Help with my first cycle

ds41 · 07-14-2009, 08:15 PM

I'm looking to start my first real cycle and need some guidance. I've done a lot of searching and reading on the forums, but a little direct help and clarification would be awesome.

I've been lifting seriously (3-5 days a week) for about two years now. I'm very consistent with my workouts and I do a good job of keeping my diet in check with my goals. I'm moderately knowledgeable when it comes to the standard supplements (pre work out supps, creatine, protein, intra workout supps, etc.). The most "extreme" supplement I've taken is Novedex XT. I felt it did what I expected. I had some moderate gains and increased strength while taking it. It wasn't anything overly impressive (but nicely effective).

So having said that, what would you suggest for someone in my position who wants to do their first cycle? Mass Tabs? Trenadrol? Epidrol?

And what would you suggest for PCT for these? I'm a bit confused as to what to take for PCT.

So basically, I'm looking for start to finish cycle suggestions.

I don't want anything that is extremely powerful. I want something that is easily accessible and preferably under $80-100. And I would prefer a 4 week cycle to begin with. I want to start off properly and continue to escalate up as I progress and become more educated about these particular types of supplements.

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

MikeDre · 07-14-2009, 08:36 PM

H-Drol or an epi product for your first cycle. I typically suggest a SERM for PCT with the addition of something like P.C.T. Assist

ds41 · 07-14-2009, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeDre

H-Drol or an epi product for your first cycle. I typically suggest a SERM for PCT with the addition of something like P.C.T. Assist

What would be a good SERM?

Some something like H-Drol, a SERM, and P.C.T. Assist (or a similar product)?

Sorry for all the amateur questions. Too many conflicting facts/opinions in the mountain of threads I've searched.

MikeDre · 07-14-2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ds41

What would be a good SERM?

Some something like H-Drol, a SERM, and P.C.T. Assist (or a similar product)?

Sorry for all the amateur questions. Too many conflicting facts/opinions in the mountain of threads I've searched.

No problem, thats what this forum is here for.

Anyways, tamoxifen is the most popular SERM and its proven itself time and time again. Then many people throw in P.C.T. Assist or similar to help with libido (Post Cycle Support or Anabolic EDGE are good also). Creatine is also great for PCT and on cycle if you want.

ds41 · 07-14-2009, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeDre

No problem, thats what this forum is here for.

Anyways, tamoxifen is the most popular SERM and its proven itself time and time again. Then many people throw in P.C.T. Assist or similar to help with libido (Post Cycle Support or Anabolic EDGE are good also). Creatine is also great for PCT and on cycle if you want.

Thanks for the suggestions man, I really appreciate it.

Where could I purchase tamoxifen? Or is this one of those supplements that I sorta need to dig deep around the internet to find? If so, is there a comparable, more easily accessible SERM?

ds41 · 07-15-2009, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ds41

Thanks for the suggestions man, I really appreciate it.

Where could I purchase tamoxifen? Or is this one of those supplements that I sorta need to dig deep around the internet to find? If so, is there a comparable, more easily accessible SERM?

Bump. Open for more advice/opinions.