Downsizing on the supps

[adamgentile]

I'm weening myself off supplements and decided to do this just with food. I was taking glutamine, citrulline, bcaa's which I stopped 4 months ago.

I have been off the creatine for 5 days now and couldn't feel better, I didn't know it but it was really messing me up. I was holding water, deyhration, just all around wasn't making me feel good. I know creatine is harmless but I'm that 1% where it wasn't agreeing with me. I lost 4lbs going off it in 5 days. 184 to 180 in this picture.

Currently I am only taking Dymatize ISO 100 Whey, once a day after a workout. Thinking about scratching that as well, trying to go 100% natural.

[ElrondHubbard]

So...

Organic food only?

[Silencespeaks]

You don’t need any supps. Just a multi vitamin for general health (if recommended by your doctor). Other than that don’t waste your money.

[Iceman1800]

Protein powder is dried food so it's natural. Use it for convenience. My morning meal is a shake simply due to time constraints.

[Garage Rat]

You could.
Bodybuilders of the 40's and 50's didn't have supplements even turn of the century guys like Sandow didn't have anything really but good food and hard training.
You can do it and you'll probably save yourself a bit of money you just need to be eating very well.

[adamgentile]

So...

Organic food only?

If I was rich yes organic 100%. I try to do all meats organic now or grass fed.

[2nd_chance]

Supps are overrated.

[startingat56]

You could.
Bodybuilders of the 40's and 50's didn't have supplements even turn of the century guys like Sandow didn't have anything really but good food and hard training.
You can do it and you'll probably save yourself a bit of money you just need to be eating very well.

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turn of the century?

it's 2019 you know .... that phrase has to be shelved unless you specify


When I look at the cost of chicken breasts, and the cost to cook them, it's a hard sell that I would be saving money over a quality protein supp ... Never mind steak.

I eat two chicken breasts each day unless one is substituted by steak. I'm lucky if I can find steak under $10/lb


To the OP, you can eat what you wish as long as it achieves your goals

[MrCarrot]

I'm taking creatine, but really noticed no difference. The only reason I carry on taking it is because it's so cheap.

I was having whey protein once or twice a day, but I've been cutting back on that and having extra chicken or sausage instead. I've also been using it to make chocolate sludge which I'll use to coat a banana, along with peanut butter, which is more filling than a shake.

I do also eat protein pancakes and protein bars which are essentially made with protein powder, but I have these as occasional treats rather than everyday food. At the end of the day you can't beat a slab of cooked meat!

[Payton1221]

Some supplements IMO are to simply . . . wait for it . . . "supplement" areas in which your diet is lacking. Maybe your diet is more complete than mine, but I know that I fall short with Vit D, Vit C, Magnesium, and some others too, soooo I supplement for those deficiencies. I've experimented with fish oil, and I firmly believe that it helps my joints.

Getting enough protein is never an issue with me, so I've had fewer than 3 scoops of whey all year.

[LWW]

I know creatine is harmless but I'm that 1% where it wasn't agreeing with me.

Harmless can be debatable, you posted in another thread about people and bad form, creatine is still a performance booster and it does things to the muscles, which can promote muscle enhancement and neglect tendon and ligament development.

......sir, I really have no experience with that, which would provide the people who will take anything to get results the platform to just say that I don't know what the phuck I'm talking about?

......but messing around with these substances and training is very risky, see when you train hard, things happen in the body that are still unknown in science, include these substances and just about anything phucking thing can happen.

Why did a strong guy at age 50 one day take a weight a 600lb attempt a squat and tear both (not one) but phucking both of his tendons in both knees? He used a wide powerlifing style stance he weighed over 300 phucking pounds, this was a gym workout (not a contest), he was not a steroid user.

.....couple things, wide stance, overweight fatass, but strong upper body. He was definitely unbalanced, but was he taking a bunch of over the counter chit? Possibility?

.....he posts vids of him and his crew and they are all a bunch of phuck-tards who think they train hard, and they are all caught-up in all the B.S.

[Jtbny]

Harmless can be debatable, you posted in another thread about people and bad form, creatine is still a performance booster and it does things to the muscles, which can promote muscle enhancement and neglect tendon and ligament development.

......sir, I really have no experience with that, which would provide the people who will take anything to get results the platform to just say that I don't know what the phuck I'm talking about?

......but messing around with these substances and training is very risky, see when you train hard, things happen in the body that are still unknown in science, include these substances and just about anything phucking thing can happen.

Why did a strong guy at age 50 one day take a weight a 600lb attempt a squat and tear both (not one) but phucking both of his tendons in both knees? He used a wide powerlifing style stance he weighed over 300 phucking pounds, this was a gym workout (not a contest), he was not a steroid user.

.....couple things, wide stance, overweight fatass, but strong upper body. He was definitely unbalanced, but was he taking a bunch of over the counter chit? Possibility?

.....he posts vids of him and his crew and they are all a bunch of phuck-tards who think they train hard, and they are all caught-up in all the B.S.

Sir this is an Arbys...


OP, really no need for supplements if your diet is complete. Creatine is one of those things that I never feel until I'm not using it. Recovery is the biggest benefit for me. Like Payton, fish oil has a noticeable effect on my joints and living in the northeast of the US, vit d is pretty essential. Other than that - food!

[adamgentile]

Harmless can be debatable, you posted in another thread about people and bad form, creatine is still a performance booster and it does things to the muscles, which can promote muscle enhancement and neglect tendon and ligament development.

......sir, I really have no experience with that, which would provide the people who will take anything to get results the platform to just say that I don't know what the phuck I'm talking about?

......but messing around with these substances and training is very risky, see when you train hard, things happen in the body that are still unknown in science, include these substances and just about anything phucking thing can happen.

Why did a strong guy at age 50 one day take a weight a 600lb attempt a squat and tear both (not one) but phucking both of his tendons in both knees? He used a wide powerlifing style stance he weighed over 300 phucking pounds, this was a gym workout (not a contest), he was not a steroid user.

.....couple things, wide stance, overweight fatass, but strong upper body. He was definitely unbalanced, but was he taking a bunch of over the counter chit? Possibility?

.....he posts vids of him and his crew and they are all a bunch of phuck-tards who think they train hard, and they are all caught-up in all the B.S.

Wow, that's crazy. Funny, I was always scared of supplements when younger because you never do know what kind of crap you are really getting. No clue why I got into them now. I'm sure it's just a mental thing, thinking I'm older that I need them.

[blue9steel]

I dropped about half of mine recently, now I'm using just the basics: Creatine, Multi-Vitamin, Fish Oil, Vitamin D.

[Garage Rat]

Relax starting56 you know what I'm talking about 100 years or more ago.
Technically your right but i think OP gets the point.