My husband (36) just had a Heart Attack!

wyntersmom · 07-09-2009, 06:37 PM

My husband WAS taking M-drol & Epistane stack. He was on for 2 weeks and off for one and he had two heart attacks on monday and tuesday. The Dr said it was from the supplements. They found something in his urine and we're waiting for results on what it is.

Has anyone heard of problems with these? We have friends on these and they have no problems, just wondering if anyone else has heard of problems?
Thanks

chasinSKURT · 07-09-2009, 06:40 PM

Not sure if this is a serious thread, or an attempt at a joke...

but none the less, both 'supplements' are steroids. However, I would doubt an underlying issue wasn't present before he used said products.

_NimbusTim_ · 07-09-2009, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by wyntersmom

My husband WAS taking M-drol & Epistane stack. He was on for 2 weeks and off for one and he had two heart attacks on monday and tuesday. The Dr said it was from the supplements. They found something in his urine and we're waiting for results on what it is.

Has anyone heard of problems with these? We have friends on these and they have no problems, just wondering if anyone else has heard of problems?
Thanks

Honestly, that is a very potent stack of "steroids". More than likely he was either abusing these products, or had an underlying issue that caused his heart attack.

Either way, I am sorry to hear about your husband, and wish him a full recovery.

neuron · 07-09-2009, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by _NimbusTim_

More than likely he was either abusing these products, or had an underlying issue that caused his heart attack.

Not necessarily.

Elwood83 · 07-09-2009, 06:44 PM

Stacking 2 methylated compounds couldn't have helped. Methylated steroids are known to increase blood pressure

_NimbusTim_ · 07-09-2009, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by neuron

Not necessarily.

True as well.....I am sure (?) this combo has horrible effects on blood pressure and lipid values.

I will be the first to admit, I am no expert on steroids.

TMac26 · 07-09-2009, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Elwood83

Stacking 2 methylated compounds couldn't have helped. Methylated steroids are known to increase blood pressure

Esp. at the age of 36...plus we dont know the other factors of it...ie...was he a smoker? was he a drinker? did he have high cholesterol? all these plus the very potent stack of steroids could have contributed to his heart attack

_NimbusTim_ · 07-09-2009, 06:49 PM

Opening poster...do you know his dosing, what support supplements he was taking, how long he has been using, etc?

wyntersmom · 07-09-2009, 06:56 PM

Shame on anyone who would JOKE about this. I am very serious. He had no underlying problems that we know of. He had a hernia surgery early this year and they found no abnormalities in his blood work then. He wasn't abusing, he followed the instructions on the bottles. He wasn't taking any other supplements at during those two weeks. He is not a smoker or drinker, no cholesterol problems. He did have high blood pressure when he went in.

Also all his other tests came back good, he has no blockages and no damage. The Dr said if he stays off the products he'll be fine.

I just wanted to find out if anyone else has heard of problems from these.

TMac26 · 07-09-2009, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by wyntersmom

Shame on anyone who would JOKE about this. I am very serious. He had no underlying problems that we know of. He had a hernia surgery early this year and they found no abnormalities in his blood work then. He wasn't abusing, he followed the instructions on the bottles. He wasn't taking any other supplements at during those two weeks. He is not a smoker or drinker, no cholesterol problems. He did have high blood pressure when he went in.

Also all his other tests came back good, he has no blockages and no damage. The Dr said if he stays off the products he'll be fine.

I just wanted to find out if anyone else has heard of problems from these.

Um im pretty sure NO ONE WAS JOKING....this is a forum people are going to post there opinons if you dont want to hear the opinion dont post. Has your husband ever used PH's before? Cause that is very hardcore stack for someone that has never used PH's before....

wyntersmom · 07-09-2009, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by _NimbusTim_

Opening poster...do you know his dosing, what support supplements he was taking, how long he has been using, etc?

He started 3 weeks ago. He took them for 2 weeks and then we went on vacation for a week and he left them at home. We came back and that night he had the first one.

He was taking 2 capsules of M-drol and one of Epistane each day. Thats the instructions. He would take NO Explode before his workout. Thats it.

We still have most of the bottle so he wasn't taking more than that.

_NimbusTim_ · 07-09-2009, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TMac26

Um im pretty sure NO ONE WAS JOKING....this is a forum people are going to post there opinons if you dont want to hear the opinion dont post. Has your husband ever used PH's before? Cause that is very hardcore stack for someone that has never used PH's before....

I think she meant....her post was not a joke, as someone mentioned the possibility of it.

th3_original · 07-09-2009, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by wyntersmom

Shame on anyone who would JOKE about this. I am very serious. He had no underlying problems that we know of. He had a hernia surgery early this year and they found no abnormalities in his blood work then. He wasn't abusing, he followed the instructions on the bottles. He wasn't taking any other supplements at during those two weeks. He is not a smoker or drinker, no cholesterol problems. He did have high blood pressure when he went in.

Also all his other tests came back good, he has no blockages and no damage. The Dr said if he stays off the products he'll be fine.

I just wanted to find out if anyone else has heard of problems from these.

So no other supplements meaning no support supps?

MrPHF · 07-09-2009, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by wyntersmom

Shame on anyone who would JOKE about this. I am very serious. He had no underlying problems that we know of. He had a hernia surgery early this year and they found no abnormalities in his blood work then. He wasn't abusing, he followed the instructions on the bottles. He wasn't taking any other supplements at during those two weeks. He is not a smoker or drinker, no cholesterol problems. He did have high blood pressure when he went in.

Also all his other tests came back good, he has no blockages and no damage. The Dr said if he stays off the products he'll be fine.

I just wanted to find out if anyone else has heard of problems from these.

you were being asked because people have played sicker jokes than this on BB.com. I wish your husband a full recovery.

chasinSKURT · 07-09-2009, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by wyntersmom

Shame on anyone who would JOKE about this. I am very serious. He had no underlying problems that we know of. He had a hernia surgery early this year and they found no abnormalities in his blood work then. He wasn't abusing, he followed the instructions on the bottles. He wasn't taking any other supplements at during those two weeks. He is not a smoker or drinker, no cholesterol problems. He did have high blood pressure when he went in.

Also all his other tests came back good, he has no blockages and no damage. The Dr said if he stays off the products he'll be fine.

I just wanted to find out if anyone else has heard of problems from these.

Yikes, that's very unfortunate. BUT, like we have said, these 'supplements' are full blown steroids. Not like steroids, or similar to steroids, but steroids. The high blood pressure is without a doubt the result of the two products, and could even be a culprit.

Using both products at the same time is/was a poor idea. Many people do so anyways, and come out unscathed, but there are absolute dangers in doing so. Hell, using only 1 of those products entails risk.

wyntersmom · 07-09-2009, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TMac26

Um im pretty sure NO ONE WAS JOKING....this is a forum people are going to post there opinons if you dont want to hear the opinion dont post. Has your husband ever used PH's before? Cause that is very hardcore stack for someone that has never used PH's before....

Read the first guys reponse to me attempting a joke

I wouldn't joke about this.

Anyway he used Test & Deca a couple years ago for a couple months. Thats all I know of.

deserusan · 07-09-2009, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by th3_original

So no other supplements meaning no support supps?

Despite popular opinion many of the recommended support supplement do not do much to modulate blood pressure. Some great ones exist, I've just never seen them discussed.

TMac26 · 07-09-2009, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by wyntersmom

Read the first guys reponse to me attempting a joke

I wouldn't joke about this.

Anyway he used Test & Deca a couple years ago for a couple months. Thats all I know of.

Ah i am very sorry Ma'am...i did not see that post...you have my full apologizes....when using these Steroids we recommend a lot of other things to use while using them (cycle support, Sam-E...among other things) Its very unfortunate that happened to your husband and i wish him a very speedy recovery

Elwood83 · 07-09-2009, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by wyntersmom

He wasn't taking any other supplements at during those two weeks.

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Originally Posted by wyntersmom

He would take NO Explode before his workout. Thats it.

He stacked 2 methlyated steroids on top of a pre-workout supplement loaded with caffeine while taking nothing to control blood pressure. That's why he had a heart attack.....he didn't do enough research

EDIT: Ok, I realize this was a harsh statement.

chasinSKURT · 07-09-2009, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by wyntersmom

He started 3 weeks ago. He took them for 2 weeks and then we went on vacation for a week and he left them at home. We came back and that night he had the first one.

He was taking 2 capsules of M-drol and one of Epistane each day. Thats the instructions. He would take NO Explode before his workout. Thats it.

We still have most of the bottle so he wasn't taking more than that.

Using two steroids that will undoubtedly raise BP, and then adding in caffeine (in NOXplode) has serious POTENTIAL to cause damage. However, nobody online can pinpoint what happened.

Hat_Monster · 07-09-2009, 07:08 PM

OP, sorry to hear about your husband, do you know of his experiences with hormonal products?
As the other posters have already noted, Superdrol is a very toxic compound. I'm sure he'll be fine as the doctors have said, however, it'll be interesting to know exactly what was the cause.

MBSowards · 07-09-2009, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by wyntersmom

He started 3 weeks ago. He took them for 2 weeks and then we went on vacation for a week and he left them at home. We came back and that night he had the first one.

He was taking 2 capsules of M-drol and one of Epistane each day. Thats the instructions. He would take NO Explode before his workout. Thats it.

We still have most of the bottle so he wasn't taking more than that.

I realize that not everyone is educated on these products and this probably happens in real life a lot, but a few things:

1) I wish him the best and hope he is able to have a great recovery from the heart attacks;
2) Assuming he does recover, I urge you to emphasize the importance of the things that he chooses to put in his body. Not a good use of the products at all.

Again, I am not hating/flaming/etc. but to take them for 2 weeks and then just stop taking them during a week of vacation is ill-advised.

_NimbusTim_ · 07-09-2009, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by wyntersmom

He started 3 weeks ago. He took them for 2 weeks and then we went on vacation for a week and he left them at home. We came back and that night he had the first one.

He was taking 2 capsules of M-drol and one of Epistane each day. Thats the instructions. He would take NO Explode before his workout. Thats it.

We still have most of the bottle so he wasn't taking more than that.

20mg of Superdrol is a pretty decent amount, but 10mg of Epistane is low.
Either way it is a potent stack.

This, coupled with NO support supplements, and NO Explode pre workout probably had his blood pressure sky high. He obviously had not taken the NO Explode the night of the heart attack, but I am sure his blood pressure was still high from the cycle.....and his lipid values were probably out of wack.

Did they do blood work to check his cholesterol, liver, etc?

chasinSKURT · 07-09-2009, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by deserusan

Despite popular opinion many of the recommended support supplement do not do much to modulate blood pressure. Some great ones exist, I've just never seen them discussed.

I ran 2 Havoc (same active as epistane) cycles in 2008, and monitored my BP religiously throughout both of them. The support supps didn't change a thing. Then again, I only suffered an extremely mild increase in BP... perhaps they may help out during extremes?

I dunno. Either way, I agree that these so called support supps are very over rated.

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Originally Posted by Elwood83

He stacked 2 methlyated steroids on top of a pre-workout supplement loaded with caffeine while taking nothing to control blood pressure. That's why he had a heart attack.....he didn't do enough research

You can't say that with any degree of certainty. Very arrogant comment.

Elwood83 · 07-09-2009, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by chasinSKURT

You can't say that even with a minimal degree of certainty. Very arrogant comment.

You're right, probably too harsh on my part but it couldn't have helped any

MrPHF · 07-09-2009, 07:14 PM

whoever put OP in the red is trash.

chasinSKURT · 07-09-2009, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Elwood83

You're right, probably too harsh on my part but it couldn't have helped any

Definitely couldn't of helped, but the likeliness of the use of said products being the culprit is completely unknown.

My suggestion to the original poster would be to give the most comprehensive, accurate info you have to the doctors. Believe it or not, this data could actually be very useful.

chasinSKURT · 07-09-2009, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPHF

whoever put OP in the red is trash.

Fixed

Rawp0wer1O1 · 07-09-2009, 07:17 PM

I HIGHLY doubt his heart attacks were from mdrol + epi + NO

Maybe if he was on for 2 YEARS...but i doubt 2 weeks would lead to a heart attack

deserusan · 07-09-2009, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by chasinSKURT

I ran 2 Havoc (same active as epistane) cycles in 2008, and monitored my BP religiously throughout both of them. The support supps didn't change a thing. Then again, I only suffered an extremely mild increase in BP... perhaps they may help out during extremes?

I dunno. Either way, I agree that these so called support supps are very over rated

Many of them are very overrated. In fact I'd say most are and give a false sense of security. A great marketing tactic is to scare the **** out of people.