Is there a decent bodybuilding book??

[H89K]

Ok I am a litle new to the bodybuilding world.. i did before some other sports(box one year) and went to the gym for about 3 munth and than quit. Now i am going to the gym (2 month) without a clear program( i am changing them a lot) ...
I actualy wanted to know the best way to get the most of bodybuilding , and i am really motivated about this..

I read about 2 -3 book mentioning here No_Nonsense_Muscle_Building(even i am not skinny) and New rule of Lifting by Lou Schuler and Alwyn Cosgrove ...
But some of the books end up contradicting each other and i get really messy in the end.


I actualy liked the last one( New rules of lifting ) ... but it doesnt convince me it introduces "supersets with full rest" never seen before around ore at least aren't used to much...
Anyway i liked it because it has programs to meat specific goals like gaining muscle ore lossing fat ,alsow it includes periodisation and its writen in an understandable way...But does it work???Did someone try this?

I actualy wanted to know if someone can suggest me a book that has workout planing over the year,by this i mean has some program for fat loss(wich is my goal for now) strenth training and of corse mass training.I need it to have costumasable programs for specific needs( like the new rules of lifting has),including some periodisation ..in less word somthing that can be consulted over a longer period of time.So i can build my oun program in the end...
AND MOST IMPORTANT SOMETHING THAT IS PROVEN THAT WORKS and is build for natural bodybuilders!!!

So got any good option ??

[ChAoSandPAIN]

I cannot recommend Warren Wiley's Better than Steroids more highly as a nutrition/training book. Additionally, Staley and Poliquin are both reputable authors, and I like Charles Waterbury's programs quite a bit.

[ChAoSandPAIN]

Dinosaur Training is perhaps the best training manual out there, however.

[dopamine72]

Mark Rippetoe's Starting Strength

[H89K]

Originally Posted by ChAoSandPAIN

Dinosaur Training is perhaps the best training manual out there, however.

Originally Posted by dopamine72

Mark Rippetoe's Starting Strength

First thanks for replaying to my post...But ...
..Well these are mostly for strength training right??.. witch is not clearly my first goal... My goal in the enad is just to have a beaudiful body.. well i think it should hava at some fase of the training strength but not to focus only on it..
So i need something writen in a understandable way that covers a long program and contains all types of trainings explayned (clearly not in to much details ..because then i wouldnt understand a **** )
Something more like a manual to create your costum program at the and ...
Did anyone read New rules of lifting?? What do u think.??.Is there something like this better ??

[H89K]

Originally Posted by ChAoSandPAIN

I cannot recommend Warren Wiley's Better than Steroids more highly as a nutrition/training book. Additionally, Staley and Poliquin are both reputable authors, and I like Charles Waterbury's programs quite a bit.

Well i actualy am looking at poliquin principles .. its a nice and well writen book thanks for the advice ...

[pFuzzz]

"Dinosaur Training" is the best training book out there...but if it isn't your cup of tea, I've thumbed through the "New Rules of Lifting" and it seems pretty solid. I'd also get ahold of Waterbury's "Huge in a Hurry."

[grim83]

try nate greens built for show or ll cool j's platinum workouts, both are pretty solid and have the phazes and all

[H89K]

thanks ...gotta take a look at them

[asto_86]

gotta support the HIT!! lol

see if you can get your hands on "High Intensity Training the Mike Mentzer Way" by John Little and Mike Mentzer.
Might not be for you, but it was a really really good read IMHO. opened my eyes to strength training and nutrition.

[vegatrondon]

get Arnolds Schwarzenegger's Bodybuilding Encyclopedia

[ptwa9]

Originally Posted by H89K

by this i mean has some program for fat loss(wich is my goal for now)

Wait, wut?

Since it's summer, I suppose you can start with a recomp. But get the idea out of your head that you need to cut fat at this point.

[H89K]

I actually tried Poliquin body composition program writen in his book Poliquin principles ..REALLY LIKED IT .. I AM STICK WITH Poliquin right now not changing him lol..
Well i would like to buy German Body Comp to but no money for now ... and cant even find it on rapidshare just to take a look at its programs and to implement some..

[jgrube]

Originally Posted by H89K

I AM STICK WITH Poliquin right now

english mother****er... do you speak it?

[kitarpyar]

Hardcore Bodybuilding: A scientific approach
by Dr Fred Hatfield (aka Dr Squat)

Lots of useful info, and you can actually start the intermediate programs if you have been working out seriously for a while (at least an year is what I would say). However, if you are a rank novice, you would be well advised to read the works of Bill Starr and Mark Rippetoes.

[H89K]

Originally Posted by jgrube

english mother****er... Do you speak it?

i speak enaught to say i f***ing gona break your neck b**ch ..i know bit**es like u making the tough guy over internet i would break ypur neck in real word so if u don't have to say somtheing usefull dont say it !!

[merkong]

I have Arnold... Good read but plenty of people bitch that its outdated... Why the hell do you need a book? Between the forums and the supersite you got everything you need...

[H89K]

Originally Posted by merkong

I have Arnold... Good read but plenty of people bitch that its outdated... Why the hell do you need a book? Between the forums and the supersite you got everything you need...

Yeah i know there is a lot on the site bu i find it really hard to come up with a nice workout because things are a litle messy there for me ..

And actually u cant trust anything u see on a forum cs there may be pll talking about things they dont know.I think a well writen book is more relaible,and gives u a better start (u have the basis) than u can look on the site and forum to discus .

[kevin128]

Originally Posted by vegatrondon

get Arnolds Schwarzenegger's Bodybuilding Encyclopedia

^^^^ this^^^^^^^ one of the best reads i ever read, i read the whole thing (minus the tanning section) in less then a week..

though i wouldn't recommend his work out programs, they seem a bit much for a beginner.

[merkong]

Originally Posted by H89K

And actually u cant trust anything u see on a forum cs there may be pll talking about things they dont know.I think a well writen book is more relaible,and gives u a better start (u have the basis) than u can look on the site and forum to discus .

Yes, you have to take all forum bs with a grain of salt butread the article section on the supersite as well as the workout database etc... So many books, how you gonna know thatthe one you buy is gonna have the schnizzle that works for your body? BB.com bro. BB.com.

[LightCrow]

For something free look up Arthur Jones' Nautilus Bulletins 1 & 2. The original HIT writings are still solid information.

http://arthurjonesexercise.com/

[Greg1975]

Originally Posted by vegatrondon

get Arnolds Schwarzenegger's Bodybuilding Encyclopedia

It's a good exercise reference book, but unless you use steroids the routines listed in there will be of little value to you.

Something like Brawn by Stuart McRobert is much more practical for naturals.

http://www.amazon.com/Brawn-Stuart-M.../dp/9963616089

[Metalhead117]

Originally Posted by dopamine72

Mark Rippetoe's Starting Strength

I'm about to start this because of how well everyone on here says it works but will I not put on that much mass while on this program??

[Oscar_Mike]

I would reccomend starting strength as it's the best primer on the major lifts out there. A second book that appears to be very good is Muscle Mag's Encyclopedia of Bodybuilding. It's a very well put together book.

Originally Posted by Metalhead117

I'm about to start this because of how well everyone on here says it works but will I not put on that much mass while on this program??

As long as you put in the work and EAT, EAT, EAT, yes. For someone your age, it's probably the best foundation you could build from. The results speak for themselves. Do it, learn from it, and reap the benefits.

[jgrube]

Originally Posted by H89K

i speak enaught to say i f***ing gona break your neck b**ch ..i know bit**es like u making the tough guy over internet i would break ypur neck in real word so if u don't have to say somtheing usefull dont say it !!

lmao!!!

[H89K]

Originally Posted by Metalhead117

I'm about to start this because of how well everyone on here says it works but will I not put on that much mass while on this program??

I have read abput it..but its focused on strength training right ??
I mean its concentrated only on strength ore it has other routine programs specialy for mass and definition(even though u can have some mass in a strengh program u cant have as much as u will gain in a mass prog).Correct me if i am wrong.
It would be nice to include some of the programs in this book for a 6 week plan i think to improve overall strength specialy when u come from a mass gain program where u couldnt encrease the weight anymore.
Now actualy i think i am a beginer even i have some muscle more than the other and went to the gym but with pauses in the meadle.Actually i would like to continue some fat burning plan for the other 6 weeks.I want to tell again i have been 3 weeks on Poliquin German composition trining that he published in his book Poliquin principles as a entry program .
As I said before i realy liked this program it was intense and its build on supersets (u have 30-45 sek betwen sets of the superset)like i circuit i guess.

Anyway for a book i heard i think people should concentrate on well known coach of the field . Also i dont think Arnolds Schwarzenegger's Bodybuilding Encyclopedia is good for me if its supports thouse long hour training.I think u should increase intensity and finish workout within the 1 - 1 1/2 hour .So i think anything that goes beyond should be escluded .

[XX400EX]

http://www.amazon.com/101-Workouts-M...5680773&sr=8-1

[grim83]

Originally Posted by H89K

I have read abput it..but its focused on strength training right ??
I mean its concentrated only on strength ore it has other routine programs specialy for mass and definition(even though u can have some mass in a strengh program u cant have as much as u will gain in a mass prog).Correct me if i am wrong.
It would be nice to include some of the programs in this book for a 6 week plan i think to improve overall strength specialy when u come from a mass gain program where u couldnt encrease the weight anymore.
Now actualy i think i am a beginer even i have some muscle more than the other and went to the gym but with pauses in the meadle.Actually i would like to continue some fat burning plan for the other 6 weeks.I want to tell again i have been 3 weeks on Poliquin German composition trining that he published in his book Poliquin principles as a entry program .
As I said before i realy liked this program it was intense and its build on supersets (u have 30-45 sek betwen sets of the superset)like i circuit i guess.

ok

1. you need to focus on strength to increase mass especially in the beginning (this doesn't mean sets of 1-3 reps, but 5 is fine for mass gains 2)
2. ss is one of the best beginner programs
3. as a beginner you shouldn't be givin to much help, seeing as you apparently havent had enough time to start understanding things.

not trying to be mean, but im just givin you my opinion.

also op, try out strength training anatomy

[H89K]

Originally Posted by grim83

ok

1. you need to focus on strength to increase mass especially in the beginning (this doesn't mean sets of 1-3 reps, but 5 is fine for mass gains 2)
2. ss is one of the best beginner programs
3. as a beginner you shouldn't be givin to much help, seeing as you apparently havent had enough time to start understanding things.

not trying to be mean, but im just givin you my opinion.

also op, try out strength training anatomy

Actualy not a beginer beginer but still didnt make more than 3 month in a row training..i am on 3-rd month i guess.
Actulay i have trained before to but not ore than 3 month(last year sumer) ..than i was a boxer for one-tow year and things like this.

Well i think it like this (and please correct me if wrong) if i do a mass program in witch i can increase weight evry time i go to gym that means i dont need specialy strength training(even though strength is also increased in a mass program).well i remember when i last did bech presses last year weight was 85 kg 8 reps(staing more than 2 hour at gym).Now when i last trained this year i could do only 80 kg 8 reps("than i finished mass program because was getting fat and realized that first i need to "cut"").So for now i dont really need a strength trining program .When i will go under strength i will use for shure the starting strength book .
Alsow i have a shoulder problem (did a exercie wrong) and i cant go under 5X5 even if i want cs it would be to much stress (high weight) in the shoulder.

Dont warry u are not being mean its understand where your point was.I know i shouldnt be giving to much help but ..as i am the starter of this topic i think i should give my opinon and led u then help me find the right way..
So i.e if i say i like the Poliquin principles that is REALY a good book (cs i understood a lot here more that another book that i read ) u cant tell me to read Arnolds Schwarzenegger's Bodybuilding Encyclopedia thats a book that simply isn't for me because i dont like anymore the 3 hour training.
Thank all of u for the understanding and please post your ideas about this forum topic.

[cannibal.horse]

Originally Posted by Greg1975

Something like Brawn by Stuart McRobert is much more practical for naturals.

http://www.amazon.com/Brawn-Stuart-M.../dp/9963616089

Read it today, its such a fantastic book.

You really can have great results training x2 a week.