Why is it that vegans are so hated in the misc, but so are animal abusers? (serious)

[Beeewbs]

This seems like a strange dichotomy of this section. The majority of people in here will rage on anyone who abuses animals, especially dogs, but if someone says "oh hai, I'm a vegan/vegetarian," they rage on that person just as hard. It doesn't make any sense. If you hate animal abuse, then why do you guys rage so hard on people that don't want to support the abuse animals via hunting/factory farmed meat, animal testing, etc?

[drakx188]

because you should be nice to animals....until you eat them

[PatrickBateman1]

You know what other people are hated in the misc?

People that ask stupid questions.

[the_guvna]

because normal meat eaters don't abuse animals

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[Hamilton127]

because vegans are *******s, and animal abusers are *******s. i eat meat, and i do not abuse animals.

[mjfan12]

because you should be nice to animals....until you eat them

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[iamtheawesome]

Because eating meat for sustenance and abusing animals for fun are two completely different things.

[Ek2]

because you should be nice to animals....until you eat them

You know what other people are hated in the misc?

People that ask stupid questions.

I agree with both of these statements.



Eating animals is a part of life, and has always been done in order for humans to survive. But having an animal suffer un-necessarily is another story.

[J1n]

because vegans are *******s, and animal abusers are *******s. i eat meat, and i do not abuse animals.

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[robbiez88]

cuz this is a BB forum, show pics of ur great vegan physique and then u will be legible to talk all the **** u want. Most of the ***got vegan preachers on here go on about eating meat is bad and u can gain just as much muscle by eating like a vegan, blah blah blah but they never manage to prove their worth, they r all talk and no show.

[Beeewbs]

because you should be nice to animals....until you eat them

How is keeping an animal locked up in a tight pen all of it's life, stuffing it with grain (not it's natural food source), not allowing it outside or even able to turn around, pumping it full of hormones and antibiotics, hanging it by one leg, shocking it, and slitting it's throat while still able to feel...being nice to them? How is taking baby cows from their mothers, causing the mother to freak out for days, and then taking those cows, stuffing them in a wooden crate where they can't move, and keeping them on a low iron diet until they are killed after a miserably short life being nice?

[shoobey]

What if you are pro animal abuse but anti veggie like I am?

[Beeewbs]

because vegans are *******s, and animal abusers are *******s. i eat meat, and i do not abuse animals.

Where do you get your meat? If it's factory farmed, the animal is abused it's entire life. Do you know anything about the animals you eat? How they are housed? What they are fed? What they are pumped full of? How miserable they are?

Because eating meat for sustenance and abusing animals for fun are two completely different things.

How are they different? You don't need to do either.

I agree with both of these statements.



Eating animals is a part of life, and has always been done in order for humans to survive. But having an animal suffer un-necessarily is another story.

Eating animals is not necessary. Plenty of people live perfectly healthy lives without eating animals or animal products.

[Ek2]

How is keeping an animal locked up in a tight pen all of it's life, stuffing it with grain (not it's natural food source), not allowing it outside or even able to turn around, pumping it full of hormones and antibiotics, hanging it by one leg, shocking it, and slitting it's throat while still able to feel...being nice to them? How is taking baby cows from their mothers, causing the mother to freak out for days, and then taking those cows, stuffing them in a wooden crate where they can't move, and keeping them on a low iron diet until they are killed after a miserably short life being nice?

This is about eating meat, not the ethical treatment of the animals set to be slaughtered.

I'm sure no meat eater is happy with the conditions of the animals they will eat. Some take measures to prevent this from happening to their meat, some don't. My family buys kosher meat from a family friend in bulk, so none of the meat I eat is slaughtered inhumanely. There is a difference between that, and choosing to be a vegan. If refusing to eat the meat is your way of noting displeasure, that's fine. But it is comparable to voicing an opinion behind a desk instead of taking action.

Eating animals is not necessary. Plenty of people live perfectly healthy lives without eating animals or animal products.

I'm sure people suffer in cultivating your vegetables and your soy protein ups your estrogen making you more of a woman.

[robbiez88]

How is keeping an animal locked up in a tight pen all of it's life, stuffing it with grain (not it's natural food source), not allowing it outside or even able to turn around, pumping it full of hormones and antibiotics, hanging it by one leg, shocking it, and slitting it's throat while still able to feel...being nice to them? How is taking baby cows from their mothers, causing the mother to freak out for days, and then taking those cows, stuffing them in a wooden crate where they can't move, and keeping them on a low iron diet until they are killed after a miserably short life being nice?

cuz if we dont they will overbreed and there will be 100 of them outside ur house farting and ****ting everywhere, do u really want that? Besides they taste pretty nom nom on the BBQ.

[PatrickBateman1]

How is keeping an animal locked up in a tight pen all of it's life, stuffing it with grain (not it's natural food source), not allowing it outside or even able to turn around, pumping it full of hormones and antibiotics, hanging it by one leg, shocking it, and slitting it's throat while still able to feel...being nice to them? How is taking baby cows from their mothers, causing the mother to freak out for days, and then taking those cows, stuffing them in a wooden crate where they can't move, and keeping them on a low iron diet until they are killed after a miserably short life being nice?

Hey.


Shutup.

[frgpnce]

this seems like a strange dichotomy of this section. The majority of people in here will rage on anyone who abuses animals, especially dogs, but if someone says "oh hai, i'm a vegan/vegetarian," they rage on that person just as hard. It doesn't make any sense. If you hate animal abuse, then why do you guys rage so hard on people that don't want to support the abuse animals via hunting/factory farmed meat, animal testing, etc?

because dogs arn't cows

[Justin23454]

Where do you get your meat? If it's factory farmed, the animal is abused it's entire life. Do you know anything about the animals you eat? How they are housed? What they are fed? What they are pumped full of? How miserable they are?






How are they different? You don't need to do either.





Eating animals is not necessary. Plenty of people live perfectly healthy lives without eating animals or animal products.

Lol how are they diff? Your stupid. If you get pleasure from watching an animal suffer, then your ****ing sick. If you eat it and dont make it suffer for fun or get pleasure from watching it suffer, then your just eating it for the food, cave me did it, deal with it bitch. oh and there is a big diff. Idiot.

[JuicintheJuice]

basically, you just have to be nice to all the animals that you don't eat. Sad but true.

[robbiez88]

Eating animals is not necessary. Plenty of people live perfectly healthy lives without eating animals or animal products.

Plants are also living and breathing are they not? Photosynthesis any1.


ur logic fails. Thats like saying u will rather that white people live and black ppl die.


EVERY1 SHOULD DIE!

[Beeewbs]

cuz this is a BB forum, show pics of ur great vegan physique and then u will be legible to talk all the **** u want. Most of the ***got vegan preachers on here go on about eating meat is bad and u can gain just as much muscle by eating like a vegan, blah blah blah but they never manage to prove their worth, they r all talk and no show.

There is already another thread on here with pictures of muscular vegan bodybuilders, as well as a list of pro athletes, world champions, gold medalists, etc who are vegan. I just recently cut meat entirely out of my diet, so it would be pointless for me personally to post a pic, but it's unnecessary, given the information provided in the other thread.

[Mr Bounce]

When people say they hate animal abuse, they mean they hate watching videos of animal abuse. They don't actually hate animal abuse, or the idea that it occurs, otherwise factory farming would be a thing of the past-the middle class and above would have marched together to end it, and we'd all pay a little more for grass fed organic beef.


We hate evil that's in our faces. Nothing more.

This is 100% correct. I find it difficult to reconcile my love of meat with the organised abuse of these domesticated animals, but at the end of the day I'm still going to tuck into my juicy steak or delicious chicken sammich.

[Justin23454]

There is already another thread on here with pictures of muscular vegan bodybuilders, as well as a list of pro athletes, world champions, gold medalists, etc who are vegan. I just recently cut meat entirely out of my diet, so it would be pointless for me personally to post a pic, but it's unnecessary, given the information provided in the other thread.

Ya you just cut meat, and your 27 so you have been eating all this meat for 27 years, stfu. You like a "born again vegan" or something?

[Ek2]

There is already another thread on here with pictures of muscular vegan bodybuilders, as well as a list of pro athletes, world champions, gold medalists, etc who are vegan. I just recently cut meat entirely out of my diet, so it would be pointless for me personally to post a pic, but it's unnecessary, given the information provided in the other thread.

Your choice to be a vegan is a delusion. You not eating meat will not change the ethical practices of the meat industry, no matter what. EVERYBODY has a personal choice to eat or not to eat meat.

No one person has ever made a difference ALONE. Influential figures have brought about change and convinced the masses, but never can it be done alone.

Read your own sig.

[CementPizza]

Vegans are self righteous self absorbed moralizing douchebags.
Animals eat each other. We are animals. We are omnivores.

We are no less humane to animals than they are to each other.


People who intentionally torture animals for pleasure are evil and messed up.


Vegas are evil and messed up too and negged.

[robbiez88]

There is already another thread on here with pictures of muscular vegan bodybuilders, as well as a list of pro athletes, world champions, gold medalists, etc who are vegan. I just recently cut meat entirely out of my diet, so it would be pointless for me personally to post a pic, but it's unnecessary, given the information provided in the other thread.

Stop bragging then. U have been on a vegan diet for wut....2 days? Start bragging when after a few years ur still making gains.

[Deutsch]

Plants are also living and breathing are they not? Photosynthesis any1.


ur logic fails. Thats like saying u will rather that white people live and black ppl die.


EVERY1 SHOULD DIE!

[Redtodayx]

There is already another thread on here with pictures of muscular vegan bodybuilders, as well as a list of pro athletes, world champions, gold medalists, etc who are vegan. I just recently cut meat entirely out of my diet, so it would be pointless for me personally to post a pic, but it's unnecessary, given the information provided in the other thread.

hey good for you man, but you know what I don't like? *******s that shove vegetarianism down your throat

don't be that *******

[blancmange]

people on here rage about anything because they are hankerchief-sniffling Dynasty-watching drama-queen pussies

[CementPizza]

you're comparing your moral responsibility with that of a fu cking cow or lion because "we're all animals?"


wat

I have no moral responsibility.

No more than any other animal. I am part of nature and so are you.

Either we are or we are not. Either we are part of earth and the eco system or we are not.

If we are not... we are some how superior and have no moral responsiblity. The other creatures are subject to us.


If we are, we have no moral responsiblity either... because we are equal to them.