Test boosters and AI

[PWeezy10]

I have asked Iforce for their opinion but wanted to go further and ask you guys too. Im 18 years old. 184 pounds. Been training for over a year seriously. My lifts are bench 225 X5, dl 315X1, squat 405X2. I wanna bulk up to 200 by the end of summer. I am going to run Max out for 8 weeks and am having trouble picking a natural test booster to go with it. I wanted to know what people thought about stacking reveristol, activate extreme, or stoked with it? Opinions? Or possibly another test booster you guys have had success with. THANKS GUYS!

[blueboy22]

Doesn't Max Out already contain a test-boosting complex in it?

[PWeezy10]

are you referring to the Icarrin? I suppose but since max out is mainly an ARA supp and happens to contain those extra goodies such as the 25R Spirostan-5A-Diol-6-One-3-One,
Icarrin, and Narangin I figured I would also go with something that focused more on natural test boost and try to yeild the most results during the cycle

[neuron]

Originally Posted by PWeezy10

25R Spirostan-5A-Diol-6-One-3-One

That nomenclature makes no sense. How hard is it to get simple chemistry terms correct? It should make you wonder what else the company is lazy about.

[PWeezy10]

They classify it as "25-R-diol" in their write up

[neuron]

Originally Posted by PWeezy10

They classify it as "25-R-diol" in their write up

The problem is that it isn't a diol. It's a dione.

[haiz69]

Honestly, since you haven't used Max-out before (or so I assume), I'd just run that solo first.

I could of course tell you to use Act-X with it, but I honestly think it is smarter for you to run Max-out solo. It should be plenty all on its own.

After you finish max-out, take a break, and then try out a test-booster if you want to. No need to rush and try and stack a ton of things at once. I can say that from experience, each additional component of a stack (unless something like a free-test + AI combo stack) only adds to the overall effectiveness marginally.

[PWeezy10]

Sweet deal haiz69. I might buy the buy 2 get one free max out and order 2 bottles of activate X and then run one 8 week max out wait 8 weeks and then run the AX and go from there. Easier on the wallet and I can see how its effecting my body.

[lapolla87]

1) 25r-diol and 25r-dione are two different compounds...not the same thing, so no, hes not wrong in saying "diol"

2) i am currently on a max out/activate xtreme stack...today is exactly halfway through my cycle and to be completely honest...im a little dissapointed so far in the results.
Ive put on about 3 pounds in 25 days, but i expected a little more.
Strength is definately up, i feel good, my intensity in the gym is great and i get an awesome pump without the use of any pre-workout or NO supplements.
With that in mind, ive read all over the place that both of these products take a while (3 weeks ish) to fully take effect. Considering that today is day 26 of my cycle, im hoping the results kick in a little more this week.
Im definately feeling the DOMS from the ArA, which is a good thing.

take it for what its worth.

[neuron]

Originally Posted by lapolla87

1) 25r-diol and 25r-dione are two different compounds...not the same thing, so no, hes not wrong in saying "diol"

Wtf are you talking about?

[PWeezy10]

Originally Posted by lapolla87

1) 25r-diol and 25r-dione are two different compounds...not the same thing, so no, hes not wrong in saying "diol"

2) i am currently on a max out/activate xtreme stack...today is exactly halfway through my cycle and to be completely honest...im a little dissapointed so far in the results.
Ive put on about 3 pounds in 25 days, but i expected a little more.
Strength is definately up, i feel good, my intensity in the gym is great and i get an awesome pump without the use of any pre-workout or NO supplements.
With that in mind, ive read all over the place that both of these products take a while (3 weeks ish) to fully take effect. Considering that today is day 26 of my cycle, im hoping the results kick in a little more this week.
Im definately feeling the DOMS from the ArA, which is a good thing.

take it for what its worth.

Very interesting. Thank you for the input. Hopefully it will do more than that and it will kick in after 3 weeks. I am looking for an increase in strength but mostly size, muscle mass, and lbm.

[haiz69]

Originally Posted by lapolla87

2) i am currently on a max out/activate xtreme stack...today is exactly halfway through my cycle and to be completely honest...im a little dissapointed so far in the results.
Ive put on about 3 pounds in 25 days, but i expected a little more.
Strength is definately up, i feel good, my intensity in the gym is great and i get an awesome pump without the use of any pre-workout or NO supplements.
With that in mind, ive read all over the place that both of these products take a while (3 weeks ish) to fully take effect. Considering that today is day 26 of my cycle, im hoping the results kick in a little more this week.
Im definately feeling the DOMS from the ArA, which is a good thing.

take it for what its worth.

AA takes a bit to kick in.

As for 3 pounds in 25 days, there is nothing wrong with that. You can only gain muscle so fast unless you are on steroids/hormones. Trying to do things any quicker will only result in more fat added. 1 pound a week is plenty. Trust me (because even under the BEST circumstances, you won't be building a solid pound of muscle per week).

[lapolla87]

Originally Posted by neuron

Wtf are you talking about?

What do you mean what am i talking about? there are multiple (im not sure of the exact number) of 25r compounds...each of them is different than the other. so...someone back me up here, but no, im pretty sure i am not wrong in saying this.

if i am, i apologize for my ignorance, but im pretty sure ive seen this in a few different places.

if youre gonna knock my post for being incorrect, at least provide some evidence to support why i'm wrong.

[lapolla87]

Originally Posted by haiz69

AA takes a bit to kick in.

As for 3 pounds in 25 days, there is nothing wrong with that. You can only gain muscle so fast unless you are on steroids/hormones. Trying to do things any quicker will only result in more fat added. 1 pound a week is plenty. Trust me (because even under the BEST circumstances, you won't be building a solid pound of muscle per week).

thanks...i guess it helps to hear from someone else that things are going ok. i guess i was unrealistic in my expectaions. but truthfully, besides the weight gain, im pretty happy with the stack...considering my intensity in the gym and strength increase (not huge, but pretty decent for only 3 weeks)

[jeremyleinen]

Originally Posted by me_5

i didnt gain any weight from MO but strength consistently went up

if you consistently gained strength but not weight, then you just weren't eating enough- unless your goal was recomp, in which case all that was a good thing.

[neuron]

Originally Posted by lapolla87

What do you mean what am i talking about? there are multiple (im not sure of the exact number) of 25r compounds...each of them is different than the other. so...someone back me up here, but no, im pretty sure i am not wrong in saying this.

I think your main problem is reading comprehension. The product itself states that it is a diol AND a dione (a physical impossibility).

[lapolla87]

What is your problem? are you an ass every day or do you just have your panties in a twist today? chill out man...im pretty sure i read just fine.

Max out: 25R-Dione Spirost-4-Ene, 6-Dione

Mass Fx:25R-Diol™ [(3b,5a,6a,25R)-Spirostan-3,6-Diol]

all i am saying is that the two 25r compounds are two different things. based on both the ingredient profiles, and things ive read on this board. if it goes any further into the chemistry...well then im lost there. im just tryin to help out.