer that looks pretty then the Finder might suit you, but if you actually want to manipulate files then Windows Explorer wins hands down.

10 - Safety in numbers
While having one company controlling both the hardware and operating system undoubtedly has its advantages, it also leaves Mac fans with all their eggs in one titanium-clad basket. Apple could, for example, decide to drop Mac OS X at any time – not entirely out of the question now that Intel-based Macs are perfectly capable of running Windows. What would happen to Mac OS devotees and developers then? It also leaves Apple remarkably vulnerable when innovations go wrong – the ill-fated Cube placed the company in deep trouble, for example, whereas international giants such as HP and Sony can tinker with experimental form factors such as smart displays and UMPCs, without worrying that commercial failure could potentially cripple the company.

12 - Microsoft’s on your team
Microsoft may be the company everyone loves to hate, and it doesn’t always play by the Queensbury Rules, but if there’s going to be a domineering, cash-rich mega-corporation in the industry, you definitely want it to be on your team. The PC is, of course, Microsoft’s platform of choice, and so the Windows market is the first to benefit from ground-breaking new products such as Office 2007. Mac owners will have to wait until later this year for a new version of Office, and even then it will be largely devoid of the well-received Ribbon interface that Microsoft first introduced into the PC version in January.

15 - No confusing version numbers
Here are the operating system requirements for Apple’s iLife 06 suite: “Mac OS X v10.3.9 or v10.4.3 or later; v10.4.4 recommended.” Aperture, meanwhile demands “Mac OS X v10.4.7 (or later)”; while Logic Express 7 recommends “Mac OS X v10.4.3 or later for PowerPC-based systems; Mac OS X v10.4.4 or later for Intel-based systems.” And yet Apple’s website proudly proclaims, “there is only one version of Mac OS X”. Come again? Even the most complicated Windows system requirements will only specify a service pack, and considering they’re only released once every few years, that’s hardly likely to confuse your Dad when he’s browsing the software shelves in Harvey Norman.

18 - Far better media capability
Media-centre PCs have come on leaps and bounds over the past year or so, with a selection of attractive units that won’t look horribly out of place underneath the svelte 32in LCD screen in the lounge, nor make a noise like a 747 preparing for take-off. Windows Media Center is now built into Vista Home Premium and Ultimate, and turns your PC into a very effective personal video recorder, with its excellent onscreen television guide and the option to record all the episodes in a series. Apple’s Front Row, on the other hand, doesn’t offer any television features – in fact, it’s little more than a flashy front end for its iTunes software.

20 - Not so insecure
Apple makes a great fuss about the Mac’s supposed immunity to viruses, and it’s true that the platform has historically been less vulnerable to virus attack than the PC. However, to suggest, as it does, that your PC is at risk from more than 100,000 viruses, is ludicrous. Make sure your Windows XP or Vista system is up to date, get a decent virus checker (such as the free AVG Antivirus package or the A-Listed F-Secure 2007 suite) and we sincerely doubt you’ll be troubled by one virus a year, let alone 100,000.

21 - Copious amount of freeware
One of the advantages of Windows’ long tenure at the top is the vast quantity of freely downloadable software now available. To be sure, there’s an active Mac shareware community as well, but the numbers speak for themselves: the download.com file repository lists more than 55,000 packages of freeware and shareware for Windows, compared to just 4,586 for the Mac. Which library would you rather have access to?

24 - Full selection of peripherals
Macs are shut out from a wide range of products and services, from Windows-only home security kits to music download stores and MP3 players – including the Creative Zen Vision:M. Even relatively simple peripherals, such as the handy U3 memory sticks, are persona non grata on Mac OS X.


yes taken from
http://www.pcauthority.com.au/Featur...an-macs.aspx/2

[AusterMule]

in b4 swoy-

...nvm

[kaze06]

Because Mac users don't know how to shut the **** up.

[polishurpolish]

im never going back to a PC

[Gancor]

People who care about PC vs Mac are inferior in every way

[Mr.Roarke]

im never going back to a PC

this.

[Chaosvash]

Give me an argument for how they aren't.

Give me an argument of how they are?

[.Locus]

They're more expensive, even with the price reduction and all the new incentives.
Some of the macbooks have integrated graphics which suck.
If you get a virus, you basically have to reformat.

[RetardedNinja]

Most mac products are impossible to upgrade there hardware. They are way overpriced. good luck getting pc games working on them. They DO freeze up.

oh and did I mention theyre overpriced?

[.Locus]

http://www.pcauthority.com.au/Featur...than-macs.aspx

'nuff said

[Jrc731]

http://www.pcauthority.com.au/Featur...than-macs.aspx

'nuff said

Win

[Muad'dib]

Give me an argument for how they aren't.

Have fun with your over priced, none gaming system with limited program capability. In the other hand you can have almost anything in your Windows or Linux.

[MegaHold]

need poll.

[steve_nash]

Most mac products are impossible to upgrade there hardware. They are way overpriced. good luck getting pc games working on them. They DO freeze up.

oh and did I mention theyre overpriced?

if you play computer games at the age of 24 then you are a loser.

[RetardedNinja]

if you play computer games at the age of 24 then you are a loser.

I dont ,and 24 isnt even old to play video games. Come back to me when your my age and tell me the same thing. Im sure you'll be doing the stupid sh!t that you're doing now.

[Acere]

They're more expensive, even with the price reduction and all the new incentives.
Some of the macbooks have integrated graphics which suck.
If you get a virus, you basically have to reformat.

1. I want a chicken sandwich
2. I want a cheeseburger.
3. Mac's don't get viruses because they are designed to work on Windows 99.9% of the time
4. Barely any Mac's have integrated graphics, in fact my old Dell laptop had them, not any of the Mac's I was looking at before I got mine last year.

To those talking about custom software only working on Windows and games being slower. One word my friends. Bootcamp.

Oh, and I only paid about $100 more for mine compared to a Dell with the same specs (like hell I'm gonna bother building a laptop, no time for that **** and most people with Windows don't do that either). Considering how much faster it is than Windows, I'm perfectly fine with the small increase in price.

Btw that link posted earlier sucks ass. Most of the reasons can't even be legitimate reasons, and they obviously have not heard of Bootcamp either. Fail.

Next?

[.Locus]

if you play computer games at the age of 24 then you are a loser.

Are you serious? Computer games are the ****!
They're fun as hell, and with modern technology and modern games, our generation is definitely going to be playing games for a long time.

[steve_nash]

I dont ,and 24 isnt even old to play video games. Come back to me when your my age and tell me the same thing. Im sure you'll be doing the stupid sh!t that you're doing now.

oh i know i'll be doing stupid stuff. computer games are a lot nerdier than other video games

[.Locus]

1. I want a chicken sandwich
2. I want a cheeseburger.
3. Mac's don't get viruses because they are designed to work on windows 99.9% of the time
4. Barely any Mac's have integrated viruses, in fact my old Dell laptop had them, not any of the Mac's I was looking at before I got mine last year.

Btw to those talking about custom software only working on Windows and games being slower. One word my friends. Bootcamp.

Oh, and I only paid about $100 more for mine compared to a Dell. Considering how much faster it is than windows, I'm perfectly fine with that.

Next?

Yeah it's hard to get viruses, but on the rare occasions that you might get one. There's no cure lol. You gotta reformat.

Windows 7 owns btw, just saying.

oh i know i'll be doing stupid stuff. computer games are a lot nerdier than other video games

They're better than console games..

[fodosho]

Macs are for retards who can't use a real computer simple and plain. Yes they are good for a lot of people because most people aren't very good with computers. Also as far as custom computers come Mac lacks quite a bit.

1. Business pc's, gaming pc's, media workshops the list goes on. PC's can be made into whatever you want changing ever aspect while a Mac is just a Mac and you have limited choices. you can make modular upgrades, like fitting a new CPU and motherboard without having to replace your existing graphics card and hard drives.

2.PC has a button on their disc drive so you can eject a dvd/cd with the laptop shut. Mac has theirs on the Keyboard.

3. Windows media center has many things including television guide with the ability to record your shows and syncs up with my xbox 360 wirelessly. Does you Mac do that?

4. download.com file repository lists more than 55,000 packages of freeware and shareware for Windows, compared to just 4,586 for the Mac

Can list more if u want

[Muad'dib]

[kaoslegend]

http://www.pcauthority.com.au/Featur...than-macs.aspx

'nuff said

that pretty much covers it

[steve_nash]

Are you serious? Computer games are the ****!
They're fun as hell, and with modern technology and modern games, our generation is definitely going to be playing games for a long time.

Age: 17
Weight: 118 lbs.
Status: Gay

[Acere]

that pretty much covers it

Not really. As I've said, the reasons suck, and it would be just as easy to make a list against Windows using horrible and insignificant 'problems' as reasons. Half the list isn't even correct anyway.

[.Locus]

Age: 17
Weight: 118 lbs.
Status: Gay

LoLuMaD?
mKay.

[Loctus]

Give me an argument for how they aren't.

I can right-click.

[redbullrr]

This debate fails!

Hi, I'm windows I have a degree a nice career, a mortg, a car, and I've been working for years.

Hello, I'm a mac I am unemployed, live at home with my parents, and have trouble making new friends.


LMAO! No Joke went to a windows seminar and they did this bit like this **** was funny and kind of makes sense in a way. Since you dont ever see Macs in a Network enviroment.