Protein before workout?

[basscatjoe]

Should I be taking Protein Powder (ON Pro Complex) before workout or I'm I just wasting it

Joe

[Black_Label]

Are you eating before hand close enough to exercise time to have it in your system still? If so you could probably hold off on the protein powder

[sliq3g]

Should I be taking Protein Powder (ON Pro Complex) before workout or I?m I just wasting it

Joe

yes, you should, one scoop, then two immediately afterward, protein is basically always good lol

[pasmoof]

Should I be taking Protein Powder (ON Pro Complex) before workout or I?m I just wasting it

Joe

I like there oats and whey for pre workout but any protein is ideal just make sure you add some carbs to like a bagel.

[tonkaboyz]

I was usually taking a NO before workout, now I just take a protein shake about 30 min. before.. probably stick with it for a while. Go ahead and do it.

[iliveinjersey]

ideal is to take 1 scoop whey 30-45 mins before you lift with either apple,orange,oats,brown rice.. then 2 would be good after with like a fast acting carb example gatorade or dextrose.

[TMac26]

I would get some 100% whey for pre-workout. Pro Complex is great protein but its a blend. The casein might sit in your stomach while you are working out. They whey will absorb alot quicker. But post i would def. do a full serving on Pro Complex with like a half cup to 3/4 cup of ground up oatmeal.

[dirtdogg]

protein powder is fine pre-workout, Pro-complex is fine as well. Its half life is better than plain whey due to the blend. I know several people that use it workout. Just make sure you have some carbs with the shake. If you can eat , that is ideal. A whole food meal trumps a shake though for a pre workout meal.

[iliveinjersey]

I would get some 100% whey for pre-workout. Pro Complex is great protein but its a blend. The casein might sit in your stomach while you are working out. They whey will absorb alot quicker. But post i would def. do a full serving on Pro Complex with like a half cup to 3/4 cup of ground up oatmeal.

on the carbs your wrong http://www.muscleandfitness.com/vide...id=24581226001

[iliveinjersey]

protein powder is fine pre-workout, Pro-complex is fine as well. Its half life is better than plain whey due to the blend. I know several people that use it workout. Just make sure you have some carbs with the shake. If you can eat , that is ideal. A whole food meal trumps a shake though for a pre workout meal.

There are two times of day when the whole-food protein choices listed above in #2 are not ideal: 1) within 30 minutes before workouts and 2) within 30 minutes after workouts.

Whole food protein sources would take too long to digest to offer any benefits at these important windows of muscle growth. Instead you need fast-digesting protein sources, such as whey protein powder, which will provide your body the amino acids it needs (to protect from muscle damage and provide energy during the workout and to provide the building blocks for muscle growth after the workout) as fast as possible. Drink a whey-containing protein shake with 20 grams of protein before and another 40 grams within 30 minutes after.

[TMac26]

on the carbs your wrong http://www.muscleandfitness.com/vide...id=24581226001

What do you mean...(my net is too slow for the vid)...if it means you dont need carbs then i think its horse****...i just read in another Muscle and Fitness that Vitargo is important to have postworkout....or any carb after a hard workout...i was just told today...dont believe everything you read and hear. Esp. in this business

[iliveinjersey]

What do you mean...(my net is too slow for the vid)...if it means you dont need carbs then i think its horse****...i just read in another Muscle and Fitness that Vitargo is important to have postworkout....or any carb after a hard workout...i was just told today...dont believe everything you read and hear. Esp. in this business

dude chill, it was saying that gummy bears is a better choice than oatmeal for postworkout caus eu need fast acting carbs. Obvi carbs are good after a workout, but oats are far better pre rather than post. Ive never had vitargo but i believe its fastacting carbs luckly for me i just use 2:1:1 by ON its got everything u basically need

[dvsness]

I prefer a whole food meal pre-WO. Protein sources like chicken, beef, etc.

[TMac26]

dude chill, it was saying that gummy bears is a better choice than oatmeal for postworkout caus eu need fast acting carbs. Obvi carbs are good after a workout, but oats are far better pre rather than post. Ive never had vitargo but i believe its fastacting carbs luckly for me i just use 2:1:1 by ON its got everything u basically need

Ahhh...sorry i came off as being an ***hole....the 2:1:1 by ON is def. good stuff...i see what you mean on the gummi bear thing...that is a good point with that...thanks for clearing that up man ...Reps on the recharge.

[user94984100999]

I get up at 5 am every morning and I have a protein shake of dried egg whites with a peanut butter sanwich,then before i work out around 11 am,i eat a good lunch,then a protein shake after my workout

[dirtdogg]

There are two times of day when the whole-food protein choices listed above in #2 are not ideal: 1) within 30 minutes before workouts and 2) within 30 minutes after workouts.

Whole food protein sources would take too long to digest to offer any benefits at these important windows of muscle growth. Instead you need fast-digesting protein sources, such as whey protein powder, which will provide your body the amino acids it needs (to protect from muscle damage and provide energy during the workout and to provide the building blocks for muscle growth after the workout) as fast as possible. Drink a whey-containing protein shake with 20 grams of protein before and another 40 grams within 30 minutes after.

This is not true by any means. I have gone months without taking one shake and still made gains and had tons of energy.

[iliveinjersey]

Ahhh...sorry i came off as being an ***hole....the 2:1:1 by ON is def. good stuff...i see what you mean on the gummi bear thing...that is a good point with that...thanks for clearing that up man ...Reps on the recharge.

ha thanks bro, no prob.

[dvsness]

What do you mean...(my net is too slow for the vid)...if it means you dont need carbs then i think its horse****...i just read in another Muscle and Fitness that Vitargo is important to have postworkout....or any carb after a hard workout...i was just told today...dont believe everything you read and hear. Esp. in this business

You don't need carbs PWO.

dude chill, it was saying that gummy bears is a better choice than oatmeal for postworkout caus eu need fast acting carbs. Obvi carbs are good after a workout, but oats are far better pre rather than post. Ive never had vitargo but i believe its fastacting carbs luckly for me i just use 2:1:1 by ON its got everything u basically need

You don't need 'fast' carbs PWO either.

[ygbodybuilder10]

I prefer a whole food meal pre-WO. Protein sources like chicken, beef, etc.

explain why

[ygbodybuilder10]

You don't need carbs PWO.



You don't need 'fast' carbs PWO either.

is this a fact or just ur thoughts and explain why

[dvsness]

explain why

Demanding, aren't we?

I prefer as many whole food meals as possible. I also feel that I have more sustained energy from food. I do have a shake post workout for convenience (and I like the taste) but other than that shake I only typically have one other powdered meal per day (shake, pudding, or in oats).

[dvsness]

is this a fact or just ur thoughts and explain why

Why do you think you do need carbs PWO? They do replenish glycogen, but the goal of weight training is protein synthesis, not glycogen replenishment. Granted, if you train high volume, FST-7, etc it would be unwise and bad for recovery to avoid carbs. However, with a low volume BB split training protocol, they are not necessary. There is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate, only EAAs and EFAs.

I have successfully prepped using a ketogenic type diet plan several times, that included no carbs PWO, only one carb meal a week. So have Toney Freeman and Evan Centopani.

If you want references on fast vs slow PWO carbs, read Alan Aragon's work. You are still digesting your pre-WO meal throughout your training. You are not in a catabolic state and there is no reason to chase some massive insulin spike with a bunch of sugar, unless, imo, you are an ecto and need something that will clear fast so you can be hungry again soon.

[ygbodybuilder10]

Why do you think you do need carbs PWO? They do replenish glycogen, but the goal of weight training is protein synthesis, not glycogen replenishment. Granted, if you train high volume, FST-7, etc it would be unwise and bad for recovery to avoid carbs. However, with a low volume BB split training protocol, they are not necessary. There is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate, only EAAs and EFAs.

I have successfully prepped using a ketogenic type diet plan several times, that included no carbs PWO, only one carb meal a week. So have Toney Freeman and Evan Centopani.

If you want references on fast vs slow PWO carbs, read Alan Aragon's work. You are still digesting your pre-WO meal throughout your training. You are not in a catabolic state and there is no reason to chase some massive insulin spike with a bunch of sugar, unless, imo, you are an ecto and need something that will clear fast so you can be hungry again soon.

evan doesnt diet like that any more and i think tony gave that up after the iron man

i know if i take carbs ot my diet completely i will shrink up for sure,

and i use a lot of vlume when training,

u said one carb meal a week dammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm lol

when dieting i usally have two carb meals a day and one or none on my rest days

[dvsness]

evan doesnt diet like that any more and i think tony gave that up after the iron man

i know if i take carbs ot my diet completely i will shrink up for sure,

and i use a lot of vlume when training,

u said one carb meal a week dammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm lol

when dieting i usally have two carb meals a day and one or none on my rest days

Toney left Dave and then came back. Evan is now working with Oscar, but he did get Pro status using a keto diet.

Not every nutritional plan is for every person. We are not all the same. But saying that you must have carbs PWO, and further than you must have high GI carbs PWO is blatantly false. Different strokes for different folks.

[iliveinjersey]

Toney left Dave and then came back. Evan is now working with Oscar, but he did get Pro status using a keto diet.

Not every nutritional plan is for every person. We are not all the same. But saying that you must have carbs PWO, and further than you must have high GI carbs PWO is blatantly false. Different strokes for different folks.

I think it really matters what kind of workout you do if you do heavylifting and cardio in one workout carbs might be a good choice compared to light workout. It really depends on what the person wants to do

[dvsness]

I think it really matters what kind of workout you do if you do heavylifting and cardio in one workout carbs might be a good choice compared to light workout. It really depends on what the person wants to do

Volume makes a difference as I indicated above. But every competitive bodybuilder I know of who has used a carb-free protocol has done so lifting heavy and doing cardio. WTF is a 'light workout'?

[iliveinjersey]

Volume makes a difference as I indicated above. But every competitive bodybuilder I know of who has used a carb-free protocol has done so lifting heavy and doing cardio. WTF is a 'light workout'?

a half assd one...

[user94984100999]

a half assd one...

lol!!!

[Campbell23]

IMO, put one down about 30-45 minutes before you workout. This will give your body time to digest the protein and it won't expend energy digesting while you're actually lifting. You won't be wasting your protein because the pre-workout protein will help prevent catabolism (muscle breakdown) while you lift. After your workout, PERSONALLY, I eat first, THEN drink a shake. You can put the liquid on top of the solid. I'd for sure drink one pre-workout if you can afford it.

[Lbs62]

What if you're pre w/o supp says to take it on an empty stomach? What would be the best thing to do?