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    Originally Posted by reyalp View Post
    random graphs and quotes about jobs

    proves nothing really

    you have a little over 10 months on this one:

    lol are you not paying attention?

    This thread is about the economy and how many people think the usa is in the process of going into a depression. he posted a graph of private sector growth. if the private sector is growing then the economy is not going into a depression. the graphs and quotes prove everything, what else are you supposed to use in an internet debate?
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    Originally Posted by reyalp View Post
    random graphs and quotes about jobs

    proves nothing really

    you have a little over 10 months on this one:
    lol


    Graphs, charts, and figures are only valid here if they depict pessimistic scenarios. Anything else, the R/P ignores them.


    The economy loses 1 job - there is 100 threads on it. The economy gains jobs consistently (in the private sector), and there are no threads on it.
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    Originally Posted by res.ume View Post
    if the private sector is growing then the economy is not going into a depression. the graphs and quotes prove everything, what else are you supposed to use in an internet debate?
    there are more indicators than just private job growth. private jobs grew during the great depression as well July 37 -> July 38 being a great example. Don't you pay attention?

    Originally Posted by NorthernRaZ View Post
    lol

    Graphs, charts, and figures are only valid here if they depict pessimistic scenarios. Anything else, the R/P ignores them.

    The economy loses 1 job - there is 100 threads on it. The economy gains jobs consistently (in the private sector), and there are no threads on it.
    Disregard post you're quoting
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    Originally Posted by reyalp View Post
    there are more indicators than just private job growth. private jobs grew during the great depression as well July 37 -> July 38 being a great example. Don't you pay attention?

    but private job growth is at least 1 indicator, and a very strong one that that, that we are not currently headed into a depression.
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    The fact that the economy and the private sector are still growing despite the bears officially declaring that the stimulus effect ended months ago, is proof that we arent in a depression.

    only a retard would think that we were.
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    Rand Paul will tip us down the slope.

    Next May, the Fed Gov't hits the debt ceiling. In the past (since 1962) its always been extended. Rand Paul will fillibuster this vote.

    The moment this happens, the Fed Gov't stops paying interest on t-bills and bonds. That's it; lights out. The stampede out of bonds and stocks will be epic.

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    Originally Posted by res.ume View Post
    but private job growth is at least 1 indicator, and a very strong one that that, that we are not currently headed into a depression.
    and it was strong in 37
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    Originally Posted by NorthernRaZ View Post
    Since when are CPAs good economists? It's a completely different financial perspective. They deal with the past.

    Are we to ask grocery clerks their opinions now?
    since when did i say that my cpa's gave their economic point of view?

    it was my point of view based on the current credit situation, foreclosures, and all of the business's i see going under to this day/common sense
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    Originally Posted by Morbid_Mind View Post

    Up.
    He's talking about Credit Card delinquencies. They are going down you idiot.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/UPDATE...tml?x=0&.v=167

    Same for pretty much all banks. Read the news before making sh*t up.
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    Rand Paul will tip us down the slope.

    Next May, the Fed Gov't hits the debt ceiling. In the past (since 1962) its always been extended. Rand Paul will fillibuster this vote.

    The moment this happens, the Fed Gov't stops paying interest on t-bills and bonds. That's it; lights out. The stampede out of bonds and stocks will be epic.

    I predict the Great Crash of 2011 for May 2011. That will be the end of the Republic.
    no, he wont. someone with a brain and an econ degree will explain to him why he cant, and we'll all move on
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    no, he wont. someone with a brain and an econ degree will explain to him why he cant, and we'll all move on
    He is not a normal politician. He won't make deals and he won't compromise his principles.

    It is quite likely that he will, through fillibuster, end this madness once and for all.
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    Really? I have to go first AGAIN?!?!

    Okay I will but, funnily enough I am about to take a bike ride over to the auditorium here at my school to see and hear Thomas Woods speak.

    After that I have FASB Codification Research to do.

    When I get the time though, I'll make it special for you. We can have our own thread.

    Keep a look out:

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    He is not a normal politician. He won't make deals and he won't compromise his principles.

    It is quite likely that he will, through fillibuster, end this madness once and for all.
    A politician is a politician... That's the only thing they know.


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    Originally Posted by MistaO View Post
    Really? I have to go first AGAIN?!?!

    Okay I will but, funnily enough I am about to take a bike ride over to the auditorium here at my school to see and hear Thomas Woods speak.

    After that I have FASB Codification Research to do.

    When I get the time though, I'll make it special for you. We can have our own thread.

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    Is the great depression here?



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    Originally Posted by NorthernRaZ View Post
    BUMP


    Is the great depression here?



    MistaO - I'm still waiting on a response. It is amazing how everyone ran away when they saw my 01-13-2011 post. Come on, boys, debate with me.
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    Rand Paul will tip us down the slope.

    Next May, the Fed Gov't hits the debt ceiling. In the past (since 1962) its always been extended. Rand Paul will fillibuster this vote.

    The moment this happens, the Fed Gov't stops paying interest on t-bills and bonds. That's it; lights out. The stampede out of bonds and stocks will be epic.

    I predict the Great Crash of 2011 for May 2011. That will be the end of the Republic.
    So Rand Paul, not Obama, will destroy America?

    I thought Obama wanted to destroy America and that was bad. Now Rand Paul wants to destroy America and it is good?
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    Originally Posted by NorthernRaZ View Post
    Keep trying, boys! But face it, you're wrong!

    This is PRIVATE SECTOR only.

    Is it driven by lower-paying jobs? Also, I read that for unemployment, those who don't ask for unemployment benefits aren't counted, etc., such that actual unemployment is much higher. Perhaps sites like Shadow Stats can help.
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    Depends on a lot of things. The variable that weighs most, IMO is oil prices.
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    Originally Posted by Streetbull View Post
    Rand Paul will tip us down the slope.

    Next May, the Fed Gov't hits the debt ceiling. In the past (since 1962) its always been extended. Rand Paul will fillibuster this vote.

    The moment this happens, the Fed Gov't stops paying interest on t-bills and bonds. That's it; lights out. The stampede out of bonds and stocks will be epic.

    I predict the Great Crash of 2011 for May 2011. That will be the end of the Republic.
    Hey guise...checking in...has the republic ended yet? Wanna know if its safe to come out of my bunker.
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    Originally Posted by Streetbull View Post
    Rand Paul will tip us down the slope.

    Next May, the Fed Gov't hits the debt ceiling. In the past (since 1962) its always been extended. Rand Paul will fillibuster this vote.

    The moment this happens, the Fed Gov't stops paying interest on t-bills and bonds. That's it; lights out. The stampede out of bonds and stocks will be epic.

    I predict the Great Crash of 2011 for May 2011. That will be the end of the Republic.
    Guys...Im posting from my bunker. Has the great crash ended yet? kthxbye.
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    Guys...Im posting from my bunker. Has the great crash ended yet? kthxbye.
    Recovering from illness crew
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    OP,

    Elections are coming. Obama will throw everything including the kitchen sink to inflate the economy to make it look good. All this "growth" is temporary once again.

    The hated "doomsdayers" were actually correct predicting the housing bubble and other problems, it is the government shills and main stream that failed to see it coming. (Actually they didn't, they knew, and did it on purpose to rob you, but that's another story)

    If you want to know the truth about economy, go food shopping or put gas in your car. Compare to last year, compare to 5 years ago, compare to 10 years ago. Then check out gap between rich and poor growing... You're getting robbed blind, and you don't even know it.
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    Originally Posted by markymark69 View Post
    Guys...Im posting from my bunker. Has the great crash ended yet? kthxbye.
    Not really sure bro, I'm posting from FEMA camp 101. They don't let us get much news of the outside world.
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