| Dodge Viper ACR beats Corvette ZR1 around The Ring |

[6-SPEED]

Dodge Viper = Pure performance, No compromises



The ZR1 has just suffered it's first defeat (hopefully the last) to the Viper ACR. It's actually quite funny because the guys at the Viper forums never thought for a second the ZR1 would be any faster than the regular '08 SRT-10...they never gave it a chance against the ACR.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08nxInpgTGc


The ACR ran a 7:22!! The ZR1 clocked in at 7:26 They're oh so quiet over at the corvette forum...I can't wait for the excuses! I guess it's better the ZR1 got it's ass kicked by another domestic instead of an import.







The GT-R V-Spec better be one hell of a car to touch those times.

[rich86]

Im not biased but over that length of course there surely must be quite a bit of time influenced by the driver... Even if they're all pro's there's the very real chance the times for same cars could be +/- 10 secs or more for the ring. IMO.

[6-SPEED]

I should probably also mention that the driver for the ACR had never before driven the Viper ACR! He only had time for 4 laps and made mistakes on all of them! The ACR can go faster than 7:22.

[SpencerSpencer]

The Viper driver seemed more skilled imho especially around corners where he would downshift and then grip and turn and hit the apex the vette driver seemed to try and almost hit and smash it. Great race speeds though intense intense course. Glad they make vipers that can turn now :-P

[SpencerSpencer]

I should probably also mention that the driver for the ACR had never before driven the Viper ACR! He only had time for 4 laps and made mistakes on all of them! The ACR can go faster than 7:22.

Damn he seemed to handle it so much better than the vette!

[6-SPEED]

The Viper driver seemed more skilled imho especially around corners where he would downshift and then grip and turn and hit the apex the vette driver seemed to try and almost hit and smash it. Great race speeds though intense intense course. Glad they make vipers that can turn now :-P

They're both great drivers. The ZR1 driver was Jim Mero...he's an awesome driver. I've watched the lap video multiple times and he was driving the wheels off the ZR1. The ZR1 simply isn't fast enough to run with a Viper around a track. The ZR1 should have a much faster top speed however because the Viper ACR produces a lot of downforce (1500 lbs @ 150mph) to help highspeed handling. The regular Viper should have a top speed comparable to the ZR1 and for less money.

[John Rambo]

6:55




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[pheny]

And they're both ridiculously fast and beautiful cars!

[minimidgy]

I have loved the Viper ever since I played it in Gran Turismo

[mrawdtsi]

Id rock the Viper before a Vette any day... and I like Vettes.

[db79]

2 mis-shifts

[mmj12345]

I have loved the Viper ever since I played it in Gran Turismo

Haha same here. I remember getting Grand Turismo 3 for PS2 and playing that game non-stop till I got my Viper to 1100+ hp.

[HarryBalzac]

whats the red strip mean?

[mmj12345]

whats the red strip mean?

Adds 50hp and 40 ft-lbs of torque.

[6-SPEED]

Nissan and GM spent DAYS ::correction: WEEKS:: at The Ring tuning their cars before they got their fastest run. The Viper got a 1/2 day (few hours) and NO factory support.

[callum-2006]

The GT-R V-Spec better be one hell of a car to touch those times.

I can't wait to see what NISMO can do witha GT-R V-Spec when it comes out.

[Mises]

You're comparing, literally a factory race car (ACR) to a factor street car (ZR1) Then put the tires the Viper ACR uses on the ZR1 and let's have a real race.

Viper ACR has Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tires... barely street legal race tires.
Corvette ZR1 has Michelin Pilot Sport SP2 tires... street tires.

B U T the times are for "factory production models". Race car or not, it's a factory production car. If they took the ZR1, stripped it, added barely legal tires, and made a race version of that, it would kick the ACR's butt. But for now, the ACR is the fastest production car around the Ring.

Hmmmmm, maybe it's time for a ZR1-R or Z06-R ala C6-R

[bobmuscle]

the red stripe looks so stupid

[Mises]

Nissan and GM spent DAYS at The Ring tuning their cars before they got their fastest run. The Viper got a 1/2 day (few hours) and NO factory support.

That's because Nissan and GM want to make their cars as Daily Drivers

[5x10]

the viper doesnt offer the comforts the vette does
plus, plan on burning your hamstring every time you step out of the car
the exhaust is right under the door

got to give it props though, its fast and american!

[Grizvok]

I'd definitely grab the Corvette just for the price, which I'm assuming is much less than the Viper.

[Kharig]

I love the viper, i see a lot of vettes so i dont wanna be 'another one of em'

[6-SPEED]

You're comparing, literally a factory race car (ACR) to a factor street car (ZR1) Then put the tires the Viper ACR uses on the ZR1 and let's have a real race.

Viper ACR has Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tires... barely street legal race tires.
Corvette ZR1 has Michelin Pilot Sport SP2 tires... street tires.

B U T the times are for "factory production models". Race car or not, it's a factory production car. If they took the ZR1, stripped it, added barely legal tires, and made a race version of that, it would kick the ACR's butt. But for now, the ACR is the fastest production car around the Ring.

Hmmmmm, maybe it's time for a ZR1-R or Z06-R ala C6-R

WTF are "barely street legal race tires"? Either the tires are street legal or not! The PS2s are completely 100% street legal. GM could have put PS2s on the ZR1...THEY DIDN'T...that's their problem.

The whole "ZR1 could've done better if it would've had this, that, and those things" argument is asinine! It was GM's task to take the Z06 and make an even faster more badass version...what they came up with was the ZR1. Now you're talking about they have to go back and strip it down and try to make an even faster "race-version" ZR1? WTF?

Keep in mind the Porsche Turbo GT2 also comes with the same PS2s the ACR uses and the ACR still smoked it by over 3 seconds at Buttonwillow Raceway.

[niospecv]

You're comparing, literally a factory race car (ACR) to a factor street car (ZR1) Then put the tires the Viper ACR uses on the ZR1 and let's have a real race.

Viper ACR has Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tires... barely street legal race tires.
Corvette ZR1 has Michelin Pilot Sport SP2 tires... street tires.

B U T the times are for "factory production models". Race car or not, it's a factory production car. If they took the ZR1, stripped it, added barely legal tires, and made a race version of that, it would kick the ACR's butt. But for now, the ACR is the fastest production car around the Ring.

Hmmmmm, maybe it's time for a ZR1-R or Z06-R ala C6-R

Exactly what I thought. Good point brah.

[RickStaaa]

I love the viper, i see a lot of vettes so i dont wanna be 'another one of em'

this is true seems like owning a corvette is nothing special these days

[Neopragmatist]

Most fun car you'll ever drive. The Lotus Elise.

[6-SPEED]

I'd definitely grab the Corvette just for the price, which I'm assuming is much less than the Viper.

Actually the ZR1 will cost buyers much more than the Viper ACR. They both have a MSRP around $100K. But because of the hype that is surrounding the ZR1 there is a big dealership markup on them. But a lot of wind has just been knocked out of the ZR1's sail because it just got its ass beat. Chevy was touting it was the badass/fastest production car and Dodge easily beat it without even adding any hp to the Viper ACR. Dodge knew they wouldn't need to add any more power to beat anything offered from Chevy and they would have had to certify another drivetrain if they did.

[dickhordishay]

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Sick videos. Awesome track. I would love to have the opportunity to take one of those babies on it.

In the 6:55 video, he actually lost a little time because of a car ahead of him.

[Ochosiete]

im happy and would still grab either one of those although im more biased towards the zr1, i always wanted a z06....either way though, 2 beautiful domestic cars...

[6-SPEED]

You're comparing, literally a factory race car (ACR) to a factor street car (ZR1) Then put the tires the Viper ACR uses on the ZR1 and let's have a real race.

Viper ACR has Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tires... barely street legal race tires.
Corvette ZR1 has Michelin Pilot Sport SP2 tires... street tires.

B U T the times are for "factory production models". Race car or not, it's a factory production car. If they took the ZR1, stripped it, added barely legal tires, and made a race version of that, it would kick the ACR's butt. But for now, the ACR is the fastest production car around the Ring.

Hmmmmm, maybe it's time for a ZR1-R or Z06-R ala C6-R

Oh and another thing...The Viper ACR is NOT a race car! Have you ever driven a race car? The ACR and a real race car are WORLDS apart. It's crazy to even try and compare them! The Viper ACR has comfy seats, cold A/C, electric windows, working doors, no roll cage, street legal tires, runs on regular fuel that can be bought at a gas station, and a suspension that is fine whacking a pot hole. It's even quiet if you stay off the throttle. To be honest, it's not really that different from the regular Viper. Is it as comfortable as a ZR1 on the street? Probably not, 'but it ain't no race car'. Far from it.... Many ACR owners have already made 1000+ mile trips.

It is not, and never was, Dodge's intent to sell more than 1-2 thousand Vipers a year. Matter of fact, they are built by hand. I'm not sure of the max capacity, but I doubt it's much more than they sell in a good year (1,500 of so).

BTW - Dodge does make a 'race only' Viper the public can buy. It's called the Competition Coupe.