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Old 06-04-2009, 12:36 PM   #1
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400mg/wk test enanthate for 10 wks

had tren xtreme on hand and am looking for a kickstart. i am in day 4 on both and can feel the tren starting to kick in a little bit (strength increase, etc). already started test monday.

i am taking 90mg's a day of it for 30 days. then continuing with the test for the rest

my trainer thinks i shouldn't take ANY PH's but i already started and want to finish

should i continue with XTREME TREn (19 norandrosta...)

i have letro on hand if any sides occur (progesterone gyno, etc.)

PCT- clomid 2 wks after last test shot
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:45 PM   #3
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why not man

if you've got it, take it.
i am taking it...if iexperience any sides ima stop right away though and continue with the test.

i already feel a shutdown my balls have shrunk already

might need some hcg when im done with this cycle..

PH's for the most part you should stay away from but i have it cause i bought it like a year ago so ima just go for it i think unless i hear otherwise
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You prolly wont feel anything from the Tren X for at least 2-3 weeks, its not really a great PH to "kickstart" with. SD or Epi would have been better IMO but you said you're doing it just cuz you have it left over? might as well give it a go, wont really hurt anything.
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You prolly wont feel anything from the Tren X for at least 2-3 weeks, its not really a great PH to "kickstart" with. SD or Epi would have been better IMO but you said you're doing it just cuz you have it left over? might as well give it a go, wont really hurt anything.
true

might as well

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I didn't like tren xtreme as it made the tip of my nipple's grow .
I don't need long titties .
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might need some hcg when im done with this cycle..
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I didn't like tren xtreme as it made the tip of my nipple's grow .
I don't need long titties .
did u fix the problem or what? that would suck

i got estro-x by them but letro is coming if i need it
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true, but i wont start until at least week 5 or 6 i believe
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did u fix the problem or what? that would suck

i got estro-x by them but letro is coming if i need it
No they still pointy but its still not horrible , surgery is the only real way .
I quit taking it halfway through the cycle because it was getting worst .

I do believe that if you can control estrogen you can control the growth but its like playing Russian roulette you never know when you going to get it .


Letro is good for all gyno so don't be afraid to take it if needed although I didn't get any discomfort just growth (I was taking Bromo for prolactin ) and remember only you know your own body .
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No they still pointy but its still not horrible , surgery is the only real way .
I quit taking it halfway through the cycle because it was getting worst .

I do believe that if you can control estrogen you can control the growth but its like playing Russian roulette you never know when you going to get it .


Letro is good for all gyno so don't be afraid to take it if needed although I didn't get any discomfort just growth (I was taking Bromo for prolactin ) and remember only you know your own body .
i will do the same. Weird that the bromo didn't work...
il prob start doing .5mg letro /day starting on wk 3 just in case

good advice

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No they still pointy but its still not horrible , surgery is the only real way .
I quit taking it halfway through the cycle because it was getting worst .

I do believe that if you can control estrogen you can control the growth but its like playing Russian roulette you never know when you going to get it .


Letro is good for all gyno so don't be afraid to take it if needed although I didn't get any discomfort just growth (I was taking Bromo for prolactin ) and remember only you know your own body .
I'm confused here...
You say that Letro works, yet you also claim that surgery is the only real answer. Which is it?
You took (6?)-Bromo for Prolactin? Caber and B6 (better yet, p-5-p) control prolactin specifically. 6-Bromo is just an estrogen suicide inhibitor, I believe.
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I'm confused here...
You say that Letro works, yet you also claim that surgery is the only real answer. Which is it?
You took (6?)-Bromo for Prolactin? Caber and B6 (better yet, p-5-p) control prolactin specifically. 6-Bromo is just an estrogen suicide inhibitor, I believe.
i believe he would have been talking about bromocriptine, which is a dopamine agonsit, and suppresses prolactin.
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how beneficial REALLY is taking vitamin b6 for prolactin? would it actually help if i took that during tren cycle? not looking to spend extra money i dont need to, but always want to play it safe
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why not man

if you've got it, take it.
you guys can neg and do what ever else, all you want. Has no effect on me.

Just had to point out that was one of the most stupid posts i have ever seen. So if he also had dbol, and anadrol he should take that to? I mean why not right, if you got it take it. Take as much as you can!
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Just had to point out that was one of the most stupid posts i have ever seen. So if he also had dbol, and anadrol he should take that to? I mean why not right, if you got it take it. Take as much as you can!
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I'm confused here...
You say that Letro works, yet you also claim that surgery is the only real answer. Which is it?
You took (6?)-Bromo for Prolactin? Caber and B6 (better yet, p-5-p) control prolactin specifically. 6-Bromo is just an estrogen suicide inhibitor, I believe.
The letro (or any AI) would be used before you get the symptoms but many of us don't take anything till its too late .Once you get the actual growth its not going to go a way that easily and probably never .

Bromo (not 6 bromo) is for prolactin (puffy lactating nipples) and I learned that it does not help with growth just with lactation . That is the reason I had no discomfort just growth .

Estrogen only gyno is easier to treat with Nolva , Ralox, or letro .The growth is a lot slower than the progesterone or prolactin gyno growth ,you may not even notice it till one day your like my nipple is lower than how it used to be , **** ... .

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Estrogen only gyno is easier to treat with Nolva , Ralox, or letro .The growth is a lot slower than the progesterone or prolactin gyno growth ,you may not even notice it till one day your like my nipple is lower than how it used to be , **** ... .[/QUOTE]

im going to start letro .5mg/day week two. hopefully this will help with any progesterone problems i might get too

if that doesnt help il drop tren altogether no biggie


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im going to start letro .5mg/day week two. hopefully this will help with any progesterone problems i might get too

if that doesnt help il drop tren altogether no biggie


chest today...day 4 of tren
OK broheim you're coming off as a lil "not in the know" letro can be really harsh man. Its like the strongest AI there is. I dont think it's advisable to use letro ED at that strength for very long. Certainly not as just a precautionary method. While dont you go with something a lil less mild and then if something starts acting up you can blast it with the letro? You know there are some nasty sides from letro right?!
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OK broheim you're coming off as a lil "not in the know" letro can be really harsh man. Its like the strongest AI there is. I dont think it's advisable to use letro ED at that strength for very long. Certainly not as just a precautionary method. While dont you go with something a lil less mild and then if something starts acting up you can blast it with the letro? You know there are some nasty sides from letro right?!
He needs to use it only twice or three times a week , this should work for prevention .
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Old 06-05-2009, 01:18 PM   #22
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He needs to use it only twice or three times a week , this should work for prevention .
A much weaker one is way more advisable in prevention IMHO like Aromasin or Adex..or even Nolva not AI but does pretty well.
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i believe he would have been talking about bromocriptine, which is a dopamine agonsit, and suppresses prolactin.
Thanks. I'd never heard of it.
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just picked up some b6 from the store.

im gonna run 200mg b6 ed to keep prolactin down. NO LACTATING NIPS HERE BOYS

about the letro, my buddy is taking .5mg/day and is on the same cycle as me (without tren), with equipose instead.

gained 10lbs in his first 3 wks solid and no water weight
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just picked up some b6 from the store.

im gonna run 200mg b6 ed to keep prolactin down. NO LACTATING NIPS HERE BOYS

about the letro, my buddy is taking .5mg/day and is on the same cycle as me (without tren), with equipose instead.

gained 10lbs in his first 3 wks solid and no water weight


don't use the letro as a preventative. Save it in case you get gyno. You'll more than likely not have any issues.
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don't use the letro as a preventative. Save it in case you get gyno. You'll more than likely not have any issues.
This is what i was getting at too.....Ive never heard of anyone running Letro "just in case"
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This is what i was getting at too.....Ive never heard of anyone running Letro "just in case"
I've seen it, but it's not a good idea for most people.
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