Peanut butter + Oatmeal = bad?

[patkoch]

MYTH. Don't listen to vaporizer or the other guy, yes your big and strong doesn't mean your smart. When on a consistent caloric deficit your body is not going to store fat, that being said if your cutting get all your nutrients and keep a caloric deficit.

[patkoch]

real men deadlift for the win. Roided guido model for the loss.

[Vaporize]

This is a bit like religion. If pro bodybuilders started eating 3 meals a day and experienced the same success they currently have, people would jump on the bandwagon and follow their example..... even when doing so disproves the notion that their previous (5-7 meals a day) way of doing things was ever optimal. Heh.

One quick retort before I exit this thread due to douchebaggery. If pro bodybuilders were to do this with success and that is what they recommend then that would be what worked... But the fact remains that they don't, so I don't see where the discrepancy comes from.

MYTH. Don't listen to vaporizer or the other guy, yes your big and strong doesn't mean your smart. When on a consistent caloric deficit your body is not going to store fat, that being said if your cutting get all your nutrients and keep a caloric deficit.

real men deadlift for the win. Roided guido model for the loss.

get a life maybe? jealous douche

[COZ999]

My proof is in the pudding. I use advice from the pros because that is what I'm striving to become. For majority of you guys you can get away with 3 meals or whatever, but I'm trying to do things optimally and therefore I'll take the knowledge from people who have achieved success in what I'm trying to do.
And back at you, where is your proof?

sorry to ruin the fun but I'm off to catch some sleep. I'll check this when I wake and see what lovely information has been posted.

I cant believe people are actually arguing that 3 meals is just as good as 6-8. I eat 10 when bulking bc I am a true ecto. I made my best gains like this. Your metabolism can be compared to a fire. You feed it substantial amount of woods its gonna burn hot and fast, you throw in a few pieces ever hour yea its gonna be a fire but not much of one. Now a refeed or cheat day can be employed in this analogy as well when cutting. You practically starve the fire (your metabolism/body) but once a week you spark that "fire" up huge with a large amount of food. Thus your metabolic rate gets a jumpstart. Whoever thinks this is bogus obviously is no bodybuilder and has trouble chokind down meals because they are weak. Vaporize dont even bother arguing with them, they only use science in there favor when some douche bag does one "study"

[COZ999]

My regular breakfast has been 1/2 cup Rolled Oats + 1 scoop whey + 1 tsp peanut butter + a few drops of raisins..are they good if you're trying to cut fats? I heard fats and carbs are a straight no..any reason why?

I eat this every morning minus the raisens and is a great jumpstart to a long day. Dont change it!

[COZ999]

and p.s you guys are all jealous of vaporize but wont admit it. He is everything you wish you could be and more. haha I love the hatin going on. Yea he might have a little assistance but you guys could never reach his level.


p.s.s haha I am waiting for the comeback of "O you have a crush on him" or "ohhh you wanna **** him, ***" yea good comeback guys!

[Black_Spit]

Man, the nutrition forum is the worst real section on bb.com as far as the advice given and the quality of people posting in it.

What's sad about it is that a lot of kids trying to get into bodybuilding would read this forum and think that eating 3,000 calories of junk food in one meal a day is just as good as a clean, standard bodybuilding diet. All because a half a dozen skinny teenagers are ruining it in here. And, one guy comes in who actually knows something about diet, and they start mobbing him...

[imccarthy]

I cant believe people are actually arguing that 3 meals is just as good as 6-8. I eat 10 when bulking bc I am a true ecto. I made my best gains like this. Your metabolism can be compared to a fire. You feed it substantial amount of woods its gonna burn hot and fast, you throw in a few pieces ever hour yea its gonna be a fire but not much of one. Now a refeed or cheat day can be employed in this analogy as well when cutting. You practically starve the fire (your metabolism/body) but once a week you spark that "fire" up huge with a large amount of food. Thus your metabolic rate gets a jumpstart. Whoever thinks this is bogus obviously is no bodybuilder and has trouble chokind down meals because they are weak. Vaporize dont even bother arguing with them, they only use science in there favor when some douche bag does one "study"

This wins the award for most blatantly broscientific post of all time, and is an excellent example of the fact that muscle =/= knowledge of nutrition.

[COZ999]

This wins the award for most blatantly broscientific post of all time, and is an excellent example of the fact that muscle =/= knowledge of nutrition.

Yea mccarthy bc u have any clue about BB. its funny how everybody disregards ur posts and u have no avi pic up hmm

[mneugeba]

I don't know what to think of the massive "Do as I say and not as I do" crowd on this forum.

I trust the science, but I'm having trouble mentally taking sides between those whose credentials are established in previous posts (the study quoting scientists) and those whose credentials are established in their avatars (the physique gurus).

It would be nice to have more forum contributors who combined both (like Layne Norton for example) for those truth seekers among us. We need more people to talk the talk and walk the walk. Study quoting scientists with awesome avatars.

[MattyH7688]

Yea mccarthy bc u have any clue about BB. its funny how everybody disregards ur posts and u have no avi pic up hmm

he reads scientific studies done on rats and endurance athletes(not bodybuilders) so clearly he knows everything there is about bodybuilding

[SanDantos]

Peanutbutter + Oatmeal = Magically Delicious.

[imccarthy]

Yea mccarthy bc u have any clue about BB. its funny how everybody disregards ur posts and u have no avi pic up hmm

Actually I appear to know more than you do considering the post I quoted of yours.

Muscle =/= knowledge of nutrition. You have muscle and yet your attempts at validating your nutritional protocol fail.

And please learn how to spell.

he reads scientific studies done on rats and endurance athletes(not bodybuilders) so clearly he knows everything there is about bodybuilding

Are you saying you think that 5-7 meals has a greater thermic effect than the same amount of calories in less meals?

Most of your posts are excruciatingly inflammatory and rarely productive, in all honesty why are you here?

[belairdfence99]

Some people just don't get it. If you eat enough, and lift consistently and hard, you WILL GAIN. Regardless of your knowledge of science and studies, however, that doesn't mean that your way of thinking is correct. Does it work, yes. Is it the absolute best way, of course not.

[RealMenDeadLift]

he reads scientific studies done on rats and endurance athletes(not bodybuilders) so clearly he knows everything there is about bodybuilding

you say that is if endurance athletes and bodybuilders work off completely different metabolic systems

[COZ999]

Actually I appear to know more than you do considering the post I quoted of yours.

Muscle =/= knowledge of nutrition. You have muscle and yet your attempts at validating your nutritional protocol fail.

And please learn how to spell.


Are you saying you think that 5-7 meals has a greater thermic effect than the same amount of calories in less meals?

Most of your posts are excruciatingly inflammatory and rarely productive, in all honesty why are you here?

I actually hope ur right. Then I cant stop eating so much, but until then I am gonna keep doing what "works" Ur 3 meals a day keeps u small hiding behind a computer while the rest of us make good use of our time and eat, and eat and eat. and by the way what was spelled wrong.

[MattyH7688]

Actually I appear to know more than you do considering the post I quoted of yours.

Muscle =/= knowledge of nutrition. You have muscle and yet your attempts at validating your nutritional protocol fail.

And please learn how to spell.


Are you saying you think that 5-7 meals has a greater thermic effect than the same amount of calories in less meals?

Most of your posts are excruciatingly inflammatory and rarely productive, in all honesty why are you here?

Where did I say that? Pleas show me.

Why am I here? Maybe because I bodybuild and this is bodybuilding.com... now let me ask you, why are you here?

[imccarthy]

Where did I say that? Pleas show me.

Why am I here? Maybe because I bodybuild and this is bodybuilding.com... now let me ask you, why are you here?

If you disagree with Coz, why are you defending him?

And I'm here as a bodybuilder as well, I simply disagree with the idea of having avatars.

brb having my employer look me up and find bodybuilding pictures, you see the problem there?

[MattyH7688]

you say that is if endurance athletes and bodybuilders work off completely different metabolic systems

goals are different for both.

[MattyH7688]

If you disagree with Coz, why are you defending him?

And I'm here as a bodybuilder as well, I simply disagree with the idea of having avatars.

brb having my employer look me up and find bodybuilding pictures, you see the problem there?

are you ashamed of being a bodybuilder? your employer would fire you for your bodybuilding pics?? LOL... right

you can block out your face genius.

[imccarthy]

I actually hope ur right. Then I cant stop eating so much, but until then I am gonna keep doing what "works" Ur 3 meals a day keeps u small hiding behind a computer while the rest of us make good use of our time and eat, and eat and eat. and by the way what was spelled wrong.

Too incoherent for me, sorry.

[imccarthy]

are you ashamed of being a bodybuilder? your employer would fire you for your bodybuilding pics?? LOL... right

you can block out your face genius.

To some extent I am, look at the social stigma.

[COZ999]

and in fact I did some research. Ur point proves valid........in some studies. In others its grey. I dont understand why people argue things that work. I bet ur a democrat too mccarthy. I am sure u argue everything the gov't does. You complain and try to find reasoning behind why the way things are and how they have worked for so long should be changed. Yea i agree there is a lot of "broscience" (i hate that word ) in bodybuilding and I am one for debunking great myths but the facts are unless the whole eating more raises metbolism is a huge placebo I can count on 45 hands the amount of times I have seen these prove valid. I think its easier to gorge at one sitting if your hungry and then whole 4-6meals came into play because people were eating correct portions. As we all know Americans biggest problem is portion control. So I still say macro partioning and splitting ur meals up over a period of time is better. Is there a magical number? No probably not but I can bet a 3 square meal bb doesnt look half as good as 6-7 meal bodybuilder

[MattyH7688]

To some extent I am, look at the social stigma.

find a new hobby then.

If you are ashamed of what you do, then why bother? Pretty sad.

[imccarthy]

and in fact I did some research. Ur point proves valid........in some studies. In others its grey. I dont understand why people argue things that work. I bet ur a democrat too mccarthy. I am sure u argue everything the gov't does. You complain and try to find reasoning behind why the way things are and how they have worked for so long should be changed. Yea i agree there is a lot of "broscience" (i hate that word ) in bodybuilding and I am one for debunking great myths but the facts are unless the whole eating more raises metbolism is a huge placebo I can count on 45 hands the amount of times I have seen these prove valid. I think its easier to gorge at one sitting if your hungry and then whole 4-6meals came into play because people were eating correct portions. As we all know Americans biggest problem is portion control. So I still say macro partioning and splitting ur meals up over a period of time is better. Is there a magical number? No probably not but I can bet a 3 square meal bb doesnt look half as good as 6-7 meal bodybuilder

Talk about incoherent again.

Eating more often does not have an increased TEF over eating less often, that is a fact. Portion control is another story, obviously, and is not the debate we're having here.

You then go on to claim that someone that eats more often will look better. Nice anecdote... which is absolutely meaningless.

And yes, I'm a democrat, and that has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion at all.

find a new hobby then.

If you are ashamed of what you do, then why bother? Pretty sad.

Because I enjoy it. However I am not one to strut that fact around. I'm not someone that wears tight shirts and shorts to show off, in fact I wear baggy clothes so I don't get attention from others. That's merely an example but I have no desire to post photos to have other males validate my life. No point IMO.

[COZ999]

Talk about incoherent again.

Eating more often does not have an increased TEF over eating less often, that is a fact. Portion control is another story, obviously, and is not the debate we're having here.

You then go on to claim that someone that eats more often will look better. Nice anecdote... which is absolutely meaningless.

And yes, I'm a democrat, and that has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion at all.



Because I enjoy it. However I am not one to strut that fact around. I'm not someone that wears tight shirts and shorts to show off, in fact I wear baggy clothes so I don't get attention from others. That's merely an example but I have no desire to post photos to have other males validate my life. No point IMO.

its official hes a puny homosexual democrat. Sucks!

[imccarthy]

its official hes a puny homosexual democrat. Sucks!

Wow... lol...

And reported.

[BG_1]

Yea mccarthy bc u have any clue about BB. its funny how everybody disregards ur posts and u have no avi pic up hmm

rolfewalffles were had.

Where did I say that? Pleas show me.

Why am I here? Maybe because I bodybuild and this is bodybuilding.com... now let me ask you, why are you here?

lol prob coz hes 5'4 110lbs me thinks.

[COZ999]

Wow... lol...

And reported.

what does that even mean? That a bb.com is gonna show up at my doorstep

[imccarthy]

rolfewalffles were had.

lol prob coz hes 5'4 110lbs me thinks.

5'8" 159 pounds this morning. If you want to play the weight game, I'm bigger than you, no?

And before you say "that's tiny lolz" I'm coming off a back injury ATM.