If he brings this package which is about 95-100% for him, I believe he can win an Olympia, whether it be this year, which may not be as likely or 2010, but I do not agree with you guys who count victor out. I think his main problem at the Arnold was his conditioning, he looked a little soft but his leg didn't seem to be a factor.
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05-31-2009, 07:07 PM #1Team Heath 2011
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If victor brings this package... (Pics)
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05-31-2009, 07:12 PM #2intensitybuildsimmensity
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agreed. but IMO he wont take it away this year, and next year heath is just going to be OUT OF CONTRROOOLL.
if he brings that package he will very well be a good contestant though, no doubt."If the fibres aren't sore, break them down some more"
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05-31-2009, 07:13 PM #3Dillet
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idk man, idk
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05-31-2009, 07:24 PM #4flex Magazine June 2008
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Vic missed his window unless he brings MORE conditioning/better color, and increase his leg size considerably.
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05-31-2009, 07:35 PM #5may the best man win
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05-31-2009, 07:50 PM #6Registered User
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+1 I dont think he can make the improvements he would need to have a shot based on what I saw from the arnold.Originally Posted by spirit3530
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05-31-2009, 07:56 PM #7Team Heath 2011
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its tough to jump right back in after a year & 1/2 off though and peak. so i wouldnt be too surprised if he peaks in september.Originally Posted by BatmanDeadlifts
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05-31-2009, 07:58 PM #8Registered User
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I want to see Jay take the olympia again.
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05-31-2009, 08:04 PM #9flex Magazine June 2008
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we'll seeOriginally Posted by BatmanDeadlifts
His legs weren't that great to begin with.Originally Posted by Supercows
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05-31-2009, 08:38 PM #10Presently bulking
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I can't say I see what all the fuss is about Victor. I don't think he's going to do any damage on the Olympia stage. I could definitely be wrong if he shows up with some nasty wheels.
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05-31-2009, 09:07 PM #11Registered User
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Yeah no reason to fuss about a guy who placed 2nd in 2007 when many people thought he should have won.Originally Posted by ilirdino
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05-31-2009, 09:36 PM #12Team Heath 2011
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If dennis wolf as not in the contest, Victor probably would have won.Originally Posted by Big Slim DaDDy
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When has Wolf ever placed ahead of Victor?Originally Posted by Supercows
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05-31-2009, 10:42 PM #14I Am Teh Lolrus
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what does that even mean? How would that make Victor win? Victor placed ahead of Wolf in that show.Originally Posted by Supercows
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05-31-2009, 11:26 PM #15Team Heath 2011
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The difference between jay winning and victor winning was very little. So that means 2 judges could have had wolf ahead of victor, if those judges who had wolf winning the show had given the vote to victor or if wolf was not in the show those judges would have move their votes down to victor (which they had in second place), he would have won.Originally Posted by Big Slim DaDDy
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same here man, imagine if he wins againOriginally Posted by roman209
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Wolf got 5th that year. How do you know those 2 judges you speak of did not have #3 or #4 winning the show?Originally Posted by Supercows
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05-31-2009, 11:45 PM #18Team Heath 2011
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there probably were some judges that Ronnie or Dexter winning, but just because a few judges vote for them doesn't mean they win. You don't think that any of the judges could have had wolf winning?Originally Posted by Big Slim DaDDy
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05-31-2009, 11:46 PM #19Sweat Blood, Bleed Iron!
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His problem at the Arnold was Kai Greene, Even if his conditioning was 100% Kai had him beat hands down bro!Originally Posted by Supercows
If he brings this package which is about 95-100% for him, I believe he can win an Olympia, whether it be this year, which may not be as likely or 2010, but I do not agree with you guys who count victor out. I think his main problem at the Arnold was his conditioning, he looked a little soft but his leg didn't seem to be a factor.
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What placing do you predict kai will get on the next Olympia?Originally Posted by TheStreetKing
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06-01-2009, 01:24 AM #21
He's got the ugliest leg structure on stage imo
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06-01-2009, 06:45 AM #22The Freshness
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I am a fan of Vic but like mentioned above I think he might has missed his window as well. We have a bright future of BBers coming up and I think the competition is just going to keep getting more and more conditioned, more and more shredded, and some maybe even bigger. Think of who we have blowing up now... Can't forget about Kai, you know he is a top contender. Phil Heath is continuing to show improvements from last year, his last two off season vids he looked pretty incredible, then you have guys who are going to wanth it like Brandon Curry, Evan Centonpali, and others. The future isn't looking to bright for guys like Jay, Vic, Toney IMO. I think Vic should have won last year but thats just me, and I also had Toney placing higher than he did. But face the facts, they didn't so this is now and we need to move on from here.
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Yeah at 35 and being 1 of the top 5 bodybuilders in the world and coming off a serious knee surgery; he should just give up and become a lard ass truck driver( insert most sarcasm possible).
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06-01-2009, 07:58 AM #24The Freshness
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Who is saying he should give up?Originally Posted by x-trainer ben
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06-01-2009, 08:30 AM #25yo yo yo
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he very well might be able to win. Either way it may be the difference between 2nd and 4th or 5th which is a big difference.Originally Posted by Supercows
If he brings this package which is about 95-100% for him, I believe he can win an Olympia, whether it be this year, which may not be as likely or 2010, but I do not agree with you guys who count victor out. I think his main problem at the Arnold was his conditioning, he looked a little soft but his leg didn't seem to be a factor.
Not only in money either. You put yourself in 2nd at the olympia and that means you've got a legit shot at winning the arnold and the next olympia. I think if he came in so so and ended in 4th or 5th it would really hurt it.
Now that everyone is FINALLY doing the "O" teh placings this year could someone put everyone in their "place" for the next 3-5 years.
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06-01-2009, 09:04 AM #26Veni Vidi Vici
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i kinda feel victors calves are just wrong and stand for everything bodybuilding shouldnt......
we could have an entire thread for the morality of butchered calvesI wish it lasted, forever.
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06-01-2009, 10:07 AM #27OG of electro
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big pic I know but imo he looks awesome in this shot
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06-01-2009, 10:24 AM #28iFap
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dude i think the same thing. his quads really bother me, they look ****ing wierd (not his fault, just ****ty looking genetics imo)Originally Posted by Alfz
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things can ALWAYS change from 1st judging to 2nd , thats all im saying. KAI for Mr O!
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Seriously no hate but his legs look like toothpics comparing to Jay.
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