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Old 05-29-2009, 11:52 AM   #1
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Longer slin cycle

4-5iu pwo mon-wed-fri for 12 weeks, after 6 up it to 7-8iu pwo.. I've tried before for 8 weeks at 10iu and stop seeing gains from about week 6-7, starting low then increasing slightly may overcome this, any thoughts? It will be in an androgen rich enviroment.

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Old 05-29-2009, 11:59 AM   #2
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Insulin never loses its potency, I would venture a guess that week 6-7 of your previous cycle, you lost motivation and deterred a bit from the stringent training you had done previously. It happens to everyone.

at 235lbs, assuming you're fairly lean (15% or so), you should be at ~9iu/shot. The common suggestion is to take a shot in the AM upon waking up, then again immediately post workout. I prefer it in the AM, 1hr preworkout, immediately post workout.

Remember to take 750mg's HCA 1/2 hour after each injection to prevent fat accumulation. You can find Citramax in the BB.com store I'm sure.

100gms carbs / 50gms protein within 20 minutes of each injection.

What compounds are you running that you're going to be in an "androgenic state"? I prefer test prop and D'bol while slinnin.
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insulin is insulin always, and its always a powerfull hormone

according to ALR (not personal experience, so take this with a grain of salt), prolonged usage leads to decreased insulin sensitivity. so less muscle gains, more fat gain.

theres definately experienced people in here, and youre better of taking experience-based advise, but the above may be something to think abt.

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insulin is insulin always, and its always a powerfull hormone

according to ALR (not personal experience, so take this with a grain of salt), prolonged usage leads to decreased insulin sensitivity. so less muscle gains, more fat gain.

theres definately experienced people in here, and youre better of taking experience-based advise, but the above may be something to think abt.

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I beleive ALR meant prolonged usage as several months of use.
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actually, ALR is all about short protocols, even with AAS

he advocates 4 week cycles

if i remember correctly, he advised the same on insulin
actually, he advised to always use short acting, and he always stacked it with GH and T3 (AAS optional).

ive also read a really crazy protocol with just Slin and DNP in his books
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actually, ALR is all about short protocols, even with AAS

he advocates 4 week cycles

if i remember correctly, he advised the same on insulin
actually, he advised to always use short acting, and he always stacked it with GH and T3 (AAS optional).

ive also read a really crazy protocol with just Slin and DNP in his books

Yeah, the article he wrote about DNP/Slin use is what got me so hyped up on it a while back.

I strongly disagree with 4 weeks of slin use decreasing sensitivity. In fact, I only start to notice the affects after my 3rd week and see strong results beyond 16 weeks of continuous use.
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