how important are squats to weight lifting?

[tuffguyx93]

Well i was wondering if the squat is really important after doing other excersies like deadlifts, calf raises, leg press, etc.

[iewed]

stfu and squat

[Tyler3]

yeah it is one of the main and most important ones of all 3 calf raises and leg press arent as important as squats

[akaminki]

if you don't squat then the terrorists win

[Jaxxed_Fibraz_]

Really doesn't matter, you'll still gain if you don't squat, squats are probabaly the best leg excersise you can do, it just means your legs will grow slightly slightly slower.

I wont effect your upper body atall.

[tuffguyx93]

stfu and squat

ill think about it

if you don't squat then the terrorists win

haha i really laughed at this when i red it. Well anyways is there away to know how much you squat from any other excersies you do:
dealifts-155
calf raises-135
leg press (the one where your lying falt on the floor and you push up)-200

[Campbell23]

"How important are squats to weight lifting?"

- "How important is your stomach to eating?"

Just quit b*tching, and squat. They're great for you.
Don't be a pussy.

[anonymous]

Squats are as important as bench or deadlift.

[cj11]

Squats aren't just for legs, they work everything, your whole body goes into work stabilizing you as you squat. Also squatting will help your whole body grow, just do them, some people dont work legs at all,you don't want to be one of those idiots with no legs and a big upper body.

[X-Kurt-X]

the legs are the biggest muscle, they are just as important as any muscle

don't train ur legs you'll be called a chicken leg

[tuffguyx93]

the legs are the biggest muscle, they are just as important as any muscle

don't train ur legs you'll be called a chicken leg

well i dont want to be called chicken leg

[Uberwaffle]

well i dont want to be called chicken leg

simple solution? train legs, which almost automatically entails squatting.

[pearco96]

squats are vital!!!
The only way to get full body development is to train legs.
and squats are the ultimate leg exercise.

[adc123]

Squats are definately good if you can do them but not a necessity at all! I can't squat anymore due to my groin so I just do heavy as hell leg extensions (yes you can gain muscle off these) and leg presses although these do aggrevate my groin abit I take a close stance with my feet together.

I get decent development with these 2 exercises.

[dakaus]

how important are your eyes for seeing?

[CJ_Guns]

You don't wanna end up with jimmylegs do you? Legs are an important thing to be missing out on, adds some nice poundage to your scale.

Also I had no ass before I started training, squats have been growing me a fresh one (no homo)

[Galindo62]

Squats are to weight lifting , as glasses are to eyes.

[GMobius]

A lot of people don't need glasses. Your analogy sux

[Jaxxed_Fibraz_]

Squats aren't just for legs, they work everything, your whole body goes into work stabilizing you as you squat. Also squatting will help your whole body grow, just do them, some people dont work legs at all,you don't want to be one of those idiots with no legs and a big upper body.

Squats dont effect upper body atall, they give you a strong core, they wont efect upper body growth though.

well i dont want to be called chicken leg

You can train legs without doing squats.

simple solution? train legs, which almost automatically entails squatting.

No it doesn't, you ever heard of leg press? lunges? leg extension?

Squats are definately good if you can do them but not a necessity at all! I can't squat anymore due to my groin so I just do heavy as hell leg extensions (yes you can gain muscle off these) and leg presses although these do aggrevate my groin abit I take a close stance with my feet together.

I get decent development with these 2 exercises.

Great post.

You don't wanna end up with jimmylegs do you? Legs are an important thing to be missing out on, adds some nice poundage to your scale.

Also I had no ass before I started training, squats have been growing me a fresh one (no homo)

You can train legs without squatting.....

[Chubz91]

A lot of people don't need glasses. Your analogy sux

I'm assuming that was his point, they aren't vital, but they help.

Of course Squats aren't necassary, but there's a reason they're one of the main three lifts anyone who lifts should include in their routine.

[NorwegianGuy92]

Squats dont effect upper body atall, they give you a strong core, they wont efect upper body growth though.

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They do, squats release Testosterone, which also increases muscle growth in your entire body. There has been done some studies about this, and yes, they do help your entire body grow.
http://www.fitflex.com/naturaltestosterone.html

[Chubz91]

They do, squats release Testosterone, which also increases muscle growth in your entire body. There has been done several studies about this, and yes, they do help your upper body growth, but it's nothing extreme.

links to studies there genius? Or are you just saying what someone else told you...who was told by someone else...who's brother's uncle is a pro?

edit: in after edit FUUUUUU
that article is full of broscience

You'll achieve the greatest testosterone release when you're using weights that are 150 to 200 percent of your bodyweight

[Jaxxed_Fibraz_]

They do, squats release Testosterone, which also increases muscle growth in your entire body. There has been done some studies about this, and yes, they do help your entire body grow.
http://www.fitflex.com/naturaltestosterone.html

NO THEY DO NOT.


Jesus christ some people are retarded. Listen here, ANY heavy lifting increases test slightly, but it's so minimul that it doesn't effect you....atall. So it might aswell be disregarded.

And please link me to said studies genius because I can tell you now they don't exist.

[Chubz91]

^^this.
you got in after edit too lol

[Jaxxed_Fibraz_]

Neuromuscular Laboratory, Department of Health Leisure and Exercise Science, Appalachian State University, Boone, NC, 28607, USA.

The purpose of the current study was to determine the acute neuroendocrine response to hypertrophy (H), strength (S), and power (P) type resistance exercise (RE) equated for total volume. Ten male subjects completed three RE protocols and a rest day (R) using a randomized cross-over design. The protocols included (1) H: 4 sets of 10 repetitions in the squat at 75% of 1RM (90 s rest periods); (2) S: 11 sets of three repetitions at 90% of 1RM (5 min rest periods); and (3) P: 8 sets of 6 repetitions of jump squats at 0% of 1RM (3 min rest periods). Total testosterone (T), cortisol (C), and sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG) were determined prior to (PRE), immediately post (IP), 60 min post, 24 h post, and 48 h post exercise bout. Peak force, rate of force development, and muscle activity from the vastus medialis (VM) and biceps femoris (BF) were determined during a maximal isometric squat test. A unique pattern of response was observed in T, C, and SHBG for each RE protocol. The percent change in T, C, and SHBG from PRE to IP was significantly (p </= 0.05) greater in comparison to the R condition only after the H protocol. The percent of baseline muscle activity of the VM at IP was significantly greater following the H compared to the S protocol. These data indicate that significant acute increases in hormone concentrations are limited to H type protocols independent of the volume of work competed. In addition, it appears the H protocol also elicits a unique pattern of muscle activity as well. RE protocols of varying intensity and rest periods elicit strikingly different acute neuroendocrine responses which indicate a unique physiological stimulus.


Cliffs: Increase is f*cking tiny and won't make ANY difference.


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[JBBB]

They do, squats release Testosterone, which also increases muscle growth in your entire body. There has been done some studies about this, and yes, they do help your entire body grow.
http://www.fitflex.com/naturaltestosterone.html

I have heard this aswell, my friend went on a personal trainer course, the instructor said this was true.
It may not be though.

[NorwegianGuy92]

Exercise Physiology Division, U.S. Army Research Institute of Environmental Medicine, Natick, MA 01760-5007.

To examine endogenous anabolic hormonal responses to two different types of heavy resistance exercise protocols (HREPs), eight male and eight female subjects performed two randomly assigned protocols (i.e. P-1 and P-2) on separate days. Each protocol consisted of eight identically ordered exercises carefully designed to control for load, rest period length, and total work (J) effects. P-1 utilized a 5 RM load, 3-min rest periods and had lower total work than P-2. P-2 utilized a 10 RM load, 1-min rest periods and had a higher total work than P-1. Whole blood lactate and serum glucose, human growth hormone (hGH), testosterone (T), and ****tomedin-C [SM-C] (i.e. insulin-like growth factor 1, IGF-1) were determined pre-exercise, mid-exercise (i.e. after 4 of the 8 exercises), and at 0, 5, 15, 30, and 60 min post-exercise. Males demonstrated significant (p less than 0.05) increases above rest in serum T values, and all serum concentrations were greater than corresponding female values. Growth hormone increases in both males and females following the P-2 HREP were significantly greater at all time points than corresponding P-1 values. Females exhibited significantly higher pre-exercise hGH levels compared to males. The P-1 exercise protocol did not result in any hGH increases in females. SM-C demonstrated random significant increases above rest in both males and females in response to both HREPs.(ABSTRACT TRUNCATED AT 250 WORDS)
PMID: 1860749 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]



http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...ubmed_RVDocSum

And this one:

http://www.bodybuildingweb.net/blog/...rowth-hormone/

I think it makes sense. And yes, there is a small increase, but it does affect it. I simply said you were wrong, when you said that they don't affect your upper body growth AT ALL.

[Jaxxed_Fibraz_]

I think it makes sense. And yes, there is a small increase, but it does affect it. I simply said you were wrong, when you said that they don't affect your upper body growth AT ALL.

No I was not wrong, it will NOT effect your upper body growth ATALL, stop being so retarded. In your study it didn't even state the end results, it only said "significant" if you knew ANYTHING about using peptides or hormones you would understand how long + how much you actaully have to use before you even begin to see results. If you think squatting which is probabaly relative to about 1/50th of the minimum dose required over x amount of time to see results from certain hormones will have ANY effect on your upper growth then you're retarded.

You can squat for arms if you want, I'll curl.

[NorwegianGuy92]

Of course you have to train arms as well, but the testosterone release will help your arms grow. You don't believe it, fine. I do, that's my opinion after reading studies and what coaches, athletes and PT's say. Your entitled to say that I'm a retard, I could not care less.

[Jaxxed_Fibraz_]

Of course you have to train arms as well, but the testosterone release will help your arms grow. You don't believe it, fine. I do, that's my opinion after reading studies and what coaches, athletes and PT's say. Your entitled to say that I'm a retard, I could not care less.

No it doesn't help your arm growth goddamit, I'm not gonna argue because to justify my point I would have to use examples of gear/peptide doses + durations which would result in infraction/ban.

Have a nice day.